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Username_17 · 26-02-2017 6:14pm

What percentage was everyone getting in the acer practice tests? I know the real scores are weighted, but just so I know how I compare.

theWildCard · 26-02-2017 6:19pm

About 60% correct

InsertCoins · 26-02-2017 6:23pm

Username_17 wrote: »

What percentage was everyone getting in the acer practice tests? I know the real scores are weighted, but just so I know how I compare.

I did all of the ACER sample ones (not that it ended up helping much).

Using their marking scheme ((Sec1 x 2) + (Sec2 x 2) + Sec3) / 5) x 3
and using the number of correct answers expressed as a percentage for each section as the variables, I got scores from ranging from 180-240.

It's not really much use to use these scores. The test on the day and the marking scheme was/are completely different.

Username_17 · 26-02-2017 6:31pm

InsertCoins wrote: »

I did all of the ACER sample ones (not that it ended up helping much).

Using their marking scheme ((Sec1 x 2) + (Sec2 x 2) + Sec3) / 5) x 3
and using the number of correct answers expressed as a percentage for each section as the variables, I got scores from ranging from 180-240.

It's not really much use to use these scores. The test on the day and the marking scheme was/are completely different.

Ok, thanks. I just wanted to know how others found them. Using the same grading method I got between 210 and 240.

harich56 · 27-02-2017 4:15pm

Found Section 1 tricky at places but overall not as bad as expected. Guessed about 6/7 questions completely as I ran out of time.

Section 2 definitely contained some wordy passages with few questions which put us all under considerable time pressure, I'm sure. I personally just managed to finish it in time (Invigilator called time while I was on last question).

Section 3 overall I found very tough. A lot of patterns in the next in sequence questions were very difficult, next in sequence questions are usually my strong point. I found a lot of patterns in the pick the middle to be moving 1, then 2, then 3 then 4 spaces. If i was really stuck at a question I looked at the answers for said questions and looked to see which answers were mostly matching and then straight up guessed. I don't know how well this technique will work ha ha..

Anyone remember what they said for the Section 1 question about how many shaded boxes would be in a grid around a table with 5 people rather than 6? I'm pretty sure i went with 4/10 as picking 5/10 seemed the obvious answer and the HPAT questions never seem to be the obvious answer lol.

InsertCoins · 27-02-2017 4:24pm

harich56 wrote: »

Found Section 1 tricky at places but overall not as bad as expected. Guessed about 6/7 questions completely as I ran out of time.

Section 2 definitely contained some wordy passages with few questions which put us all under considerable time pressure, I'm sure. I personally just managed to finish it in time (Invigilator called time while I was on last question).

Section 3 overall I found very tough. A lot of patterns in the next in sequence questions were very difficult, next in sequence questions are usually my strong point. I found a lot of patterns in the pick the middle to be moving 1, then 2, then 3 then 4 spaces. If i was really stuck at a question I looked at the answers for said questions and looked to see which answers were mostly matching and then straight up guessed. I don't know how well this technique will work ha ha..

Anyone remember what they said for the Section 1 question about how many shaded boxes would be in a grid around a table with 5 people rather than 6? I'm pretty sure i went with 4/10 as picking 5/10 seemed the obvious answer and the HPAT questions never seem to be the obvious answer lol.

Pretty sure it was 5/10. With one less person, the number of boxes in the grid drops by 1/3. So 5 shaded out of a total of 10.

em0192 · 27-02-2017 5:20pm

harich56 wrote: »

Found Section 1 tricky at places but overall not as bad as expected. Guessed about 6/7 questions completely as I ran out of time.

Section 2 definitely contained some wordy passages with few questions which put us all under considerable time pressure, I'm sure. I personally just managed to finish it in time (Invigilator called time while I was on last question).

Section 3 overall I found very tough. A lot of patterns in the next in sequence questions were very difficult, next in sequence questions are usually my strong point. I found a lot of patterns in the pick the middle to be moving 1, then 2, then 3 then 4 spaces. If i was really stuck at a question I looked at the answers for said questions and looked to see which answers were mostly matching and then straight up guessed. I don't know how well this technique will work ha ha..

