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Dairy chit chat II

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  • #1112
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,750 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Is it just one quarter or all 4?

    I would tube her for a few days in one quarter. I used just milk her as normal and feed the milk to the calves but they sometimes get an infection in that quarter so I tube for safety now.
    2 back quarters, very slow milking her as she keeps getting blocked up


  • #1113
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    whelan2 wrote: »
    2 back quarters, very slow milking her as she keeps getting blocked up
    I'd be inclined to give her a course of antibiotics, maybe an injection rather than tubes, to keep the quarters scc low.

    Would she have got kicked by another cow or something around the shed seeing as it's two quarters bleeding?


  • #1114
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    It's totally irrelevant unless put in context, feed brought on to farm. It's only part of a picture. If this was presented without back up its irrelevant. That's what happening here, pissing contest

    The pissing contest is good craic though. How can it be manipulated? I think it's a much better measure than milk recorded results. I didn't get what Stan and mj were on about initially. In combination with a full set of farm accounts you have a real picture of your farm performance.


  • #1115
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    If it was a pillar document for a loan application, it's fairly easily manipulated
    It was looked for off me 2 years ago and seen as more relevant than a pm ,and that came from my bank .stock can be manipulated (converted to beef stock for a while)but why bother ,coding no one only yourself .


  • #1116
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Outside of Ireland a lot more than grass going in ,a lot more meal ,maize .tmr etc etc .ebi is for Ireland to deluever fertile cows that produce a large chunk of there milk from grass ..you speak of 600 kg ms herds .there is a very small miniority producing those figures ,equally so 500 kg plus .iirc you milk all year round ,what's your 6 week in calf rate ,how long is your breeding season ,calving interval for herd ??

    6 week calving rate will be 75% this year, with 92% calved in 12 weeks, ai/bull in all year round but any cows not holding the 12 week block that have issues like feet/temperment/low yielders are culled , simply like to have 10-12 late calvers to keep lactose up when milking over winter, calving interval is 380 days but again the few late calving ladies are pushing it up....
    Cull rate this year will be 15% and the aim is to keep it at this level


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  • #1117
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    ..you speak of 600 kg ms herds .there is a very small miniority producing those figures ,equally so 500 kg plus.

    If the discussion group legs and myself are in is anything to go by there will be plenty of herds over 500 in a very short time. Mainly spring calving and a lot of them would be very close to 500 if not above it if they didn't dry off so abruptly in the Autumn. Some very compact calving herds in the group hitting very good solid outputs from low concentrate inputs.


  • #1118
    Keepgrowing
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    The pissing contest is good craic though. How can it be manipulated? I think it's a much better measure than milk recorded results. I didn't get what Stan and mj were on about initially. In combination with a full set of farm accounts you have a real picture of your farm performance.

    My point exactly only part of the picture. That report without other info is meaningless


  • #1119
    mf240
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    If the discussion group legs and myself are in is anything to go by there will be plenty of herds over 500 in a very short time. Mainly spring calving and a lot of them would be very close to 500 if not above it if they didn't dry off so abruptly in the Autumn. Some very compact calving herds in the group hitting very good solid outputs from low concentrate inputs.

    Won't know until I get the report in the post as I can't access the online version. But we will be up around 550 with all calves reared on farm. We're pure Messers with some cows milking for a couple of years and way to much meal being fed and even some topping done every year.

    I would have a good head for figures and would always struggle to take statistics or reports seriously .


  • #1120
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Family of cows in the calving pen tonight
    A grandmother, 2 of her daughters (full sisters - one entering 1st lac others her 3rd)! and a daughter/great grand daughter entering her 1st lactation aswell

    Put a smile on my face when I discovered it


  • #1121
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Family of cows in the calving pen tonight
    A grandmother, 2 of her daughters (full sisters - one entering 1st lac others her 3rd)! and a daughter/great grand daughter

    Put a smile on my face when I discovered it

    Bulls come and go but good cow families are far more important.


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  • #1122
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Bulls come and go but good cow families are far more important.

    Definitly. We lost a lot of families here with different issues we had. Lovely to see them resurrecting themselves


  • #1123
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Lovely to see them resurrecting themselves

    Prolonged, protracted and persistent. Like any family you wouldn't want to mess with.😉


  • #1124
    farisfat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭farisfat


    stanflt wrote: »
    56% 1st or second lactation cows

    That must be one of the top performing herds in the country


  • #1125
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


    Boring I know, but I just hate inaccuracies in the press. This morning one is on the Irish Independent

    http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/strathroy-not-ruling-out-a-southern-dairy-35409612.html

    Referring to the amount of milk truck trips across the border, the author comes to a total of 32000 daily....

