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Large neck for shirt/how many suits for work?

  • 24-02-2017 10:49PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭


    Hi there,

    I am a 16" neck but the bodies are way too big in this size. 15 1/2 neck wont close but is the right size body wise. Any place that allows you to choose a custom sized chest with 15 1/2 neck? Nothing too expensive if possible.

    Also, how many suits for a new job I have? Its a 6 month placement for college. Big institution. I believe they have a "casual fridays" so really only 4 days worth of suits needed per week. Will 2 do? I have one really nice one at moment and another nice one but the waist is too small for me now.

    How casual are casual Fridays usually?

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Have you tried slim fit shirts in the right size for your neck?

    How formal is the place you're going to working in- suits may not be necessary, you might be better served by two blazers and a few pairs of wool trousers you can mix and match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    Have you tried slim fit shirts in the right size for your neck?

    How formal is the place you're going to working in- suits may not be necessary, you might be better served by two blazers and a few pairs of wool trousers you can mix and match.

    Thanks for reply. I got DKNY in kildare outlet village that are 16 inch neck and very slim fit, still a bit baggy but not too bad. I live in cork tho so bit of a PITA to go back there. Also had only the 2 diff colour shirts and I bought both of them. Would it be okay to buy same two again or a no no? Tried m n s but slimmest fit with 16 inch neck was too baggy.

    ANy idea how much alterations would cost for them? And how long?

    Very formal, suits and tie defo needed. Presume chinos and shirt would would do for casual Friday's? I have 3 pairs of the Same chinos lol. Look very similar to this, colour etc. From river island though http://eu.tommy.com/Skinny-Fit-Chinos/DM0DM00854,defaulT,pd.html?cmpid=ch:sea%7Cdp:ecom%7Cso:GOOGLE%7Ccg:PLA%7Ccp:IE+-+EN+-+Shopping+-+All+Other+Products%7Cco:eu%7Cag:All+Other+Products%7Cma:%7Bifmobile:m%7D%7Bifnotmobile:nm%7D&gclid=Cj0KEQiA0L_FBRDMmaCTw5nxm-ABEiQABn-VqU_t9bPsLMZj7mBsFA-koyQ-BkofXHhP5YTqqsY5F14aAsBQ8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds#js_main-menu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    Checked the nice suit I bought in a shop and its by Gibson London. Checked their website and it is quite reasonable. Has anyone experience with Gibson? I have only had the suit a couple of months and only worn it a handful of times.

    I am confused about my suit. The pants says 32 Regular and 38 Regular (presumably for the jacket). When I actually measured my waist it is 36". Should I order 32" off Gibson online or 36" which is my actual measurements. Totally confused by this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Ok, what's your budget, op? Because brutal honesty, you might, if it's a 6 month internship, be better going to penneys and buying a couple of suits there (the men's buyer has changed recently and the quality of the menswear is VASTLY improved) for less than €80 each and paying maybe €50 for some alterations which will make them fit you perfectly. I can't help you with the sizing on your Gibson suit.

    Depending on what exactly needs to be done with the shirts you could be looking at €10 per shirt to slim the sides- messing with sleeves will cost more. Again depending on budget, consider getting a bespoke shirt- I use a company call shirtbyhand.ie and they are fab. They come measure you at home and then you get to design your shirt online however you want it. All shirts (except certain fabrics) are €69.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    Ok, what's your budget, op? Because brutal honesty, you might, if it's a 6 month internship, be better going to penneys and buying a couple of suits there (the men's buyer has changed recently and the quality of the menswear is VASTLY improved) for less than €80 each and paying maybe €50 for some alterations which will make them fit you perfectly. I can't help you with the sizing on your Gibson suit.

    Depending on what exactly needs to be done with the shirts you could be looking at €10 per shirt to slim the sides- messing with sleeves will cost more. Again depending on budget, consider getting a bespoke shirt- I use a company call shirtbyhand.ie and they are fab. They come measure you at home and then you get to design your shirt online however you want it. All shirts (except certain fabrics) are €69.

    Thanks again for the reply. That shirt company sounds good. How long for it to be delivered do ya know? Not sure really. My dad will loan the money I need to buy a couple of suits. I was looking at that Gibson website and there is some really nice ones at a good price (circa 150 pounds).

