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Life in the PSNI?

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  • #102
    swl33t
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭swl33t


    Do shift patterns vary across stations?


  • #103
    dollasign
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭dollasign


    swl33t wrote: »
    Do shift patterns vary across stations?

    Slightly but most places are on the same sort of shifts


  • #104
    scuba lad
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭scuba lad


    The retirement age for a constable is 60 right? Anyone know if you can opt to work past this age. Iam over 30 , so too old for a full pension.
    Just think retiring at 60 is a bit early and financially i would need to be looking for another job which i dont fancy at that age!!


  • #105
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    scuba lad wrote: »
    The retirement age for a constable is 60 right? Anyone know if you can opt to work past this age. Iam over 30 , so too old for a full pension.
    Just think retiring at 60 is a bit early and financially i would need to be looking for another job which i dont fancy at that age!!

    I assume you will be able to work past it as long as you still meet medical requirements. Glad to know I'm not the only 'mature person' trying, though, I'm closer to 40 now than I am 30.


  • #106
    scuba lad
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭scuba lad


    Ha ha....well being totally honest iam in the same age group as yourself!! As much as i want the job just working out if its finacially viable to take an intial wage drop for 3 years plus the early retirement age!


  • #107
    Life_On_Mars
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Life_On_Mars


    I joined in my 40s and was told you work to 60 then apply for any additional service after that. I know of a custody Sgt working well into 60s. Age is not really any barrier from the service. I put my own barriers in by trying to talk myself out of joining due to age. The service made me very welcome. Just go for it!


  • #108
    scuba lad
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭scuba lad


    That 'IS' good news! If you dont mind me asking. What age did you join at and what kind of pension do you expect to get on retirement?

    Thanks.


  • #109
    Life_On_Mars
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Life_On_Mars


    I joined at 42. They are predicting a 35 year pensions pays the equivalent of 24000 as a Con. I'm aiming for anything better than half of that if I go at 60. Hopefully won't be a Con by then. Us oldies need to hustle to get on as we have limited time.


  • #110
    scuba lad
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭scuba lad


    Cheers Life_On Mars..appreciate the reply! You been in long?


  • #111
    Life_On_Mars
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Life_On_Mars


    Don't want to give too much away on open source, but short enough to be on new poor pay 😢


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  • #112
    scuba lad
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭scuba lad


    No problem totally understand...shouldn't have asked!


  • #113
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    What is the current pay rate? Hopefully higher than what I'm on in my job.


  • #114
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Am I right in saying there is no tutor constable anymore?

    Do the newbies fresh out of GV have a kind of a tutor or someone to shadow or is it straight into the deep end?


  • #115
    majgreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭majgreen


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Am I right in saying there is no tutor constable anymore?

    Do the newbies fresh out of GV have a kind of a tutor or someone to shadow or is it straight into the deep end?

    Straight to the deep end. Our section will put newbies out with experienced cons for 5 weeks to shadow though I don't know about everyone else!


  • #116
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Thanks maj :)


  • #117
    Homeward
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Homeward


    Hi all,

    I'm looking to get as much info as I possibly can from current/retired officers about there thoughts about the district/area they work in and where they would prefer to work? Reasons for this and so on.

    I am a serving officer for another force and when it comes time to put my choices in I want to put my best foot forward, so to speak!

    I understand that people may not want to speak freely on the forum especially if it comes to opinions about the job, their own district, station, other districts, etc, so feel free to PM me.

    Any info will be greatly appreciated, and a huge help!

    Thanks,

    Homeward


  • #118
    majgreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭majgreen


    Homeward wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I'm looking to get as much info as I possibly can from current/retired officers about there thoughts about the district/area they work in and where they would prefer to work? Reasons for this and so on.

    I am a serving officer for another force and when it comes time to put my choices in I want to put my best foot forward, so to speak!

    I understand that people may not want to speak freely on the forum especially if it comes to opinions about the job, their own district, station, other districts, etc, so feel free to PM me.

    Any info will be greatly appreciated, and a huge help!

    Thanks,

    Homeward
    replying so that others can see too:
    Make your choices based on what you feel suits you best. 

    Inevitably, busy city districts such as Belfast and Derry/Londonderry are going to be busier than rural districts such as Dungannon and Cookstown. Do you want to jump right into the deep end and get going? or would you find it easier to go slower and slightly more methodical?

    Also take into account where you live, how far you will travel, and what kind of area you will be working and living in. I know of officers who drive over an hour each way to work. To me, thats insane and adds far too much time onto your working day, to others, they don't mind.

    Then consider what type of policing would you like to do. In the cities you get a good variety of work, but you will end up going from call to call with very little time in between to engage with the local community. Rural areas tend to have more 'down time' for lack of a better word, therefore they can be more pro-active in engaging with people outside of calls.

    There are a lot of factors to consider, but i don't feel as if one district would hand you an advantage over another. Each are unique and have their own challenges.


  • #119
    Homeward
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Homeward


    majgreen wrote: »
    Homeward wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I'm looking to get as much info as I possibly can from current/retired officers about there thoughts about the district/area they work in and where they would prefer to work? Reasons for this and so on.

