Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

Jordan 199 · 15-02-2017 09:07PM

It will be interesting to find out what Scorpio will cost.

TitianGerm · 15-02-2017 09:14PM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

It will be interesting to find out what Scorpio will cost.

€499 I'd say. Maybe €50 either way though.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 15-02-2017 09:17PM

emmetkenny wrote: »

€499 I'd say. Maybe €50 either way though.

if its 450 or under, i'll most likely be there on day one. otherwise, as you say, argos in january might be the way to go.

wexdevil · 15-02-2017 09:18PM

Thats what I'm expecting pricewise, I've been putting away money every now and then for it.

TitianGerm · 15-02-2017 09:20PM

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

if its 450 or under, i'll most likely be there on day one. otherwise, as you say, argos in january might be the way to go.

How much was the PSPro, €450? I really don't see Scorpio being the same price and it being a vastly superior console (based on rumoured specs.) €50 more than the Pro would be my guess.

ECO_Mental · 15-02-2017 09:26PM

Santa will be getting it for me

that's the one advantage of having kids Santa's starts coming to your house again and you can get whatever toy you want...

qrx · 16-02-2017 10:04AM

It needs to be the same price as the Ps pro. Remember why the ps4 was so quick off the mark? Same price, superior hardware. Scorpio needs the same.

TitianGerm · 16-02-2017 10:23AM

qrx wrote: »

It needs to be the same price as the Ps pro. Remember why the ps4 was so quick off the mark? Same price, superior hardware. Scorpio needs the same.

I don't think it needs to be the same price. €50 more expensive but not much more than that.

The PS4 was so quick off the mark because it was a gaming machine first and foremost. Xbox tried to sell a Home Entertainment device with always online connectivity.

TrustedApple · 16-02-2017 11:14AM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I don't think it needs to be the same price. €50 more expensive but not much more than that.

The PS4 was so quick off the mark because it was a gaming machine first and foremost. Xbox tried to sell a Home Entertainment device with always online connectivity.

Dont forgot the Kinect ...... You had to buy one of them if you wonted a Xbox one day one.

TitianGerm · 16-02-2017 11:18AM

TrustedApple wrote: »

Dont forgot the Kinect ...... You had to buy one of them if you wonted a Xbox one day one.

I don't mind the Kinnect. I use mine everyday to sign in, record clips, pause TV etc. It's very handy for me.

Ould Mr Brennan · 16-02-2017 02:27PM

Hoping for a few new games to be announced along with Scorpio. And for the love of god please explain what the hell sea of thieves is instead of these stupid trailers they keep showing.

qrx · 16-02-2017 02:47PM

Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »

Hoping for a few new games to be announced along with Scorpio. And for the love of god please explain what the hell sea of thieves is instead of these stupid trailers they keep showing.

I'm not suggesting it's going to be a rubbish game, but I've learnt the hard way to wait it out until the hype has died down before deciding on a game. Vague trailers and review embargos are the norm these days. And as the old Texas saying goes, Fool me once - you can't get fooled again.

feelgoodinc27 · 16-02-2017 03:57PM

qrx wrote: »

It needs to be the same price as the Ps pro. Remember why the ps4 was so quick off the mark? Same price, superior hardware. Scorpio needs the same.

Wasn't the PS4 €100 cheaper at launch? More than anything I think price shafted them at launch, like Sony trying to sell the PS3 for €599. Besides price Microsoft really need more exclusives to sell the Scorpio.

Max Mafioso · 16-02-2017 04:04PM

I just got added to the Sea of Thieves closed Beta which is for Saturday between 7pm and 10pm
Looking forward to trying it and seeing what its like

Jordan 199 · 16-02-2017 04:23PM

feelgoodinc27 wrote: »

Wasn't the PS4 €100 cheaper at launch? More than anything I think price shafted them at launch, like Sony trying to sell the PS3 for €599. Besides price Microsoft really need more exclusives to sell the Scorpio.

It was.

With Phil Spencer running the Xbox division at Microsoft, I think Scorpio will be an awesome console.

CatInABox · 16-02-2017 04:26PM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

It was.

With Phil Spencer running the Xbox division at Microsoft, I think Scorpio will be an awesome console.

Yeah, with Spencer in charge, the worst that will happen is that it may be expensive. There'll be no confused messaging about DRM, or Tv, or any of that lark. Just look at the last few E3s since he's been in charge, everyone of them designed to give more good stuff to gamers.

Ould Mr Brennan · 16-02-2017 04:51PM

Max Mafioso wrote: »

I just got added to the Sea of Thieves closed Beta which is for Saturday between 7pm and 10pm
Looking forward to trying it and seeing what its like

Please report back if you can Max. Thanks

Stone Deaf 4evr · 16-02-2017 05:02PM

CatInABox wrote: »

Yeah, with Spencer in charge, the worst that will happen is that it may be expensive. There'll be no confused messaging about DRM, or Tv, or any of that lark. Just look at the last few E3s since he's been in charge, everyone of them designed to give more good stuff to gamers.

