Up-and-coming areas of Dublin?

asteroids over berlin · 27-09-2016 9:03am

mariaalice wrote: »

Any where around here is still good value for example

www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/glasnevin/50-griffith-parade-glasnevin-dublin-1253217/or example.

Loads of bus option, you could walk in to town, the botanic gardens, mature area. I know you get lots saying its near Ballymun/Finglas or its not really Glasnevin.

Its funny what make an area sought after or not.

that link is to a map of greater Dublin!

kenon · 27-09-2016 9:12am

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

that link is to a map of greater Dublin!

Fixed link

blacklilly · 27-09-2016 9:20am

I wouldn't touch Clongriffin, plenty of housing available but very little else. Also putting aside the issues with pyrite, much of the housing available is not of good quality and was fired up during the boom.

I don't believe Nutgrove is going to improve any more than it has. Considering the surrounding areas and the development that has occurred over the past 10 years, Nutgrove has remained mostly unchanged. You might find some value there but personally not a location I would take a punt on.

asteroids over berlin · 27-09-2016 9:52am

kenon wrote: »

Fixed link

Your more or less in Finglas and touching Ballymun here but it's okish, area has improved in recent years

asteroids over berlin · 27-09-2016 9:56am

blacklilly wrote: »

I wouldn't touch Clongriffin, plenty of housing available but very little else. Also putting aside the issues with pyrite, much of the housing available is not of good quality and was fired up during the boom.

I don't believe Nutgrove is going to improve any more than it has. Considering the surrounding areas and the development that has occurred over the past 10 years, Nutgrove has remained mostly unchanged. You might find some value there but personally not a location I would take a punt on.

Clongriffin: i thought they were referring to the new developments going on now? They look nice, indeed you are kind of in the middle of nowhere but your not too far from the coast (few locations) and malahide etc

Nutgtrove: Disagree, houses are selling very fast, which is not surprising given the location, area is a bargain and i am not being bias - check the register, prices are steadily rising and will continue to do so. it's the Phibsboro of the Southside

The new developments only increase the value as most of the new developments are eye wateringly expensive

mariaalice · 27-09-2016 5:06pm

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

Your more or less in Finglas and touching Ballymun here but it's okish, area has improved in recent years

That is the thing I don't get it is a nice mature area and what is going to happen, Finglas and Ballymun are going to invade, a house under 220k in a good area beside red brick Glasnevin is a very good value.

kmfrob · 17-02-2017 8:13pm

We bought a large (well relatively large) three bedroom 1950s ex-council house on the south eastern end of Glasanaon Road (Glasnevin North/Finglas East) a couple of years ago for 225,000 and haven't regretted it once.

I work on the Quays and am in work on the 83 within 20 mins. The neighbourhood is great, nice neighbours, no trouble from kids or crime, and only 15 mins walk from the Botanic Gardens/Washerwoman/Andersons Cafe. We also have Johnstown Park 30 seconds walk from our door.

The proposed airport LUAS line will pass 10 minutes walk from here when it gets built.

There's so much to recommend about the area (except for a decent local), I simply don't understand why it never comes up in these discussions!

Spanish Eyes · 17-02-2017 9:23pm

I think we all think that where we live is the best place to live.

That's OK for us, but not for everyone else most of the time, different needs and wants I suppose. And the Northside/Southside divide lives on.

If I had to leave my house in the morning my dream would be Chapelizod. Gorgeous spot, nice village feel, a few nice pubs and a new restaurant opened. Great history attached and the Phoenix Park on the doorstep. Twenty minutes or so into town, and a few minutes to M50. No wonder it's keeping itself quiet.

kmfrob · 17-02-2017 9:33pm

We saw a great little house right on the Liffey in Chapelizod a few years back, but it was 300 grand. I think my issue though is that there is massive post code snobbery in Dublin. Like I'm English and we specialise in class snobbery, but the way our area (Finglas East/Glasnevin North) gets overlooked based purely on the fact that it's in Dublin 11 is crazy! I'm sure it's the same for loads of other similar areas around Dublin!

subpar · 17-02-2017 10:15pm

The North Docklands

appledrop · 17-02-2017 10:30pm

Don't understand why so many people are saying Inchicore. Worked there a few years ago + the area was rough + over run with junkies. Maybe there are nice areas but I was never in them.