    I really like this one and think I will get it. http://www.gibsonlondon.com/gibson-grey-with-lime-check-suit-jacket-603

    Does it look suitable for professional workplace? minus the waistcoat and hankerchief. Its 80% wool. Any opinion on this?

    I am also thinking of getting this one too, for a plainer suit.

    http://www.gibsonlondon.com/gibson-silver-grey-slim-fit-suit-jacket-509

    That way I will have 3 suits and 2 pants for the two new ones and hopefully I can get a second pair of pants for the one I currently have. This is the one I currently have (but they no longer have the pants in my size) http://www.gibsonlondon.com/gibson-french-navy-marriott-two-piece-suit-392

    Again without the waistcoat. Cheers again for the replies.

    So total for 2 jackets and 4 pants will probably be around 500 euro. I am up the walls with college at the moment so don't want to spend time going looking around town if possible, prefer shopping online so if I could get it sorted from at home it would be preferable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    They look fine to me, op.

    My advice though is if you can wait until you actually start and see what the guys there are wearing it's always better. No sense in wasting your money.

    The shirts come in about 3-4 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    They look fine to me, op.

    My advice though is if you can wait until you actually start and see what the guys there are wearing it's always better. No sense in wasting your money.

    The shirts come in about 3-4 weeks.

    Thanks again. I was thinking that but I don't wanna be the guy who wears the same suit for 2 weeks while waiting for more to come lol. I may order the first suit and a second pair of pants, and that can do me for the first week or two till I figure out the situation. I looked around online and there is some videos from the workplace.

    Older, more senior staff wore plain suits. There was an IT guy who wore what looked like a bespoke wool suit so quite fashionable. Placement starts in 3 so I may buy one shirt, get it taken up and order another couple of that website.

    I also saw TMLewin have 4 shirts for 140 and with alteration at 15 each x 4, I would be getting four for 200. Think this might be better option than waiting four weeks for delivery, although I may order one or two in the future.

    Thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I've a feeling I know what type of company you are going into, for your summer internship. I'd ditch the light grey suit and the check suit and go with a plain navy number. Or if you are getting a grey, get a darker grey than the ones you've linked.

    Try Suit Supply: Top quality suits and fabrics, very modern fits, fraction of the price you'd think you'd need to pay. I wouldn't get a suit anywhere else now.

    I just spotted this suit for only €259 on Suit Supply - very inexpensive for what you are getting: http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/suits/napoli-blue-plain/P4119.html

    Suits_Blue_Plain_Napoli_P4119_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

    TM Lewin slim fit shirts are still baggy but you could get measured while you're in there and see what they say - there might be a size / style that suits you better.

    Go for 2 plain white and 2 plain sky blue shirts.

    Get five ties to start - navy, brown, burgundy, yellow, and orange or blue. I'll leave the designs up to you but subtle and simple is best.

    Get decent black shoes and POLISH them. At least once / twice a week or when they are dirty. You could also get a pair of dark brown (not tan). Stick to traditional brogues, don't get pointy ones or cheap looking ones.

    If you are working in the type of firm I suspect you are, you'll need to really look the part. You could sneak in a plain white pocket square folded straight if you wanted, it won't be too ostentatious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    Op - with Charles Tyrwhitt you can specify the sleeve length as well as the collar size, which provides for a much better fit (I have long arms and a narrow waist, so I often have trouble finding shirts).

    You can get their shirts for €20-30 as part of the sale - http://www.ctshirts.com/eu/clearance/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    Op - with Charles Tyrwhitt you can specify the sleeve length as well as the collar size, which provides for a much better fit (I have long arms and a narrow waist, so I often have trouble finding shirts).

    You can get their shirts for €20-30 as part of the sale - http://www.ctshirts.com/eu/clearance/

    Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, most dont have the required sleeve length for the neck size i need 16" and 34". Did find two alright that might suit. Ever get extra slim fit from them?

    Do you know off the top of your head what they are like for returns and delivery time? Returns to Ireland or abroad?
    I've a feeling I know what type of company you are going into, for your summer internship. I'd ditch the light grey suit and the check suit and go with a plain navy number. Or if you are getting a grey, get a darker grey than the ones you've linked.