    I am a serving officer for another force and when it comes time to put my choices in I want to put my best foot forward, so to speak!

    I understand that people may not want to speak freely on the forum especially if it comes to opinions about the job, their own district, station, other districts, etc, so feel free to PM me.

    Any info will be greatly appreciated, and a huge help!

    Thanks,

    Homeward
    replying so that others can see too:
    Make your choices based on what you feel suits you best. 

    Inevitably, busy city districts such as Belfast and Derry/Londonderry are going to be busier than rural districts such as Dungannon and Cookstown. Do you want to jump right into the deep end and get going? or would you find it easier to go slower and slightly more methodical?

    Also take into account where you live, how far you will travel, and what kind of area you will be working and living in. I know of officers who drive over an hour each way to work. To me, thats insane and adds far too much time onto your working day, to others, they don't mind.

    Then consider what type of policing would you like to do. In the cities you get a good variety of work, but you will end up going from call to call with very little time in between to engage with the local community. Rural areas tend to have more 'down time' for lack of a better word, therefore they can be more pro-active in engaging with people outside of calls.

    There are a lot of factors to consider, but i don't feel as if one district would hand you an advantage over another. Each are unique and have their own challenges.

    Cheers Majgreen, I work in a city at the minute and it's pretty much how you've described it! I'm moving back to N.I so I can move anywhere although would prefer Belfast or close to the same.

    How long have you been on the street? Can I ask you about training/depts? I've been lucky in my career so far and dealt with a wide variety of calls/incidents, but I'm keen to get further training in areas that interest me and would also like to know how hard it is getting into different depts? In my current force/service, it can be very difficult to get further training and into depts because we are so short on the frontline it's pretty much a no go due to staffing!


  • #120
    takodah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭takodah


    Came across this the other day, a friend had liked the page (a reminder to cut people out if I get in).

    Various videos of PSNI stop and searching and the comment section is a thrill to read too. Risky having yourself on camera as an officer... but digital age why can you do.

    https://m.facebook.com/people/Junior-McDaid-House/100014035745130

    What are your thoughts as we will all be facing mebers if the public like this at some stage ?


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  • #121
    Banterbus28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    You are accountable to the public, and if it is in a public area and not presenting a risk to life or property they can film all they want.


  • #122
    majgreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭majgreen


    Banterbus28 wrote: »
    You are accountable to the public, and if it is in a public area and not presenting a risk to life or property they can film all they want.

    Unless of course their filming is obstructive to your duty, at which point they are obstructing police. Further to that, if they or their friends are being disorderly and their filming captures this offence or others, it can be seized as evidence :)


  • #123
    gert61
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭gert61


    In terms of shift working, are there any flexible working policies in place? If you can request certain hours for certain days? To accommodate child care arrangements to tie in with partner's work schedule for example?


  • #124
    takodah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭takodah


    Thanks banterbus and majgreen! Interesting to know.


  • #125
    CaptHarris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭CaptHarris


    gert61 wrote: »
    In terms of shift working, are there any flexible working policies in place? If you can request certain hours for certain days? To accommodate child care arrangements to tie in with partner's work schedule for example?

    Good luck with that. Definitely not an option for training or your probationary period. There are policies available but remember you start out as a frontline response Constable. You're expected to do the full range of shifts etc.


  • #126
    Tinfoilcap
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭Tinfoilcap


    gert61 wrote: »
    In terms of shift working, are there any flexible working policies in place? If you can request certain hours for certain days? To accommodate child care arrangements to tie in with partner's work schedule for example?

    You'll not get something that good. You may be able to get something arranged, everything is assessed on an individual basis and you can apply even when you're a probationer, I work with folks who use it and they're in probation still.....


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  • #127
    Banterbus28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    How are the police with a full sleeve tattoo? English forces are quite lenient, just wondering how the PSNI are.


  • #128
    bangedtorights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭bangedtorights


    I serve in an English force and you are not allowed to have any tattoos on display. You have to cover them up.


  • #129
    bangedtorights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭bangedtorights


    I serve in an English force and you are not allowed to have any tattoos on display. You have to cover them up.


  • #130
    Banterbus28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    What force? Seen a few peelers in england with my own eyes with tattoos on display so just thought that was the rule.


  • #131
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Tattoo policy extract:

    "If you are accepted as a police trainee and you already have a tattoo(s) then your tattoo(s) must be covered when on duty and/or representing the Service at public events, (except in those cases where it is necessary as a result of religious/cultural observance). Tattoos on the forearm should be covered by a long-sleeved shirt. If the tattoo is particularly prominent e.g. a full sleeve tattoo, significant body tattoo and would be visible under a white shirt then it is expected the officer will wear a further undergarment to maintain your professional image.  Females with tattoos on their leg or ankles should ensure that they are not visible when wearing a skirt.  If they are visible then females will be required to wear trousers. These standards apply whether you are in uniform or plain clothes."

    Source: https://www.joinpsni.co.uk/application-process/policies

    So, no short sleeve shirts in summer then!! :)


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