Anyone remember what they said for the Section 1 question about how many shaded boxes would be in a grid around a table with 5 people rather than 6? I'm pretty sure i went with 4/10 as picking 5/10 seemed the obvious answer and the HPAT questions never seem to be the obvious answer lol.

I said 4/10 because it was 6/15 boxes which works out at two fifths (2/5) which is also 4/10 ?? It made sense to me at the time ðŸ˜‚ And yeah I agree that 5/10 seemed too obvious that's why I didn't choose it

em0192 · 27-02-2017 5:21pm

InsertCoins wrote: »

Pretty sure it was 5/10. With one less person, the number of boxes in the grid drops by 1/3. So 5 shaded out of a total of 10.

If the boxes were dropping by 1/3 then wouldn't that mean the number of shaded boxes would also drop by a third ? And that would be 4/10 aswell? I don't know if any of my reasoning even makes sense lol

em0192 · 27-02-2017 5:40pm

InsertCoins wrote: »

I've attached a pretty crappy representation of it. Hope it helps and is error free.

That's actually a really good representation of it thanks !!

InsertCoins · 27-02-2017 5:43pm

em0192 wrote: »

That's actually a really good representation of it thanks !!

Cheers. I think you replied before I edited my post, but yeah don't fret. I'm sure you'll be fine. It's only one question.

em0192 · 27-02-2017 5:44pm

InsertCoins wrote: »

I've attached a pretty crappy representation of it. Hope it helps and is error free.

Anyway, I completely get that you want to know if your answer is correct but there really is no point worrying now. You'll just be putting yourself under unnecessary stress. Anyway, it sounds like that things went well for you, so I'm sure you'll do fine.

Yeah I'm going to just forget about the HPAT now because there's nothing any of us can do about it and going to try focus on the leaving cert ! Thanks for explaining it better to me though

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InsertCoins · 27-02-2017 5:47pm

em0192 wrote: »

Yeah I'm going to just forget about the HPAT now because there's nothing any of us can do about it and going to try focus on the leaving cert ! Thanks for explaining it better to me though )

No worries. Good to hear. Honestly, the Leaving isn't as bad teachers make it out to be. It's actually pretty laid back compared to exams in University. If you put in the work now, you mightn't even need a great HPAT!

CillianScott · 28-02-2017 8:44am

The way that one worked was conditional probability. If there are two events, A and B. If B has already happened, the chances of a now occurring are given by

P(A n

/ P(B)

So in this case it's given by the probability of having lived to both 50 and 60 (in the graph given as 60M, as all 60 have also been fifty) divided by all the male's who lived to 50

Username_17 · 28-02-2017 3:47pm

Izumi998 wrote: »

I agree with all of you I felt something was missing from Section I- there were way too many data interpretation questions. I always finished Section II in time or only had a few questions unread- today I probably may have missed ten or more which makes me feel disappointed in myself primarily. Section III, just as you have all said, was not too kind to us either. There were those certain types of questions which were in nearly every ACER sample paper and my Career*ervices practice papers that made no appearance today.

But then, on the other hand, they're never going to fulfil our expectations simple as. The thing with HPAT is we should've (and subconsciously probably did!) expect the unexpected. InsertCoins, I completely agree about the advantage of courses being diminished. They're trying to stop any courses from becoming too helpful. For us and future HPAT students (hopefully not us anymore, we'll be in med school, away from that!) courses have become only a sort of tool to make us more confident, there's so much they can really help with.

They truly do want to test our potential, intellect and mental capacities from the stimuli we receive on the day, not all the stuff we hope to see. On the way, they seriously test our resillience to stress! (like "the universe" in that Section II q!)

I was similar to you. I missed about 8 or 9 qs from section 2! I also missed a few from the other sections... I usually get good scores on the ones I get done but I'm not sure if I've done too few on the day.

InsertCoins · 28-02-2017 3:49pm

Username_17 wrote: »

I was similar to you. I missed about 8 or 9 qs from section 2! I also missed a few from the other sections... I usually get good scores on the ones I get done but I'm not sure if I've done too few on the day.