    Try Suit Supply: Top quality suits and fabrics, very modern fits, fraction of the price you'd think you'd need to pay. I wouldn't get a suit anywhere else now.

    I just spotted this suit for only €259 on Suit Supply - very inexpensive for what you are getting: http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/suits/napoli-blue-plain/P4119.html

    Suits_Blue_Plain_Napoli_P4119_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

    TM Lewin slim fit shirts are still baggy but you could get measured while you're in there and see what they say - there might be a size / style that suits you better.

    Go for 2 plain white and 2 plain sky blue shirts.

    Get five ties to start - navy, brown, burgundy, yellow, and orange or blue. I'll leave the designs up to you but subtle and simple is best.

    Get decent black shoes and POLISH them. At least once / twice a week or when they are dirty. You could also get a pair of dark brown (not tan). Stick to traditional brogues, don't get pointy ones or cheap looking ones.

    If you are working in the type of firm I suspect you are, you'll need to really look the part. You could sneak in a plain white pocket square folded straight if you wanted, it won't be too ostentatious.


    Hi EvilTime, thanks for the reply. Lots of information there. I have a couple questions for you if you dont mind. I broke them up and numbered them, just so its easier to read and reply. I have also edited this many times so I hope it isnt too choppy.

    Problem with getting measured in there is I wont actually be in Dublin until the day before I start work, so need to get it sorted before hand. Dont mind getting a couple of shirts cheap and getting them altered before hand. The link Tarangu gave me has some shirts for 25 quid so I think I will order them and if its a mistake its not too big a deal.

    That site looks absolutely class, with some really nice suits and cheap. Genuinely cant believe it. Free delivery and return too. It looks too good to be true. So unbeliveable I had to google to look for previous comments on boards and I saw you talking about how you are still waiting for a catch.

    Unfortunately, for me at least, there is a catch. I contacted them about sizing. They said you can't mix and match different size pants and jacket. I am beyond dissapointed :-(

    I do have the option to make a custom suit, but it is a 4 week wait and minimum 400 euro. I cant believe they cant mix and match sizes. Seems crazy. I realised when trying on old suits how much weight I have put on in last 3/4 years. Went from size 32 waist to a 36. This has really pissed me off and I hope it spurs me into losing some weight so I can buy some of these great suits in the future lol.

    However, while looking around I found 4 suits that are classed as "seperates" and allow you to choose a different size jacket and pants. Unfortunately, three of them are (IMO, would like yours) too similar to the suit I already have, which is this one http://www.gibsonlondon.com/gibson-f...piece-suit-392 Speaking of the suit I currently have. The guy in the suit shop said that this jacket isnt meant to be buttoned up when work, even when standing. He is the owner of quite a reputable suit shop in the city, been in the family business for 2+ generations. However, he said this in response to me trying to tie it and saying it is a bit tight. Everywhere I have read online has said to always button the top button when standing.

    What do you think about this? I have to say I think buttoning the top button looks ridiculous to me. Always prefer it open but it seems like a massive fashion faux pas.

    1) I have quite pale skin and red hair as a reference for whether the suits would suit me.

    Here are the four suits that I can mix and match

    http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/jackets/napoli-dark-grey-pinstripe/P1104-JD.html (Not too sure if too dark for my complexion - total price 299)

    http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/jackets/napoli-navy-pinstripe/P1105-JD.html (Prob too similar to the one I already have - total price 299)

    http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/jackets/havana-navy-plain/C1104.html?cgid=Jackets&srule=PriceAsc this one doesnt appear to offer it with the pants here but it does here http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/suits/havana-separates/C4760-S.html?cgid=Suits&srule=PriceAsc

    I linked the first link so you can zoom in on it if you wanted to, you cant with the second one - total price 379

    http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/jackets/madison-navy-plain/C4760M.html?cgid=Jackets&prefn1=fit&prefv1=Madison same as above so two links-total price 379
    http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/suits/madison-separates/C4760M-S.html?cgid=Suits&srule=PriceAsc

    IMO, it seems like only the first grey one is an option open to me. The last navy one does have a distinct looking jacket, so it would look different from my navy one, but not by too much, and for the price I could just get a custom suit from them. Wish I started this process 2 weeks ago, could have got a "custom" suit made up for an extra 100 rather than just choosing the only available option.

