Bus Eireann

Specialun · 27-02-2017 07:27PM #1

Looks like its about to get interesting

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0227/855768-bus-eireann/

Jack the Stripper · 27-02-2017 07:35PM

Will I get the popcorn op?

weldoninhio · 27-02-2017 09:15PM

It's losing millions. Needs to be overhauled. Going on strike isn't going to help.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 27-02-2017 10:05PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again public service workers should not be allowed to strike.They provide key services that people need and we're all paying taxes for them so there is no way in hell they should be closed because of an industrial dispute.They want to picket on their time off absolutely but services should not be shut down.

Coillte_Bhoy · 27-02-2017 10:17PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again public service workers should not be allowed to strike.They provide key services that people need and we're all paying taxes for them so there is no way in hell they should be closed because of an industrial dispute.They want to picket on their time off absolutely but services should not be shut down.

Picket on their time off? wtf does that even mean, picket who exactly?

Dirty Dingus McGee · 27-02-2017 10:20PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Picket on their time off? wtf does that even mean, picket who exactly?

They want to stand around with placards and protest outside their place of work (i.e bus depot) they should do it on their time off.

ClovenHoof · 27-02-2017 10:22PM

Disgusting CIE unions expecting the PAYE worker to pamper and indulge them like mortal gods. They can go fook right off.

The days of semi-state unions being the only game is town is over. We are talking about a company that until it was forced into doing it by private operators said there was no demand for bus travel between Ireland's cities after tea time...until very recently the last BE bus between Dublin and COrk was 6PM. This was to suit CIE Unions lifestyles, not public transport users.

Your Face · 27-02-2017 10:44PM

****e service.

Degag · 27-02-2017 11:30PM

Your Face wrote: »

****e service.

+1

I remember freezing with the cold waiting for buses when i was going to college. I'd say i could count on one hand the number of them that came on time. Drivers didn't give a ****e either.

ben.schlomo · 27-02-2017 11:57PM

Add in the disgraceful service issues e.g. pulling away from stops early, late leavng the depot due to having coffee, not stopping to pick up people waiting at designated stops, all issues ive been on the end of. The unions are ruining it for any of the decent drivers.

Yourself isit · 27-02-2017 11:58PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

They want to stand around with placards and protest outside their place of work (i.e bus depot) they should do it on their time off.

They will be off. They will be on strike.

Wanderer78 · 28-02-2017 12:04AM

we should just turn neoliberalism up to 11 and be done with it!

Spanish Eyes · 28-02-2017 12:11AM

So the striking workers will all keep their jobs at current rates after the strike and all will be well.

No redundancies, no worries.

Hmmm.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 28-02-2017 12:24AM

The experience on a private carrier is much better.I use Bus Eireann every day for work but the few times I've had to use a private bus company it's been a much better experience.

1 thing that Bus Eireann Bus Drivers cannot seem to learn is that no-one wants to listen to their radio.99% of People when on the bus want to either sleep,read or listen to their own music not be forced to have to listen to the bus drivers choice of radio, how the hell do they not have the cop on to realise this and just have the radio on in their own area of the bus so that no-one else has to hear it.It happens constantly in my experience and it's just a sign of not giving a **** about the customer.

jester77 · 28-02-2017 12:27AM

They don't seem to be the brightest bunch of lads

misstearheus · 28-02-2017 02:05AM

Stand anywhere ya like, luggage doors are not operating. Stand anywhere ya like, luggage doors are not operating.

eeguy · 28-02-2017 02:13AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

we should just turn neoliberalism up to 11 and be done with it!

That's laughable. Sinn Fein TD Inelda Muster (who's election slogan was "Vote for me because I'm a woman) said on the radio they're being paid a "meagre" wage of €634 a week. Yep. Nearly 50k a year for driving up and down a motorway is meagre. F*ck sake.

Yourself isit · 28-02-2017 02:21AM

eeguy wrote: »

That's laughable. Sinn Fein TD Inelda Muster (who's election slogan was "Vote for me because I'm a woman) said on the radio they're being paid a "meagre" wage of €634 a week. Yep. Nearly 50k a year for driving up and down a motorway is meagre. F*ck sake.