How did you find the other 2 sections?

Username_17 · 28-02-2017 3:52pm

InsertCoins wrote: »

How did you find the other 2 sections?

Slightly tougher than usual. But I think I did well enough

Izumi998 · 28-02-2017 11:19pm

How did you all find section 3? Am I the only one who found many questions..well, different?

nol980 · 28-02-2017 11:37pm

Izumi998 wrote: »

How did you all find section 3? Am I the only one who found many questions..well, different?

Nope:pac:

Izumi998 · 28-02-2017 11:42pm

nol980, I felt some were rather different than the ones on the ACER samples, but maybe that's just me. About 3/4 of tchem were the "usual" but some really caught me.

InsertCoins · 28-02-2017 11:47pm

Izumi998 wrote: »

nol980, I felt some were rather different than the ones on the ACER samples, but maybe that's just me. About 3/4 of tchem were the "usual" but some really caught me.

Which ones? Just curious.

nol980 · 01-03-2017 12:01am

Few examples:

There was one flower-type next in sequence question with grey petals and black petals if I remember correctly. Couldn't identify a pattern within the time so guessed by looking at the options, choosing the one with the most common similarities to the rest.

The transformations were particularly difficult IMO and I couldn't figure out within the time limit what shape coded for what change if you get what I mean. There was one in particular with hearts and other straight-sided shapes transforming boxes containing cirles and black lines. Couldn't figure out what was changing the number of black lines but 4/5 of the answer options had 2 black lines so assumed the right answer would have 2. Looked at a couple of the transformations to see what caused the change in the dot position but didn't have time to go through them all to be certain.

A good few others didn't look too difficult but I didn't have time to properly figure them out so guessed by choosing what looked like the obvious answer. I wouldn't be half surprised, however, if they were all "trick" questions, requiring further extrapolation to realise that the obvious answer was in fact, wrong.

There was a lot of uncertainty for me with this section, so I am prepared to receive both a poor and excellent score...

mbh008 · 23-06-2017 8:08pm

Hey
Does anybody know when the results are out?
I mean, at what time on Monday?
Thanks!

taro · 24-06-2017 3:55pm

mbh008 wrote: »

Hey
Does anybody know when the results are out?
I mean, at what time on Monday?
Thanks!

I did it last year and got the email saying they were out at around 5 AM

Grimnir333 · 25-06-2017 1:06am

Anyone have an idea what time the results will be out on Monday?

08-08-2017 10:27pm

Hi guys, current med student in trinity! Hope to see you guys there in October, let me know if anyone has any questions!

Hugo09 · 17-08-2017 12:53am

Hi - advice needed - I got 565 LC points - first time LC sitting - hpat score low - would you repeat LC and Hpat or just Hpat - confused !! Tks

mbh008 · 17-08-2017 10:20pm

Hugo09 wrote: »

Hi - advice needed - I got 565 LC points - first time LC sitting - hpat score low - would you repeat LC and Hpat or just Hpat - confused !! Tks

You just need to repeat the HPAT

your lc is fine. You need to get more than 550 (you for 565 So you're ok)
Every 5 points after 550 are reduced to 1 in medicine
So you got 553 then you have to add your hpat score to it to get the total

I hope I'm making sense

isabelhorgan · 01-12-2017 8:57pm

Hi,
I recently purchased a Med Entry Silver Package for €425 and have now come to the realisation that I don't want to do medicine at all. Any ideas on how I can get rid of it? Does anybody know of anyone that would want it? I have only used 5% of the online facilities and the workshop is for January 4th in CIT. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Eaglextrix · 04-12-2017 3:03pm

Whats the best way to maximize your points in section 2?
Also does anyone have any tips on how to do prepare for the day itself?

Thanks

BigMac90 · 06-01-2018 1:33pm

Is it too late to start studying for the hpat

LiteCash · 20-01-2018 6:50pm

Selling HPAT notes from the Institute as well as personal preparation notes and a copy of HPAT 2 Paractice test.

PM if you are interested.

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