    2) After the internship, it will be at least a year before I finish college and need to wear multiple suits again (presuming I get a job immediately which is unlikely, may do masters etc). Reckon it would go out of fashion within the year or should I aim to get a second pair of pants? A pair of pants are 150, I could get a whole new suit for 300, or 400 if custom made. Then again, a second pair of pants gives it a much longer shelf life.

    3) How many suits do I need total? Would 2 do? 3? How often should I rotate? Change every day?

    4) Would it not be better to get more than two colour shirts? TBH, I prefer blue and white but at a recent grad thing they said have multiple different colour shirts.

    Saw this lilac one. What do you think? http://www.ctshirts.com/eu/extra-slim-fit-cutaway-collar-non-iron-herringbone-lilac-shirt/FON0678LLC.html?dwvar_FON0678LLC_sleeveLength=34&dwvar_FON0678LLC_collarSize=16

    I already have a nice blue and nice white one. One is doubled cuffed. Not a fan of them myself but my gf said they look good double cuffed. What you think about double cuffs? It seems to make the cuffs quite large IMO.

    5) I already have a nice dark brown pair of Aldo shoes I got in the US. They have leather soles and are ridiculously slippery. I was all over the place when walking through Dublin on way to the interview as it was pouring lol.

    Can I get rubber put on the soles do ya know? I know the whole thing with them is they are leather all over, including the bottom, but they arent very practical.

    It was my first time wearing them though so maybe they have to be broken in? Not sure if you would know or not.

    6) What is wrong with the check one I linked to earlier, in your opinion? Seeing as my options with suitsupply are extremly limited, I am more tempted to get it. Is it in your opinion not suitable for financial workplace?

    8) Any tips for places to buy shoes and ties? Other accessories?

    9) What do you think about the strip brace things that connect your shirt to your socks to keep your shirt in?

    Sorry for all the questions. I hope the formatting makes it easier to read and respond. Thanks again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    richy wrote: »
    Ever get extra slim fit from them?

    Do you know off the top of your head what they are like for returns and delivery time? Returns to Ireland or abroad?

    I bought a couple of extra slim fit off them - very pleased with them. Glad I got the extra-slim; I would say that the 'slim fit' wouldn't be very fitted. I'm pretty sure that I bought on a recommendation from Bargain Alerts; there is probably some info on delivery and returns if you search Boards (it's been a while since I bought, and I didn't need to make any returns).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    I bought a couple of extra slim fit off them - very pleased with them. Glad I got the extra-slim; I would say that the 'slim fit' wouldn't be very fitted. I'm pretty sure that I bought on a recommendation from Bargain Alerts; there is probably some info on delivery and returns if you search Boards (it's been a while since I bought, and I didn't need to make any returns).

    Will check it out. Cheers again.
    Mr.S wrote: »
    This sounds very stressful for any job, let alone an internship :eek: Interested to know what company this is?

    Anywho, for "cheap" decent looking suits have a look in Topman, they're off the rail suits aren't half bad and i'm 90% they include small alternations if needed?

    Casual Friday is typically business casual, so black jeans / chinos and a shirt, sometimes with a jumper over the shirt or a blazer. But then again, if the company wants expensive suits for Monday - Thursday, I don't see the point of casual Friday!? Easiest way is to ask on about casual Friday on your first day. If you have a contract, it might say it in that.

    Casual Friday in my place is literally anything but rags :D

    The site Evilman sent me looks good for suits so I will try there first. Does not necessarily have to be very cheap. 250-300 range is fine, although still probably considered cheap.

    Haha. You are right about it being stressful. I don't think they require fancy suits but I do want to look my best. Both for myself, to make a good impression, and for the company. I would rather not say who for. Apologies.

    I went for my interview on a Friday and I noticed one guy looking very sloppy. Blue jeans (all raggedy at the end), ill fitting t shirt with some writing on it. Could have been IT :-)

    What do you think about khaki green chinos? And a long sleeved shirt? I have a couple American Eagle ones and a few Tommy Hilfiger one. I have a half sleeve so want to keep it covered.

