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Lock, Stock and Chitchat a Seacht

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    rangler1 wrote: »
    People capable of earning big salaries away from farming probably aren't farming, do you think that the rest are going to change for an average industrial wage,
    There's people going to Dublin from around here at 5.30 in the morning to work for very simple money and will come to their senses when the depreciation on their car comes home to roost.
    My point was that getting out just because your subsidy is your income should be optional.
    My sheep keep my farm cross compliant and my Farm income/ subsidy ratio has been 50/50ish for the last number of years so not really defending my own position here
    I have family doing the Dublin thing, though they do it because the wages are substantial enough in their profession.
    How many farmers have a bps large enough to provide the average industrial wage, hell even minimum wage for the the hours worked?
    The way subs are dropping though, would you be comfortable to be putting the business in a state of unprofitability when there are other options others wouldn't have in a similar situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    I have family doing the Dublin thing, though they do it because the wages are substantial enough in their profession.
    How many farmers have a bps large enough to provide the average industrial wage, hell even minimum wage for the the hours worked?
    The way subs are dropping though, would you be comfortable to be putting the business in a state of unprofitability when there are other options others wouldn't have in a similar situation.

    You're spinning it now, you declared everyone that isn't making anymore than their subs should get out and stop expecting someone else to fund your hobby.
    No more than dairy farmers protected sector, We are entitled to take advantage of a stupid system put in place by the EU.
    If someone has enough to live on from subsidies they'd be a fool to change to busier enterprise to build net worth or some other reason because the next generation will tell you exactly where to stick the farm if as you say they're getting a substantial enough salary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭naughto


    I no for a fact if I was left ( not going to happen) a small farm I'd do enough just to get the grants one full time job is enough
    No need to start another full time job when u get home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Whelan2 is that you powerwashin on the new Calor advert?☺


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    Was out for a cycle today..... saw a scarecrow in a corn field ............ ............ except it was wild bird cover...... :D ...........Thought t'was kinda funny.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    rangler1 wrote: »
    You're spinning it now, you declared everyone that isn't making anymore than their subs should get out and stop expecting someone else to fund your hobby.
    No more than dairy farmers protected sector, We are entitled to take advantage of a stupid system put in place by the EU.
    If someone has enough to live on from subsidies they'd be a fool to change to busier enterprise to build net worth or some other reason because the next generation will tell you exactly where to stick the farm if as you say they're getting a substantial enough salary.
    What spin, am i wrong to saying someone shouldn't waste their time farming if they can't generate a profit from farming activity only what subs can be created to fudge wto rules? These are being eroded further in the long term to even out with eastern europe etc,etc... It generates a little security from the pandering of someone in europe to what ever direction they go post brexit.
    Circumstances dictate for most they are already unviable if Teagasc are to be listened too. Is there many farms in receipt of payments bringing them to the industrial wage? I would suspect there is only a fraction of total farms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    What spin, am i wrong to saying someone shouldn't waste their time farming if they can't generate a profit from farming activity only what subs can be created to fudge wto rules? These are being eroded further in the long term to even out with eastern europe etc,etc... It generates a little security from the pandering of someone in europe to what ever direction they go post brexit.
    Circumstances dictate for most they are already unviable if Teagasc are to be listened too. Is there many farms in receipt of payments bringing them to the industrial wage? I would suspect there is only a fraction of total farms.

    That's why I say you're spinning, all that isn't the discussion, my point is it's up to the people themselves what they want, not for you to tell them to get out.
    Huge proportion of farmers are over 55 and most, like myself have very little notion of retraining and working for someone,
    You all know I seriously question why young educated people are choosing farming,.... i'd say they do too. So I'm well aware of the future(or lack of) in farming
    No point carrying this discussion on as we seem to be on different tracks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow



    On the 100km thing - how would you enforce that? Does such a rule exist anywhere else?

    Doesn't exist anywhere that I know of but you'd just get the retailer / premises to do it. They collect VAT and have to deal with all kinds of oddities, hot food, takeout, coffee with food etc. - it's just part of self declaration.

    They also have to have comprehensive traceability already, so I don't think it would be impossible to do. I'm not suggesting it would be easy either!

    It wouldn't suit the big food aggregators / distributors who want freedom to buy anywhere at a given moment for lower prices while selling on a homogenous product.

    And you are right, there would never be political will. But I don't think it's healthy to whinge all the time (as I am apt to do) without throwing the odd idiotic suggestion into the mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Anyone able to name this tree?
    Cypress?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Might be lelandi any chance of a close up of the leaves?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,378 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Whelan2 is that you powerwashin on the new Calor advert?☺
    Too busy for powerwashing at the minute.... only getting breakfast now, big mug of coffee needed today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Might be lelandi any chance of a close up of the leaves?

    I didn't think of getting one. They'd be scale like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Anyone able to name this tree?
    Cypress?