It's nowhere near 50k a year. I mean that would obviously mean slightly less than 1k a week

weekday · 28-02-2017 02:21AM

stand clear bus doors operating

eeguy · 28-02-2017 02:28AM

Yourself isit wrote: »

It's nowhere near 50k a year. I mean that would obviously mean slightly less than 1k a week

After tax?

The quote was something like "a meagre income of €634 per week", which I took to be after tax.

634 Before tax would be 33k (rounding up), and they're on much more than that.

PARlance · 28-02-2017 02:33AM

eeguy wrote: »

After tax?

The quote was something like "a meagre income of €634 per week", which I took to be after tax.

634 Before tax would be 33k (rounding up), and they're on much more than that.

And €634 weekly take home would be approx €45,000 salary.

eeguy · 28-02-2017 02:37AM

PARlance wrote: »

And €634 weekly take home would be approx €45,000 salary.

My point is that I wouldn't use the word "meagre" to describe a job that's 10k above the average industrial wage.

PARlance · 28-02-2017 02:48AM

eeguy wrote: »

My point is that I wouldn't use the word "meagre" to describe a job that's 10k above the average industrial wage.

Nothing meagre about it. I was just giving an accurate figure. It's not far off the 50k mentioned.

Mr.Micro · 28-02-2017 03:01AM

Bus Eireann is in financial trouble. So the drivers decide to go on strike to hasten the financial demise of the company and lose their jobs. Am I missing something here? That is our Irish logic.

abdulabduler · 28-02-2017 03:12AM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Bus Eireann is in financial trouble. So the drivers decide to go on strike to hasten the financial demise of the company and lose their jobs. Am I missing something here? That is our Irish logic.

They will not lose their jobs, somebody else will take over and will be forced to keep the drivers under TUPE laws, which is a win for the drivers.

Victor · 28-02-2017 04:54AM

abdulabduler wrote: »

They will not lose their jobs, somebody else will take over and will be forced to keep the drivers under TUPE laws, which is a win for the drivers.

TUPE only applies in restricted circumstances.

force eleven · 28-02-2017 06:14AM

Government will stump up the money to keep it going and the unions will compromise on cuts. Sure as night follows day. There will be a long costly strike before that though. The ritual never changes.

ClovenHoof · 28-02-2017 02:24PM

force eleven wrote: »

Government will stump up the money to keep it going and the unions will compromise on cuts. Sure as night follows day. There will be a long costly strike before that though. The ritual never changes.

Things are different now. We actually have hundreds of thousands of business and commercial daily public transport commuters in Ireland now thanks to Luas and private bus operators winning them over. The days of CIE unions having a few grannies and priests as customers/bargaining chips is history.

The commuter holds the power now and will expect a hard line on the CIE unions or else they will punish the politicians come election time. As for the CIE unions, they are unaware of 21st century Ireland. They are perpetually living in the 1970s. Extinction looming. This will be their Waterloo.

howiya · 28-02-2017 02:37PM

ClovenHoof wrote: »

Things are different now. We actually have hundreds of thousands of business and commercial daily public transport commuters in Ireland now thanks to Luas and private bus operators winning them over. The days of CIE unions having a few grannies and priests as customers/bargaining chips is history.

The commuter holds the power now and will expect a hard line on the CIE unions or else they will punish the politicians come election time. As for the CIE unions, they are unaware of 21st century Ireland. They are perpetually living in the 1970s. Extinction looming. This will be their Waterloo.

I don't support the strike but I'd love to know what power commuters will have next Monday. My brother is dependent on BE for his commute to work. What power does he and others like him have?

As for punishing politicians, it's a merry go round between FF and FG so nothing much will change at the next election

skankkuvhima · 28-02-2017 02:56PM

I hope this serves as a reminder as to what FF would do in power

Former Transport Minister Noel Dempsey says if he was Shane Ross he'd intervene in the Bus Eireann dispute

http://www.kfmradio.com/news/28022017-1031/listen-ex-transport-minister-says-ross-should-intervene-bus-eireann-dispute

VinLieger · 28-02-2017 03:02PM

skankkuvhima wrote: »

I hope this serves as a reminder as to what FF would do in power

http://www.kfmradio.com/news/28022017-1031/listen-ex-transport-minister-says-ross-should-intervene-bus-eireann-dispute

Appease appease appease, then come out waving a peace of paper declaring "peace in our time" and just be back in the same place 2 years later

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