    Three shirts I like that are on "an introductory offer". What are the chances of an introductory offer appearing on my FB timeline just after I was on their website :-)

    http://www.ctshirts.com/eu/extra-slim-fit-non-iron-imperial-weave-lilac-shirt/FON0724LLC.html

    http://www.ctshirts.com/eu/extra-slim-fit-non-iron-imperial-weave-white-shirt/FON0724WHT.html

    http://www.ctshirts.com/eu/extra-slim-fit-small-herringbone-sky-shirt/FOS0112SKY.html#prefn1=fit&prefn2=season&prefv3=new%7Ccontinuity%7Cterminal&currentPageNum=4&prefv1=Extra+slim&prefv2=SS17&prefn3=status&sz=90&start=69&cgid=shirts-formal-shirts

    If i get 3 more, I will then have 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    I have the same problem op, my waist is a 32", chest 40"and neck is 17" so it's being a long time (school) since I buttoned up a shirt that the body didn't look like I was wearing a tent.
    I just tighten the knot of the tie really far up and it mostly hides the unopened button for the little while that it is needed to look formal.
    Either that or start emailing the stars of WWE and ask them where they buy shirts from!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    I have the same problem op, my waist is a 32", chest 40"and neck is 17" so it's being a long time (school) since I buttoned up a shirt that the body didn't look like I was wearing a tent.
    I just tighten the knot of the tie really far up and it mostly hides the unopened button for the little while that it is needed to look formal.
    Either that or start emailing the stars of WWE and ask them where they buy shirts from!

    Holy ****. 17" neck on a 40" chest. Shirts must be a nightmare for you. Ever get them taken in or specially made?

    I always joke with my gf that ISIS would have a hard time cutting my head off, yours would require a chainsaw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    richy wrote: »
    Holy ****. 17" neck on a 40" chest. Shirts must be a nightmare for you. Ever get them taken in or specially made?

    I always joke with my gf that ISIS would have a hard time cutting my head off, yours would require a chainsaw.

    I don't wear formal shirts too often so most other informal shirts I can get away with leaving the button open anyhow. The Paul Galvin look would not suit me!
    Never got a shirt made or taken in as I said I just do the tie up really tight to cover the top button.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    OP, I had a look through your post. I would advise that you get the Napoli navy suit - the one that you can get separates. The jacket is 199 and the trousers 100. That's a nice suit, it's not too slim cut but you'll find the material and the structure very good. I'm actually ordering a Havana model myself, haven't got one before (I have the Soho, Washington, and Madison). It looks like a more casual fitting jacket but it'll still be smart, so you could try that one out.

    I wouldn't mix and match trousers and jackets and you shouldn't get a double breasted suit - not yet anyway. While I wear them, for a summer internship they might be a bit too flashy. The idea behind a summer internship is to make a good impression so they ask you back for a real job. So bear that in mind.

    You'll need to bring the suits into a tailors then to adjust the jacket, cuffs, waist, and leg length. Tell them you only want one "break" at the foot - this'll ensure your suit trousers aren't too long. Bring your shoes with you so can see it all together.

    Shirts in the work place should only really be two colours - white or blue. You can work around that by having striped, checked, or patterned shirts, but definitely no lilac. Or black, or grey, or yellow. Occasionally you can wear a pink shirt but for now at least just stick to light blue and white. Get a spread collar rather than narrow collars, and don't start looking at collar pins or tab collars for the moment!

    With regards to your shoes, with new leather soled shoes you need to go out on to concrete and twist your feet in circles to create wear on the leather - this will give you some grip. Or, take them to any shoe place and they'll put a rubber piece on, which is no problem. Buy some black polish and brushes while you are there, if you don't already have them.

    No need for things like sock holders, tie pins, pocket watches, braces etc. You want your look to be simple, but effectively smart. Cuff links are OK, in summer you might prefer to switch to single cuffs as it'll be warmer.

    On day one you should show up in a dark navy suit (which has been altered to fit you perfectly), a crisp white shirt, a burgundy tie, and polished black shoes. That's a good start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    OP, I had a look through your post. I would advise that you get the Napoli navy suit - the one that you can get separates. The jacket is 199 and the trousers 100. That's a nice suit, it's not too slim cut but you'll find the material and the structure very good. I'm actually ordering a Havana model myself, haven't got one before (I have the Soho, Washington, and Madison). It looks like a more casual fitting jacket but it'll still be smart, so you could try that one out.

