Dairy chit chat II

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Russian are not fudged doing cheap feed grains(non gm soya and bread wheat), beside this proper winter has knocked 2 previous big harvest firmly on the head.
Beside golden rule of grain trading is ignore the black sea until it's on a boat.

Do you ever read agronomy unkraine? Very interesting how his view of crop quality etc can differ so much from the official reports.

Its a strange world we're in where big grain surpluses left to rot have so much influence on prices

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Its a strange world we're in where big grain surpluses left to rot have so much influence on prices

That will be simply written off by some stock exchange i'd imagine with an insurance claim.
If you had the brass ball$ big enough you could paper farm a few hundred k acres making 10-50c on the ton in paper grain trading, though you could lose out either. We don't do it but i know farms that buy and sell paper grain a good bit, it's a year like 2012 that ruins them. We'd forward sell 50-60% mostly to cover costs then see where it falls after that.
This year we had super quality bread wheat but alot was forward sold for a bit less and as the french were way down on yield and quality after their once in decades awful harvest. , So.... i bought other peoples lower quality but still in spec grain and had that delivered instead of ours, though it's not exactly 'right' to do it but the trader who organised it looked the other way when those loads were delivered. Sold ours on the spot price for a good bit more after currency fluctuations from last Oct to know.

Timmaay wrote: »

Meanwhile Russia has discovered it has 1000s of HAs lying largely idle that can grow cheap corn...

Just on that, it's not just Russia, go to the Eastern edge of Germany and head east from there. Once they get their skills and facilities(Eu are pumping in the money) to the same levels as over here we're all fudged over in the west.
From Poland spilling out into Hungary/Romania/(your views on ukraine):pac:/czech republic is like another american plains ticking over in low gear to provide the bulk and western europe to keep the industrial hearthlands happy with nice hedges and fluffy scenes in fields. http://www.spearheadinternational.com/scale This lot are heading for the modern farming company if the above pans out.

If any one has a Liscarrol adlib calf feeder to sell, could you please DM.

Thanks

Keepgrowing wrote: »

If any one has a Liscarrol adlib calf feeder to sell, could you please DM.

Thanks

They're pretty bombproof. I'd say you'll find one hard to come by. Checked with a neighbour but he's still using the 20 plus yr old liscarroll for feeding bull calves despite putting in a full auto feeder for replacement heifers.

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Cheers Free, I want for bull calves and Hereford calves.

Point of interest. He said it's almost impossible to get heifers on milk replacer to come close to bills performance on whole milk. You wouldn't find many farmers with a closer attention to detail than this guy or more of a grá for tech so both systems would be well managed.

mickey1985 wrote: »

Just curious did many of Dairygold suppliers sign the fixed milk price contract. I signed at 5%.

My husband actually did, Had to have it in by wednesday. He has 25% on 30c now. And found out yesterday that milk price is gone up to 31c.....

blackdog1 wrote: »

Fat and protein levels are way higher in whole milk so if you can and have no problems with it, Feed it. Most milk replacer is whey based, that means it is only on the calfs system for 2 hours. Skim is 4-6. Calves on a high based skim product are alot more content because of this. I was talking to a French student here and he says French farmers feed 25-60% skim. most of the milk powder here being sold couldn't be sold in the country of origin because the farmers wouldn't buy it. Also alot of the high skim have only 21% protein in it. This 26% is not needed if your giving them a good protein ration from e early on.

Only issue with whole milk is that the fat content is much higher than milk replacer which means calves don't start on meal for a good bit longer due to not having a demand for it. Nothing wrong with it at all it's just that they can be more prone to digestive upsets if anything changes.

Feeding whole milk here ATM. Bull calves starting to go next week so we'll put the heifers on replacer then

Whole milk is 35% but fat is very high too I have exact figures I'll post later

An open letter to glanbia agribusiness: please Phuck off texting me stupid spam messages for offers I don't want. Please give me an option to unsubscribe from your mailing list. Meanwhile you have been added to my list of blocked numbers.

Timmaay wrote: »

An open letter to glanbia agribusiness: please Phuck off texting me stupid spam messages for offers I don't want. Please give me an option to unsubscribe from your mailing list. Meanwhile you have been added to my list of blocked numbers.

I wouldn't mind but these sales are not sales at all. Magenta is way cheaper for nearly everything . Does anyone buy off the glanbia connect site. 4texts s o far today about vaccine sale. A text then when I was having a snooze about the milk statements being up on line

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

blackdog1 wrote: »

Fat and protein levels are way higher in whole milk so if you can and have no problems with it, Feed it. Most milk replacer is whey based, that means it is only on the calfs system for 2 hours. Skim is 4-6. Calves on a high based skim product are alot more content because of this. I was talking to a French student here and he says French farmers feed 25-60% skim. most of the milk powder here being sold couldn't be sold in the country of origin because the farmers wouldn't buy it. Also alot of the high skim have only 21% protein in it. This 26% is not needed if your giving them a good protein ration from e early on.

Only issue with whole milk is that the fat content is much higher than milk replacer which means calves don't start on meal for a good bit longer due to not having a demand for it. Nothing wrong with it at all it's just that they can be more prone to digestive upsets if anything changes.

Feeding whole milk here ATM. Bull calves starting to go next week so we'll put the heifers on replacer then

Would the risk of Jonnie's not also be a huge risk with feeding whole milk seems to be a lot of it coming out of Ireland herds

Maybe testing more for it over here , seems to be more of a problem when cows end up large herd. Have 40 positive here mostly out of Irish herds . Only had our first clinical last year when the boundaries were pushed a bit with stocking rate .