Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

PARlance wrote: »

Interesting point. Personally, I would put it down to the fear of making a mistake. It really crept into your game last year and it is there in other teams but I think it's heightened with you because there's a strong squad and a few mistakes could mean starting an AI final or not.

I think you came back to the (small) pack last year as a result of this but you had enough to stay ahead. You were a far more dangerous / better team the year before.

Yup agreed .. there was very little goal threat for a team that was carving out 5-6 good goal chances a game the previous 2-3 years. I personally think that the influence of Jason Sherlock and the basketball type screening to get the correct shooter in position has a lot to do with it

DoctaDee wrote: »

Yup agreed .. there was very little goal threat for a team that was carving out 5-6 good goal chances a game the previous 2-3 years. I personally think that the influence of Jason Sherlock and the basketball type screening to get the correct shooter in position has a lot to do with it

Since we lost to Donegal in 2014 we have scored 45 goals in 34 games between Championship & League. Other than scoring 11 goals in 3 Leinster Championship games in 2015 our goals record is pretty poor.

DoctaDee wrote: »

Different times I know, but harping back to the 2013 SF with Kerry I can think of McAuley, COS, Bernard having goal chances within the 1st 15 minutes of that game - I'm struggling to think of one in last years match ..

Aidan O'Mahony played a sweeper and Kevin McManamon dropped deep meant Kerry had 2 extra defenders. Philly had chance in first half other than that there was no goal threat. I would like to see Emmet O'Conghaile tried in at Full Forward. Has a good set of hands and strong in the air. O'Gara for height and strength doesn't play as a traditional target man.

Gael85 wrote: »

Since we lost to Donegal in 2014 we have scored 45 goals in 34 games between Championship & League. Other than scoring 11 goals in 3 Leinster Championship games in 2015 our goals record is pretty poor.

And if we finished any of the goal chances we had against Donegal in the first 20 minutes we likely would not even be having this discussion

Agree with all said on here

DoctaDee wrote:

Gas isn't it .. the Cork loss in 2010 was our most satisfying defeat - what a ...kin day will still rank as one of the greatest atmospheres I've ever enjoyed at a game. They could and probably should've won that day - but with the memories of Kerryx2 and Tyrone still fresh in the mind it was a honourable defeat.

I hated that loss, simply because it seemed inevitable. It's why I can never get into rugby, it's that same feeling, but there have been great days.
The Irish soccer team, I've always enjoyed watching them bar the euro's in Poland, and when they eventually lose , it's not bad so long as it's a big team and we got stuck in.

But I have never, ever felt satisfied having lost to Cork.

Mainly in football, but the annoying thing in the hurling recently was that we've had a real chance to beat them in the championship twice and it wasn't taken, what's it now 9 or 10 championship games in a row ?

My best memory of Sherlock was sticking the goal in 1995, what was the name of the guy marking him who slipped? McGrath? he said in the papers before "we haven't seen him get up after been hit properly yet"

It's a special rivalry, Cork and Dublin. It's funny but Cork have that with a few Counties, as do Dublin and Meath. Being successful in both codes would drive that I guess.

I've a picture in my hall of Rock scoring against them in 1983. No other GAA picture just that, I wasn't even there.

I remember that championship game when Dinny Allen and Keith Barr were at it and Barr was sent off and they beat us that day too.

All that said that 2010 Cork team was the best Cork football team in my memory. Only winning one AI must haunt them. I don't think they knew what they had.

PARlance wrote: »

Interesting point. Personally, I would put it down to the fear of making a mistake. It really crept into your game last year and it is there in other teams but I think it's heightened with you because there's a strong squad and a few mistakes could mean starting an AI final or not.

I think you came back to the (small) pack last year as a result of this but you had enough to stay ahead. You were a far more dangerous / better team the year before.

Jayzus, thanks for that Captain Obvious !

Last year, our All Star full back was off in New Zealand. Our 2015 Footballer of the Year was off doctoring in Ethiopia. Our marquee forward (and another nominee for 2015 Footballer of the Year,) was having an off year. Davy Byrne and John Small were parchuted into our defence, having never starting a senior championship game before in their lives.