Samuel T. Cogley · 17-02-2017 11:16pm

Pretty much anywhere without ingrained social issues near any sort of non-bus public transport, such is the demand at the moment.

Inchicore is a funny one - it's rough but also quite nice and very handy at the same time. It's not for everyone but if you're the sort that can cope with it there are quite a few advantages.

'Bad' areas inside the M50 and just getting squeezed smaller and smaller. That is except the city centre which continues to be as rough as a badgers backside.

handlemaster · 18-02-2017 8:49am

where in dublin is the best place you can buy for say under 200 k ?

Samuel T. Cogley · 18-02-2017 11:22am

handlemaster wrote: »

where in dublin is the best place you can buy for say under 200 k ?

It depends what you want - plenty of apartments in Dublin with loads of advantages and disadvantages there.

At that price range I'd consider Balbriggan near the train.

Hollister11 · 18-02-2017 12:28pm

Apartments in Baldoyle, Clongriffin.

handlemaster · 18-02-2017 2:03pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It depends what you want - plenty of apartments in Dublin with loads of advantages and disadvantages there.

At that price range I'd consider Balbriggan near the train.

For a friend on about investing.

Samuel T. Cogley · 18-02-2017 2:08pm

handlemaster wrote: »

For a friend on about investing.

City Centre apartments in that case, although it will depend on the type of investment. There's not real short term get in and get out at that level IMHO. Some decent yields on the right apartment though.

jon1981 · 18-02-2017 8:42pm

appledrop wrote: »

Don't understand why so many people are saying Inchicore. Worked there a few years ago + the area was rough + over run with junkies. Maybe there are nice areas but I was never in them.

That must have 15+ yrs ago, definitely not like that now. The area between south circular road up to Bulfin road is full of professionals and families.

I think the opportunity to get a bargain here has passed. Here are some of the recent sales in the areas I'm referring to ... I don't think people would part with >300k if the area was full of junkies...

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/Website/NPSRA/PPR/npsra-ppr.nsf/eStampUNID/UNID-E3891C0F4971564E802580BA004D015A?OpenDocument - 428k

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/Website/NPSRA/PPR/npsra-ppr.nsf/eStampUNID/UNID-1F84BC7E2661140A8025807B004CF63E?OpenDocument - 325k

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/Website/NPSRA/PPR/npsra-ppr.nsf/eStampUNID/UNID-898CD86BAE179E558025805100477C1D?OpenDocument - 350k

Cynortas · 18-02-2017 9:01pm

Come to tallaght it's definitely up and coming only 2 murders in the last 4 months!!!!

appledrop · 18-02-2017 9:25pm

No it wasn't 15 years ago. If you do a search on crime + inchicore there are tons of articles that mention serious criminals who are from Inchicore.

John_Rambo · 18-02-2017 9:43pm

Harmonstown.

Excellent location close to the coast and the city. Somewhat hidden and ignored with a Dart station.

jon1981 · 18-02-2017 9:47pm

appledrop wrote: »

No it wasn't 15 years ago. If you do a search on crime + inchicore there are tons of articles that mention serious criminals who are from Inchicore.

Yes there are two notable brothers, low level criminals doing life in prison. But then so is a fellow from foxrock... point being? crime is everywhere and a couple of outliers doesn't tar an area.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-02-2017 1:23pm

I'd say some would still part with 300-375K even in an area with some problems and Inchicore does have it's problems. However they're no where near as bad as people make out and the benefits outweigh the problems. The very point of the thread is up and coming areas - an up and coming area won't be perfect, it requires you to move in - usually on the periphery - and start a boards campaign on how good the area is driving up the prices err... work on it!

Get involved with the local community groups, keep your house nicely, get to know people around.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-02-2017 1:24pm

jon1981 wrote: »

Yes there are two notable brothers, low level criminals doing life in prison. But then so is a fellow from foxrock... point being? crime is everywhere and a couple of outliers doesn't tar an area.

+1

in 2014/2015 Public order was worse in Donnybrook than Finglas. Should that put on off Donnybrook or does one need to dig down a bit and judge an area by first hand experience?

