Scotland vs Ireland, 4th Feb 2017, Murrayfield, 2:25, RTÉ 2

04-02-2017 05:26PM

Scotland clinical. Ireland scrappy.

What a bizarro first half and final ten minutes.

Ach well, I suppose I'll have to get my ABE jersey out.

Teferi · 04-02-2017 05:26PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

Commiserations Teferi.

I've learnt never to tempt fate...

As I said - eventually they'll be right. 17 years later a few pundits might be vindicated.

FACECUTTR · 04-02-2017 05:26PM

What is with almost every player looking for contact instead of space !!

paddyref · 04-02-2017 05:27PM

Mistake to take O'Brien off,should have been Heaslip to go he's too much of a luxury player when the sh*t hits the fan, we needed to get Stanmer on the ball more with aggressive ground making carries.

edgecutter · 04-02-2017 05:27PM

ClanofLams wrote: »

The overreactions on here are extreme! England will have a big challenge in Dublin

Need a serious improvement. We looked one dimensional and seemed to lack any ideas on how to break down a mediocre Scotland. God knows what England will do if we can't get a hold of ourselves.

And anyone who thinks Scotland will do anything in this championship needs a reality check. We were ****e and they just got over the line.

Rightwing · 04-02-2017 05:27PM

noc1980 wrote: »

Nah, we're going to hear how great Scotland are now. Forgetting the fact they let a 21-5 lead slip. They are awful. Italy will still be targeting them as their best chance of a win.

They aren't great, but I was impressed at how they responded when down 21-22, lesser teams wouldn't have been able to get the momentum back. Only a begrudger would deny them that.

1eg0a3xv7b82of · 04-02-2017 05:27PM

Today yet again shows Schmidts biggest weakness, loyalty.
kearney and bowe are finished at this level but Schmidt does not see it.

the irish squad needs complete overhaul, today proves heaslip, obrien, toner, earls and best have nothing to offer.
they had their great days but they are finished at international level.

But sadly schmidt wont drop the players I named above because Time waits for no man unless Schmidt picks the team.

Clegg · 04-02-2017 05:28PM

Heaslip.

2016 World Player of the Year nominee.

Luxury player.

04-02-2017 05:28PM

Nathanael Great Kangaroo wrote: »

Today yet again shows Schmidts biggest weakness, loyalty.
kearney and bowe are finished at this level but Schmidt does not see it.

the irish squad needs complete overhaul, today proves heaslip, obrien, toner, earls and best have nothing to offer.
they had their great days but they are finished at international level.

But sadly schmidt wont drop the players I named above because Time waits for no man unless Schmidt picks the team.

Probably our best back today!

awec · 04-02-2017 05:28PM

We're going to need to pick up a try bonus point against Italy now.

Akrasia · 04-02-2017 05:28PM

Ah, the 6 nations, when the rugby forums get invaded by the eamon dunphy types... It's a special time of year

Sean Kinsella · 04-02-2017 05:28PM

aled wrote: »

That is not fair. What is fair is that the strategy of bulldozing your way to a win is a muck strategy. We need to define who we are, our style of play.

TBF the Rugby League playbook is a default favourite of ours (has been for a while) and usually ineffective.

The back line pretty much tried the same few moves all match and the lack of creativity was shocking.

Mantis Toboggan · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

Beat new Zealand??...

Can't even beat Scotland.

Disaster

Nift · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

walshb wrote: »

There is some serious d1ckhead posts on this thread. We made mistakes. It happens. Scotland played very well. We broke our balls to win and it didn't work out. Some of the vitriol posted here is disgraceful. All posted by wasters sitting on their arses. Heads up lads. 4 games to go. We were up against 16 men today away from home.