You try coping with just one of those things, instead of all of them, in the same year and, let's see how you get on.

And when Kilkenny was a half forward!!

Gael85 wrote:

Mark O'Connor was the Cork fullback that slipped when Jayo scored that goal in 95

That's it. I remember him now I knew McGrath was wrong.
I knew it was a typical run of the mill name


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PARlance wrote: »

Ha, you dealt with the blows in defence fairly well. But joking aside, a win can cover up a lot of cracks and you were there for the taking at the end of last year and nobody really expected that at the start. I think you regressed by letting that fear / conservatism / playing to suit others system's into your game. That's not a pop, you were still the best team by a bit, but the door was opened when it shouldn't have been.

Kilkenny was the epitome of that for me. He went from causing defenders nightmares to causal strolls (ok I'm putting the troll in stroll there) around midfield. And he was getting rave reviews for it, so it wasn't obvious to everyone captain

I disagree that no one really expected it, at the start of the year. Go back to this time last year (or whenever it was that Jack Mc announced he was taking a year off) and his and Rory O'Caroll's absence were highlighted by a lot of people, as two key holes that would be impossible to over come, in both our attack and defence.

You don't have to defend your pov on CK to me. He wreaked my head last year, with all his slow lateral hand passing. I could see a method in the madness, against the likes of Donegal, but not as a full time thing. I hope to God we've seen the end of it, when we get the full panel back.

I think Jim Gavin went over the top with the conservatism last year. Ok, we won Sam. The man knew what he was doing. But the tactics totally stymied our offense to an unnecessary degree imo........... and Jesus H. Christ, it was bloody hard to watch ! :mad:

Ok, I'm starting to sound like Pat Spillane now. :eek: Ofta bed !

You would never think Dublin are going for a three in a row and five out of seven and five leagues in succession reading some of the posts here.

2014 was big wake up call. Got turned over. People laughing at them again.

Well, there's no-one laughing now. Haven't lost a game since and won't this year.

ProudDUB wrote: »

I disagree that no one really expected it, at the start of the year. Go back to this time last year (or whenever it was that Jack Mc announced he was taking a year off) and his and Rory O'Caroll's absence were highlighted by a lot of people, as two key holes that would be impossible to over come, in both our attack and defence.

You don't have to defend your pov on CK to me. He wreaked my head last year, with all his slow lateral hand passing. I could see a method in the madness, against the likes of Donegal, but not as a full time thing. I hope to God we've seen the end of it, when we get the full panel back.

I think Jim Gavin went over the top with the conservatism last year. Ok, we won Sam. The man knew what he was doing. But the tactics totally stymied our offense to an unnecessary degree imo........... and Jesus H. Christ, it was bloody hard to watch ! :mad:

Ok, I'm starting to sound like Pat Spillane now. :eek: Ofta bed !

I think the GAA dropped him a few quid to take it easy on teams - to make the Championship seem a bit more interesting and open. Hence the introduction of the conservatism.

corny wrote: »

Thank Jesus. He took a risk though playing on after he felt the twinge. I saw him over by the Hogan jogging with a limp, but still jogging. 5 minutes later he was being carried off by two medics. "You ****ing eejit McCarthy its only a league game" was my first thought.:D

Yeah what was more worrying for the last few minutes was his position covering the space in front of the FB, the chap could barely stand and he was been asked to mind the house

I had to smile at the ticketing situation up in Breffni. You bought a ticket at the office and brought it to the turnstile - the ticket was like a receipt, the office ran out of receipts so the turnstile people brought the redeemed receipts back to the office to sell again - there was well over 20k in the ground, and a nice earner

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Hopefully they change it to Killarney. That is where i am staying lol!

I reckon they could easily hit 16-18,000 for this match. Most will use it as an opportunity for a long weekend with St Patrick's day on the Friday.

Is Killarney a bigger stadium?