Spanish Eyes · 19-02-2017 2:54pm

I think the old Railway area in Inchicore is delightful. Have a look around.

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.340829,-6.3240278,3a,75y,84.8h,88.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWSe8Hhkb8Cvw4OEBw2jDHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3396121,-6.3242873,3a,75y,24.7h,83.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRMAujQNDGR0dXa2w3MvtxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Eric Cartman · 19-02-2017 5:35pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

+1

in 2014/2015 Public order was worse in Donnybrook than Finglas. Should that put on off Donnybrook or does one need to dig down a bit and judge an area by first hand experience?

UCD and the RDS crowds is the source of those (very low level) public order offences. Public order wouldn't worry me. With any university / venue around, you will get an increase in public order issues.

For thefts, stabbings, murders, muggings, burglaries, rapes, assaults etc… finglas will always be worse than donnybrook.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-02-2017 6:03pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

UCD and the RDS crowds is the source of those (very low level) public order offences. Public order wouldn't worry me. With any university / venue around, you will get an increase in public order issues.

For thefts, stabbings, murders, muggings, burglaries, rapes, assaults etc… finglas will always be worse than donnybrook.

I'd be very dubious that more rapes happen in Finglas than Donnybrook for exactly the same reason you've cited. Pubs, students and drink. However the point is - don't try and use google as a deciding factor on an area - unless it's google maps and you're picking out aesthetics.

Furthermore what's more disturbing, people constantly pissing in your hedge and waking you up or a serious major crime, which happens everywhere in Dublin, happening ever so slightly more frequently. A final thing to bear in mind is most of the Dublin scumbags won;t **** on their own doorstep and if I was a burglar I think I'd be more likely to want to rob a house in Foxrock than Finglas tbh.

I'm more likely to encounter the 'hounds' in Foxrock while I steal jewelry, I'm much more likely to encounter a hairy arsed builder with a hurling stick and a 'special' understanding with the Defence and the Dwelling Act, while trying to pinch a half broken Playstation and a Harvey Norman 60" flat screen.

LG1234 · 19-02-2017 6:11pm

jon1981 wrote: »

That must have 15+ yrs ago, definitely not like that now. The area between south circular road up to Bulfin road is full of professionals and families.

I think the opportunity to get a bargain here has passed. Here are some of the recent sales in the areas I'm referring to ... I don't think people would part with >300k if the area was full of junkies...

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/Website/NPSRA/PPR/npsra-ppr.nsf/eStampUNID/UNID-E3891C0F4971564E802580BA004D015A?OpenDocument - 428k

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/Website/NPSRA/PPR/npsra-ppr.nsf/eStampUNID/UNID-1F84BC7E2661140A8025807B004CF63E?OpenDocument - 325k

https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/Website/NPSRA/PPR/npsra-ppr.nsf/eStampUNID/UNID-898CD86BAE179E558025805100477C1D?OpenDocument - 350k

I lived in inchicore until a couple of years ago for a couple of years. In that time my bike was robbed, apartment broken into, car broken into, junkies shooting up in front of apartment, feral kids causing trouble all the time. In fact the feral kids are so bad there that sometimes spar has to keep its doors locked. Ive also witnessed a horse on the spar a few times. It was one of the worst parts of Dublin I've lived in and I grew up in Tallaght and Clondalkin, never had as much troubleas when we were there. We were gonna buy there before we decided to rent there first glad we did and glad we got out.

Great butcher's there though, the luas and a short hop to town.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-02-2017 6:16pm

The Spa road end is very unsettled. My best mate lives there and has done for years, apart from having to tell the kids to feck off on a semi regular basis, never had any of the issues you've had, touch wood. Most of Tallaght and Clondalkin on the other hand are very settled, some not. But to be fair to Inchicore it's like Judging Tallaght just on Jobstown.

Alicano · 19-02-2017 6:53pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I think the old Railway area in Inchicore is delightful. Have a look around.

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.340829,-6.3240278,3a,75y,84.8h,88.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWSe8Hhkb8Cvw4OEBw2jDHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3396121,-6.3242873,3a,75y,24.7h,83.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRMAujQNDGR0dXa2w3MvtxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That is delightful alright. Cheers.

Up-and-coming areas of Dublin?

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