    I wouldn't mix and match trousers and jackets and you shouldn't get a double breasted suit - not yet anyway. While I wear them, for a summer internship they might be a bit too flashy. The idea behind a summer internship is to make a good impression so they ask you back for a real job. So bear that in mind.

    You'll need to bring the suits into a tailors then to adjust the jacket, cuffs, waist, and leg length. Tell them you only want one "break" at the foot - this'll ensure your suit trousers aren't too long. Bring your shoes with you so can see it all together.

    Shirts in the work place should only really be two colours - white or blue. You can work around that by having striped, checked, or patterned shirts, but definitely no lilac. Or black, or grey, or yellow. Occasionally you can wear a pink shirt but for now at least just stick to light blue and white. Get a spread collar rather than narrow collars, and don't start looking at collar pins or tab collars for the moment!

    With regards to your shoes, with new leather soled shoes you need to go out on to concrete and twist your feet in circles to create wear on the leather - this will give you some grip. Or, take them to any shoe place and they'll put a rubber piece on, which is no problem. Buy some black polish and brushes while you are there, if you don't already have them.

    No need for things like sock holders, tie pins, pocket watches, braces etc. You want your look to be simple, but effectively smart. Cuff links are OK, in summer you might prefer to switch to single cuffs as it'll be warmer.

    On day one you should show up in a dark navy suit (which has been altered to fit you perfectly), a crisp white shirt, a burgundy tie, and polished black shoes. That's a good start.

    Thanks again for the reply. When I say mix and match I mean it that you can choose different size suit pants for suit jacket. They are the pants to fit the jacket.

    Just want to confirm because you didn't say it directly, although I think you were implying it, the blue suit I have is different enough to warrant purchasing a navy one? And it is preferable to the dark grey one, which is the first of the 3 I linked.

    Black polish for brown shoes okay too?

    The sock holders were just to keep the shirt tucked in. Is that really unnecessary? I find shirts tend to come out or look terrible after a couple hours of wearing. Would it be noticeable I am wearing one?

    IS 2 suits enough (blue and dark navy) or should I be aiming for a third?

    Do you have a rough cost to get suit jacket and pants altered? I know it's hard to say because you don't know what's being altered but is it closer to 50/100/150?

    How many sizes can I get a suit pants/jacket reduced by before it looks good? Or is there no rule to live by. I reckon I am a 35 waist currently but will probably be down to a 34 soon. So I will be buying a 36 but will likely drop a size.

    If I get a size 42 jacket, can that be altered down to a 40? That way I could get the correct sized pants but a larger jacket and get it altered.

    Thanks for tips around shirts etc. Certainly makes it easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Eh don't use black polish on brown shoes! Brown polish for brown shoes. Black for black. Or you can get a neutral colour. Don't get anything in a supermarket - get your polish from the shoe place. Or order online, I'd recommend Saphir: https://www.saphirmedailledorshop.co.uk/

    For trousers, if you are sure you're going to lose weight, get a 34 and let them out a little. Then you can let them back in when you lose weight. If you get the 36 and get them taken in a size, they won't look so good.

    Two suits for now, get your style right. Then get the third if you want to. But two for a summer internship should be good enough, considering your Fridays are going to be casual.

    Your shirt will become untucked as the day goes on, but nothing you can do about that except tuck it back in as you go along. Best thing to do when you put on your shirt and trousers is to lift both your arms to the side, so the shirt lifts up but then settles back. Usually longer shirts will become untucked easier. But saying that a too-short shirt will never stay tucked into your trousers. If you have a belt and your trousers are sitting just above your hip bone you'll be OK.

    Black belt with black shoes. Brown belt with brown shoes. And personally I wouldn't wear a white shirt with brown shoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    And personally I wouldn't wear a white shirt with brown shoes.

    So would you just not wear brown shoes with a suit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭hurleronditch


    And personally I wouldn't wear a white shirt with brown shoes.

    So would you just not wear brown shoes with a suit?