Keep your head in the sand so.

letowski · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

spiralism · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

ClanofLams wrote: »

The overreactions on here are extreme! England will have a big challenge in Dublin

:rolleyes:

They'll be coming in already crowned and will get a bonus point win to seal the grand slam

04-02-2017 05:29PM

Akrasia wrote: »

Ah, the 6 nations, when the rugby forums get invaded by the eamon dunphy types... It's a special time of year

It's possible to be a genuine barstooler AND poster at the same time.

Technology is amazing.

aled · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

and honestly Joe, tommy Bowe. Really

Utopia Parkway · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Probably our best back today!

Akin to being the tallest pgymy in the village today.

Scottie99 · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

About time Scotland!! I've been in Ireland &#55356;&#56814;&#55356;&#56810; for 14 years, been on the end of many a ribbing. Mondays gonna a be a great day at work &#55356;&#57289;&#55356;&#57289;&#55356;&#57289;

noc1980 · 04-02-2017 05:29PM

This loss is down to nothing but mentality. You need a bit of arrogance to dine at top table with the All Blacks. This Irish side talked Scotland up like they were world beaters all week. You won't find Eddie Jones and the English doing that. They'll say all week they're going to smash the Scots and they'll do just that. That going out on a limb that they are doing leaves no room for them being sound asleep like we were in the first half. They thrive in the pressure they put on themselves but we take the safer option of predicting dog fights that we inevitably get dragged in to.

Richard Hillman · 04-02-2017 05:30PM

Horrible Rugby.

The 2019 World Cup is a write off. I do not see how we have even remotely addressed the issues of 2015

Peregrine · 04-02-2017 05:30PM

spiralism wrote: »

:rolleyes:

They'll be coming in already crowned and will get a bonus point win to seal the grand slam

Do you remember 2011?

thomond2006 · 04-02-2017 05:30PM

I don't want to single out one number but there's no justification for selecting Tommy Bowe anymore. At his age unless you're considerably better than a younger player you need to be phased out.

Steve · 04-02-2017 05:30PM

Rightwing wrote: »

Think Irl were the better team, but Scots played smarter. Cotter won his battle easily. But we have to congratulate the Scots.

We showed in the 2nd half what a good side we can be. Lineout is a serious worry now though. POC, can you make a comeback?

Overall I felt rugby was the big winner today, seriously entertaining game, just hugely disappointing that our GS hopes are gone so early.

It was a great game of Rugby, I agree.

Was hoping Joe's half time talk would do more - his strength is identifying weaknesses & holes in the opposing team. Looked like he got something at the start of the 2nd half but just wasn't enough.

BBDBB · 04-02-2017 05:30PM

We got exactly what we deserved. Our first half was full of errors
At crucial times and in crucial places we made dumb mistakes, whilst the scots worked hard as a unitdefensively and took every chance we gave them

I'm disappointed but we didn't do enough to win and given the expectation that hurts
Only beer can soothe my pain

spiralism · 04-02-2017 05:31PM

Akrasia wrote: »

Ah, the 6 nations, when the rugby forums get invaded by the eamon dunphy types... It's a special time of year

It's hardly baseless though is it? This was an absolute disaster by any account

Nift · 04-02-2017 05:31PM

Akrasia wrote: »

Ah, the 6 nations, when the rugby forums get invaded by the eamon dunphy types... It's a special time of year

No regular posters have pointed out anomlies like Bowe selection. This is a disaster. A poor 6 nations and 2019 might be under Erasmus

Sean Kinsella · 04-02-2017 05:31PM

Peregrine wrote: »

Worst. Post. Ever.

Not really, I'm wondering what more some of these players have to offer.

Revising recent history is fine, but look at the scoreboard.

Clegg · 04-02-2017 05:32PM

Second half was a massive improvement. There was a change in defensive alignment and we shut Scotland down and allowed them only 6 points in the half.

I just can't get over how bad we were in the opening half. The management and the players will be tearing the asses off each other.

Scotland vs Ireland, 4th Feb 2017, Murrayfield, 2:25, RTÉ 2

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