The dream presentation for me would be a price point on par with PS4 pro, Announcements of new titles that take advantage of the horsepower
and then a bullet point list of how it'll benefit current games, i.e. games that will now run at 60fps, games that'll run at a higher resolution, etc etc.

in fairness to the ps4 pro, that boost mode feature is impressive.

qrx · 16-02-2017 06:59PM

I'm hoping they have an ace up their sleeve. It's basically a pc, I wonder will the Xbox brand become an app or vm environment within windows allowing you to use your own pc if you have one powerful enough. Having the Scorpio as an "Xbox approved" but fully fledged pc.

16-02-2017 07:49PM

Unless we're going to start seeing all games run at 60 fps 1080p I can't see myself buying one at launch. Just not worth it. Also don't all games on it have to run on xbox one too

So if thats the case no scorpio exclusives at least fro a while until they decide one support is holding games back.

qrx · 16-02-2017 08:12PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Unless we're going to start seeing all games run at 60 fps 1080p I can't see myself buying one at launch. Just not worth it. Also don't all games on it have to run on xbox one too So if thats the case no scorpio exclusives at least fro a while until they decide one support is holding games back.

Spencer said its up to developers if they want to do Scorpio exclusives. Makes sense if you think about it Microsoft does not have the authority to stop them.

As for 1080p 60fps, we might see older games and launch titles run at that but wouldn't the extra power be used up as games get more detailed? I think resolution and fps is an ongoing problem, same as pc as your spec gets outdated you can only play newer games at lower settings.

CatInABox · 16-02-2017 09:57PM

Unfortunately, the situation on the Scorpio is going to be more complicated than on the PS4 Pro.

Almost every game has a hard coded resolution, meaning that if Microsoft have some kind of boost mode, it'll only work on the FPS, and not on the resolution. We'll have smoother gameplay, but the resolution will still be less than 1080p, whereas this isn't as big an issue on the PS4 Pro, as most games are 1080p(or closer to it anyway).

Games will have to have an official patch for any change to their resolution. There are, of course, games that use dynamic resolution, and those games will get an instant boost from being on the Scorpio. So Halo 5 will almost certainly go 1080p/60 the second you load it on Xbox One, while Forza Horizon 3 will be 4K, what with it being a UWP game. Everything that doesn't fall into those two brackets will require a patch.

I'll be watching the E3 announcement with great interest on this point actually, if Microsoft can come up with some software way of boosting the resolution of games without requiring a patch, then I'll take my hat off to them.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 16-02-2017 11:08PM

CatInABox wrote: »

Unfortunately, the situation on the Scorpio is going to be more complicated than on the PS4 Pro.

Almost every game has a hard coded resolution, meaning that if Microsoft have some kind of boost mode, it'll only work on the FPS, and not on the resolution. We'll have smoother gameplay, but the resolution will still be less than 1080p, whereas this isn't as big an issue on the PS4 Pro, as most games are 1080p(or closer to it anyway).

Games will have to have an official patch for any change to their resolution. There are, of course, games that use dynamic resolution, and those games will get an instant boost from being on the Scorpio. So Halo 5 will almost certainly go 1080p/60 the second you load it on Xbox One, while Forza Horizon 3 will be 4K, what with it being a UWP game. Everything that doesn't fall into those two brackets will require a patch.

I'll be watching the E3 announcement with great interest on this point actually, if Microsoft can come up with some software way of boosting the resolution of games without requiring a patch, then I'll take my hat off to them.

Their success with backwards compatibility has shown that at the very least, they're willing to commit resources to getting the most out of the system. The fact that they've managed to get an emulator, to run games coded for a different platform, running at performance levels better than the original console, is something they don't get half enough credit for.

MiskyBoyy · 16-02-2017 11:13PM

All this talk of Scorpio and e3 is getting me very ****ing excited. Nothing beats a new Xbox launch for that boy at Christmas feeling!

shuffles03 · 17-02-2017 09:20PM

Just turned on my Xbox for the first time since December. Has there been an OS update since? I checked but I wasn't prompted.

It says the Xbox was last updated December 16. Does that sound right?

My OS IS: 10.0.14393.2152

shuffles03 · 17-02-2017 09:22PM

Just turned on my Xbox for the first time since December. Has there been an OS update since? I checked but I wasn't prompted.

It says the Xbox was last updated December 16. Does that sound right?

MiskyBoyy · 17-02-2017 10:04PM

shuffles03 wrote:

It says the Xbox was last updated December 16. Does that sound right?

Yeah the last public update was December. There's preview updates right now but the next big public one will be March again.

wotzgoingon · 18-02-2017 12:33AM

Damn missed out on Killer Instinct Season 2 when it was games with gold. Totally forgot to get it. Logged into Xbox One for the first time in about 5 or 6 days and seen that it was taken down.

18-02-2017 01:13AM

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Their success with backwards compatibility has shown that at the very least, they're willing to commit resources to getting the most out of the system. The fact that they've managed to get an emulator, to run games coded for a different platform, running at performance levels better than the original console, is something they don't get half enough credit for.

You look at how far virtualisation technology and hardware has come in the last 10 years it's no surprise. It's just more telling that Sony don't want to make use of it. If they wanted I'm sure they could run ps2/3 games on ps4, they can do it through an over priced glorified rental service so why not on the console with an emulator? Theres an emulator running on the server they ain't streaming from a networked ps2 thats for sure.

shuffles03 · 18-02-2017 08:11AM

Has anyone revisited GTA IV? What are your thoughts? Im afraid of wrecking my memory of it

Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

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