    Assuming 2 day collections, the truck returning empty, and cows averaging 28l per day, it would take 7.5 million cows to keep up that flow of milk......na..


  • #1126
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    stanflt wrote:
    56% 1st or second lactation cows


    Why so much Stan? New herd in your own name or are the older ones not lasting or being sold on for a good price and keeping younger stock?


  • #1127
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    Why so much Stan? New herd in your own name or are the older ones not lasting or being sold on for a good price and keeping younger stock?

    Or, Stan has discovered the Dorian Gray gene and is giving it a thorough testing before changing the world of Irish Dairy Genetics once and for all....


  • #1128
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    stanflt wrote: »
    56% 1st or second lactation cows

    Fair dues good report and I'm only using it to make a point about these reports, not to bore holes in yours. I've been on your farm so know it's fact.

    Just by way of yesterday's discussion regarding the relevance of this report. To the reader it reads fantastic but

    are the cows being fed 1.5 to 2 tonne meal

    How much grass

    How many days grass

    Is this a high input winter herd.

    Stan knows the answers but I'm wondering if anyone else could ascertain if this is a profitable herd. It's a top performing herd, no doubt.


  • #1129
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    alps wrote: »
    Boring I know, but I just hate inaccuracies in the press. This morning one is on the Irish Independent

    http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/strathroy-not-ruling-out-a-southern-dairy-35409612.html

    Referring to the amount of milk truck trips across the border, the author comes to a total of 32000 daily....

    Assuming 2 day collections, the truck returning empty, and cows averaging 28l per day, it would take 7.5 million cows to keep up that flow of milk......na..

    I'd imagine that figure includes trucks Carrying the finished product,cartons of milk and the like


  • #1130
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


    OverRide wrote: »
    alps wrote: »
    Boring I know, but I just hate inaccuracies in the press. This morning one is on the Irish Independent

    http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/strathroy-not-ruling-out-a-southern-dairy-35409612.html

    Referring to the amount of milk truck trips across the border, the author comes to a total of 32000 daily....

    Assuming 2 day collections, the truck returning empty, and cows averaging 28l per day, it would take 7.5 million cows to keep up that flow of milk......na..

    I'd imagine that figure includes trucks Carrying the finished product,cartons of milk and the like

    Not a chance, just badly researched...or badly understood.


  • #1131
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    alps wrote: »
    Not a chance, just badly researched...or badly understood.

    32k annually? Someone used the quote a little too liberally


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  • #1132
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,750 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    If strathroy were to set up in the south where would they be?


  • #1133
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    Anywhere really


  • #1134
    whelan2
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    OverRide wrote: »
    Anywhere really

    Was thinking about it. If they set up in the south east they would be big competition to glanbia


  • #1135
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Has anyone one used the 'sure seal' teat sealer from norbrook?
    We used it on all the spring ladies and from the bunch calved so far none have had any sealer in the teat.

    Anyone finding the same?


  • #1136
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Fair dues good report and I'm only using it to make a point about these reports, not to bore holes in yours. I've been on your farm so know it's fact.

    Just by way of yesterday's discussion regarding the relevance of this report. To the reader it reads fantastic but

    are the cows being fed 1.5 to 2 tonne meal

    How much grass

    How many days grass

    Is this a high input winter herd.

    Stan knows the answers but I'm wondering if anyone else could ascertain if this is a profitable herd. It's a top performing herd, no doubt.

    Any chance you'd stick up yours for comparison of two completely different systems done well?


  • #1137
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Has anyone one used the 'sure seal' teat sealer from norbrook?
    We used it on all the spring ladies and from the bunch calved so far none have had any sealer in the teat.

    Anyone finding the same?

    We used it on some cows but dunno which ones, all more or less had sealer so far, although it's tinged pink in colour. Possible the ones we gave it too haven't calved yet tho


  • #1138
    atlantic mist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Has anyone one used the 'sure seal' teat sealer from norbrook?
    We used it on all the spring ladies and from the bunch calved so far none have had any sealer in the teat.

    Anyone finding the same?

    ya im finding the same here there didnt seem to be a lot in the sealer in comparison previous ones used


  • #1139
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,853 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Strathroy would surely position themselves where they would not be situated in the middle of any other processors catchment area. It would be semi neutral and readily accessible eg, off a motorway.


  • #1140
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Hi All,

    I was wondering if many here measure grass? I recently bought a plate meter but believe there is a formula required to calculate accurately. The plate meter is a F200


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  • #1141
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Hi All,

    I was wondering if many here measure grass? I recently bought a plate meter but believe there is a formula required to calculate accurately. The plate meter is a F200
    Have a read of this thread, there are some posts about the formula to use.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057691891


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