    Shirt colour and shoe colour are unrelated for me, once you're sticking with white or light blue. 'Ale sure your shirts are double cuff and pocketless if you want to look sharp.

    Always match belt to shoes, black and black, brown and brown. Tan shoes are a no, dark brown are fine and look sharp. Pocket squares may look over the top in some banks and accountants, they're more for wedding or New York real estate agents.

    Most of all, the care and attention your showing about your look for a 6 month placement will stand you well, and you will look far better than most lads in there who are settled in and in the same Remus uomo rag bought in the January sales 6 years ago, with a lilac shirt from a dunes two pack


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    So would you just not wear brown shoes with a suit?

    I would, I'd just wear them with a blue shirt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭richy


    Shirt colour and shoe colour are unrelated for me, once you're sticking with white or light blue. 'Ale sure your shirts are double cuff and pocketless if you want to look sharp.

    Always match belt to shoes, black and black, brown and brown. Tan shoes are a no, dark brown are fine and look sharp. Pocket squares may look over the top in some banks and accountants, they're more for wedding or New York real estate agents.

    Most of all, the care and attention your showing about your look for a 6 month placement will stand you well, and you will look far better than most lads in there who are settled in and in the same Remus uomo rag bought in the January sales 6 years ago, with a lilac shirt from a dunes two pack

    2 Pack lilacs :-D :-D Ya that is what I am hoping. I had a very good interview with them, have a good CV and have Strong interest in the area I will be working in, so I feel like clothes (and maybe accent) are the last hurdles to conquer.
    Eh don't use black polish on brown shoes! Brown polish for brown shoes. Black for black. Or you can get a neutral colour. Don't get anything in a supermarket - get your polish from the shoe place. Or order online, I'd recommend Saphir: https://www.saphirmedailledorshop.co.uk/

    For trousers, if you are sure you're going to lose weight, get a 34 and let them out a little. Then you can let them back in when you lose weight. If you get the 36 and get them taken in a size, they won't look so good.

    Two suits for now, get your style right. Then get the third if you want to. But two for a summer internship should be good enough, considering your Fridays are going to be casual.

    Your shirt will become untucked as the day goes on, but nothing you can do about that except tuck it back in as you go along. Best thing to do when you put on your shirt and trousers is to lift both your arms to the side, so the shirt lifts up but then settles back. Usually longer shirts will become untucked easier. But saying that a too-short shirt will never stay tucked into your trousers. If you have a belt and your trousers are sitting just above your hip bone you'll be OK.

    Black belt with black shoes. Brown belt with brown shoes. And personally I wouldn't wear a white shirt with brown shoes.

    Similar colour polish for similar colour shoes seems obvious but I am a novice to this so it is better to ask :-).

    I have attached a pic of the suit I currently have. It says it is navy rather than blue on the website (I just called it blue), so I reckon I should just stick with that one awhile as I think it fits well and looks quite nice.

    If I buy another navy one off suitsupply I would have two navy ones and would probably still need to buy another non-navy suit.

    My gf, who has very elegant taste I must say, thinks it looks really nice. I think it fits quite well too, although the pants are too long. Will bring it to a tailor and see what they think.

    What do you think of this suit? I know you said dont mix and match. But I didnt mean that they were different colours/material/look etc. I meant that you have the option to choose a different size pants for a different size jacket. Its the only one left that I can get from suit supply with different size pants and jacket, that isnt navy.

    http://eu.suitsupply.com/en_IE/jackets/napoli-dark-grey-pinstripe/P1104-JD.html

    This part here is a edit. I went ahead and ordered the suit above with a size 40 jacket, size 34 pants and size 36 pants. That way I can see which one fits and return the other. If it looks terrible I can just return both.

    Secretly hoping I am actually a size 42 jacket as that comes with a 34 pants :-D. Unlikely though.

    IF I got down to a 34 waist, is there enough rook in the 32" pants to let it out to fit? Or is it only a inch it can be let out. I read online it depends on the suit pants. Some have more material than others. Not sure what suit supply are like.

    Thanks again for all your replies. You have really given me some seriously good information that would have taken me a long long time to research myself online.

    I am spending all my time watching suit videos on youtube instead of doing my assignments. Bad situation :-D


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