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Scotland vs Ireland, 4th Feb 2017, Murrayfield, 2:25, RTÉ 2

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  • #902
    awec
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    spiralism wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    They'll be coming in already crowned and will get a bonus point win to seal the grand slam

    If you continue with this nonsense you will be banned. Nobody has any interest in reading pages of doomsday rubbish. We lost one game.


  • #903
    BBDBB
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    Killergreene wrote: »
    And they will pump us raw in front of our own fans and president. Mickey D better get used to walk off the red carpet because that is going to be one muck filled day

    They made Mary walk on the grass, the bastards!


  • #904
    walshb
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    Nift wrote: »
    Keep your head in the sand so.

    Wtf has this got to do with the vitriol?


  • #905
    its_phil
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    noc1980 wrote: »
    This loss is down to nothing but mentality. You need a bit of arrogance to dine at top table with the All Blacks. This Irish side talked Scotland up like they were world beaters all week. You won't find Eddie Jones and the English doing that. They'll say all week they're going to smash the Scots and they'll do just that. That going out on a limb that they are doing leaves no room for them being sound asleep like we were in the first half. They thrive in the pressure they put on themselves but we take the safer option of predicting dog fights that we inevitably get dragged in to.

    I'd probably put it down to that Jackson/Heaslip penalty than intangible measurements like mentality in a one score game


  • #906
    swiwi_
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    Is there a case to be made for VDF starting?

    I think Stander and SOB is a bit samey on attack. POM is no better. None of those lads off-load too much.

    Think Ryan might find himself straight back into the 2nd row.

    We see what Schmidt does in the backs I suppose he'll revert to Trimble ahead of Earls.

    There is some good news: Italy is next, so the train can be put straight back onto the rails.


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  • #907
    CatFromHue
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I don't want to single out one number but there's no justification for selecting Tommy Bowe anymore. At his age unless you're considerably better than a younger player you need to be phased out.

    Was Zebo injured coming off?

    I thought he looked a bit slow chasing that ball back just before he came off.


  • #908
    Peregrine
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    Nift wrote: »
    No regular posters have pointed out anomlies like Bowe selection. This is a disaster.

    Read more closely. No regular poster supported it.


  • #909
    Akrasia
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    awec wrote: »
    We're going to need to pick up a try bonus point against Italy now.

    We should expect nothing less.

    I'm not convinced that France won't beat England today.

    We had an awful first half, but that was partially because the Scots threw everything at us and in the 2nd half they were spent. Ireland won't win a grand slam, but our championship is still alive.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #910
    shootermacg
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    We were flat, Leinster or Munster might have won that match.
    As a munster fan, I was surprised how much ground Scotland were making in contact and how passive our defense was. Payne was really missed in the centre. Scannell should have come on for Best at 60. Bowe's been ordinary for a long time now.


  • #911
    irishbucsfan
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    spiralism wrote: »
    It's hardly baseless though is it? This was an absolute disaster by any account

    But particularly disastrous for accounts who only appear when Ireland are struggling


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  • #912
    Nift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭Nift


    awec wrote: »
    If you continue with this nonsense you will be banned. Nobody has any interest in reading pages of doomsday rubbish. We lost one game.

    This is a bad day. Terrible performance. Whats wrong with what he said?


  • #913
    Esto Fidelis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Esto Fidelis


    All the talk about Joe's team and not the typical ireland style of play grating now. winning in November was brilliant but not backing it up today shows we are still not in the league of the top teams. We had a golden generation a few back and underachievied. I hope this does not happen again. Sexton will be talked about a lot and he was a massive loss so we new to work on Joey now.


  • #914
    Nift
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    But particularly disastrous for accounts who only appear when Ireland are struggling

    Ib...its guys like you who are probably worse for boards. If u dont think this is a shambles and a result of poor selection tactics and form well you are delusional.


  • #915
    Tom.D.BJJ
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    Bottlers. ****ing bottlers


  • #916
    Stheno
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    Teferi wrote: »
    Jaysus. Scotland celebrating like they won the Slam. Not the mentality I would like to see if I was a Scottish fan.