    Think blue is correcrt, leylandi or whatever it's called. They grow enormous if left to themselves.
    Had a tumultuous weekend, calf got a navel infection so had to nurse him again. If the fúcker actually lives he'd better be a good one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭A cow called Daisy


    Maybe this has been asked in the Trump posts (and I'm sorry if it has), but I was wondering if I could put up a fence along a mearning/boundary hedge and get my neighbour to pay for it. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Maybe this has been asked in the Trump posts (and I'm sorry if it has), but I was wondering if I could put up a fence along a mearning/boundary hedge and get my neighbour to pay for it. :D

    Only if their sheep are breaking in.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Maybe this has been asked in the Trump posts (and I'm sorry if it has), but I was wondering if I could put up a fence along a mearning/boundary hedge and get my neighbour to pay for it. :D

    Is your neighbour Mexican by any chance? :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭A cow called Daisy


    Is your neighbour Mexican by any chance? :-)

    Not sure, but he often says 'Jésus, that son of mine has no interest in the land'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    If you have 10mins spare, what happens when you reply to spam. :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Uc-cztsJo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭148multi


    Don't mention golf or Europe might block your /your neighbours wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    rangler1 wrote: »
    What spin, am i wrong to saying someone shouldn't waste their time farming if they can't generate a profit from farming activity only what subs can be created to fudge wto rules? These are being eroded further in the long term to even out with eastern europe etc,etc... It generates a little security from the pandering of someone in europe to what ever direction they go post brexit.
    Circumstances dictate for most they are already unviable if Teagasc are to be listened too. Is there many farms in receipt of payments  bringing them to the industrial wage? I would suspect there is only a fraction of total farms.

    That's why I say you're spinning, all that isn't the discussion, my point is it's up to the people themselves what they want, not for you to tell them to get out.
    Huge proportion of farmers are over 55 and most, like myself have very little notion of retraining and working for someone,
     You all know I seriously question why young educated people are choosing farming,.... i'd say they do too. So I'm well aware of the future(or lack of) in farming
    No point carrying this discussion on as we seem to be on different tracks
    Im in UK 90% of the time working. Most of the lads on my gaa team are farmers sons etc who are over trying to earn a few pound to expand etc. The majority of their fathers are late fifties, early sixties and talk about succession etc is almost weekly amongst them. Most of them all want to rear children in a farming environment etc but are all saying they are going to struggle at home in a rural environment when they are earning decent money as engineers, construction managers etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Im in UK 90% of the time working. Most of the lads on my gaa team are farmers sons etc who are over trying to earn a few pound to expand etc. The majority of their fathers are late fifties, early sixties and talk about succession etc is almost weekly amongst them. Most of them all want to rear children in a farming environment etc but are all saying they are going to struggle at home in a rural environment when they are earning decent money as engineers, construction managers etc.

    They are mad to go over earning money to expand a farm that wont give much financially back.
    We have a reasonably sized farm here that always supported at least two families but can't keep mine alone going now. I could go farming fulltime but there would be huge cutbacks for the family
    Partime farming and keeping a fulltime job aint easy either and family time suffers
    I agree with rangler on this one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    T


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    T

    Milk no sugar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,688 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    ganmo wrote: »
    Milk no sugar

    The same....Ta


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Bullocks wrote: »
    They are mad to go over earning money to expand a farm that wont give much financially back.
    We have a reasonably sized farm here that always supported at least two families but can't keep mine alone going now. I could go farming fulltime but there would be huge cutbacks for the family
    Partime farming and keeping a fulltime job aint easy either and family time suffers
    I agree with rangler on this one

    Maybe proper investment now would allow an efficient farm to be easily ran part time and still meet family commitments. Getting suitable work close to remote rural farms is also a challenge, that needs to be thought of when investing now.
    If your only suitable work will be an hour away there would be no point setting up serious dairy or suckler facilities.

    More and more farms are going to go part time, it's the only way they will exist and stay with family ownership. It's going from subs keeping farms afloat to subs AND lads working off farm to keep farms afloat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    _Brian wrote: »
    Bullocks wrote: »
    They are mad to go over earning money to expand a farm that wont give much financially back.
    We have a reasonably sized farm here that always supported at least two families but can't keep mine alone going now. I could go farming fulltime but there would be huge cutbacks for the family
    Partime farming and keeping a fulltime job aint easy either and family time suffers
    I agree with rangler on this one

    Maybe proper investment now would allow an efficient farm to be easily ran part time and still meet family commitments. Getting suitable work close to remote rural farms is also a challenge, that needs to be thought of when investing now.
    If your only suitable work will be an hour away there would be no point setting up serious dairy or suckler facilities.

    More and more farms are going to go part time, it's the only way they will exist and stay with family ownership. It's going from subs keeping farms afloat to subs AND lads working off farm to keep farms afloat.


    A lot of the lads seem to say their parents have not invested enough during their time. poor fencing etc which they are slowly sorting as they go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    A lot of the lads seem to say their parents have not invested enough during their time. poor fencing etc which they are slowly sorting as they go.

    Its that way here too, could have kept soil index's alot better instead of always spreading CAN and fencing is piss poor but I couldnt justify borrowing or taking off farm money to spend things up. The weanlins are going to have to work harder than me haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    The flywheel on my Passat went kaput yesterday . Im in Northern Ireland so too far from hom to attempt to nurse it home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭White Clover


    The flywheel on my Passat went kaput yesterday . Im in Northern Ireland so too far from hom to attempt to nurse it home.


    You're correct not to. Them vags are known to punch a hole in the box if it gives in completely .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    The flywheel on my Passat went kaput yesterday . Im in Northern Ireland so too far from hom to attempt to nurse it home.

    walsh motors belfast, are vw specalists & very competitive price wise,

    if suited might be an option if convenient,

    (no connection personally but info from good source)


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