    In fairness they've not won their opening match in the 6N for 11 years I think.


  • #917
    Peregrine
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    Nift wrote: »
    Ib...its guys like you who are probably worse for boards. If u dont think this is a shambles and a result of poor selection tactics and form well you are delusional.

    It's possible to do that without being hysterical.

    Lots of things to be criticised but let's not get the pitchforks out.


  • #918
    swiwi_
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    As an aside, what is it with a lot of posters turning on Schmidt and the lads?

    You lost. It happens to all teams. It's not the end of the world.


  • #919
    Sean Kinsella
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    We should expect nothing less.

    I'm not convinced that France won't beat England today.

    We had an awful first half, but that was partially because the Scots threw everything at us and in the 2nd half they were spent. Ireland won't win a grand slam, but our championship is still alive.

    I'm glad you feel that way, I don't share your confidence, unless we learn how to 1) tackle and 2) take chances.


  • #920
    Rightwing
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    Steve wrote: »
    It was a great game of Rugby, I agree.

    Was hoping Joe's half time talk would do more - his strength is identifying weaknesses & holes in the opposing team. Looked like he got something at the start of the 2nd half but just wasn't enough.

    It's hard to clawback such a big lead away from home. But there certainly was a vast improvement in the 2nd half. But you must also be able to identify your own weaknesses, and there certainly was a failure here, most notably the lineout.
    We have a lot to do, but there were some positives, we scored 3 tries.


  • #921
    JPCN1
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    Disastrous start and lack of composure when we took the lead. Thought the Scots were up too fast on many occasions and a small dink over the top from time to time would have kept them honest. Line out was a shambles and Best will not be pleased with his contribution.


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  • #922
    thomond2006
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    Nift wrote: »
    This is a bad day. Terrible performance. Whats wrong with what he said?

    Because insufferable butthurts just turn up when Ireland lose to have a go.


  • #923
    Vaughn Gentle Roadway
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    As an aside, what is it with a lot of posters turning on Schmidt and the lads?

    You lost. It happens to all teams. It's not the end of the world.

    BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT

    we EXPECTED to win.


  • #924
    Nift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭Nift


    The players are not bottlers. Listen to Horgan. Schmidt is at fault here. Our tactics would make top 14 teams blush. Our fear of the offload leads to heaslip incident. Support runner was looking for ruck not ball. Its gone beyond a joke now and that side of game is all down to Joe.


  • #925
    topmanamillion
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    Teferi wrote: »
    Jaysus. Scotland celebrating like they won the Slam. Not the mentality I would like to see if I was a Scottish fan.

    Bit like the Ireland teams celebrations after beating New Zealand B in a friendly in Chicago.


  • #926
    BBDBB
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT

    we EXPECTED to win.

    Tell him we beat the All Blacks as well, tell him!


  • #927
    ClanofLams
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    Esto Fidelis wrote: »
    All the talk about Joe's team and not the typical ireland style of play grating now. winning in November was brilliant but not backing it up today shows we are still not in the league of the top teams. We had a golden generation a few back and underachievied. I hope this does not happen again. Sexton will be talked about a lot and he was a massive loss so we new to work on Joey now.

    Paddy Jackson had a decent game. Irelands problems had little to do with him


  • #928
    awec
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    Nift wrote: »
    This is a bad day. Terrible performance. Whats wrong with what he said?

    We lost one game, the very first game. This rubbish about England strolling to a championship and a bonus point win 7 weeks from now is just that, complete rubbish. England haven't even played a minute of rugby yet this tournament.

    We have no interest in having to wade through it all on here. If you want to sit and wallow in self pity and eternal negativity on the back of one bad performance go find another forum where such miserable circle jerking is allowed.

    Now, back to discussing the match with some level of objectivity please.


  • #929
    Too Tough To Die
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    A national disgrace. Shame on them.


  • #930
    BBDBB
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    ClanofLams wrote: »
    Paddy Jackson had a decent game. Irelands problems had little to do with him


    I'd agree, in fact much of our comeback in the second half was inspired by Paddy


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  • #931
    ClanofLams
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    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    A national disgrace. Shame on them.

    Are you ok? Genuine question...


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