Dairy chit chat II

3 the square · 27-01-2017 04:30PM

sold a fr cull cow today in the mart dry since july ment to be calveing before Christmas showed up empty
she was tick fat weighted 705 made €958
good price??

visatorro · 27-01-2017 05:56PM

3 the square wrote: »

sold a fr cull cow today in the mart dry since july ment to be calveing before Christmas showed up empty
she was tick fat weighted 705 made €958
good price??

someone sold culls for 750 not too long ago. so prob not, tis money in the bank now anyway!

cute geoge · 27-01-2017 06:09PM

3 the square wrote: »

sold a fr cull cow today in the mart dry since july ment to be calveing before Christmas showed up empty
she was tick fat weighted 705 made €958
good price??

It is hard to say without seeing the cow ,if she was bellyish lucky to k.o. at 44%.While if she was young tight cow she might k.o. at 48%

freedominacup · 27-01-2017 06:57PM

OverRide wrote: »

Yes but how do you know if the new person standing isn't useless too?
Most of the candidates I've seen are council member wannabes who're already at the trough getting their free holidays flying business class at our expense to mar dhea visit a plant in the states
What we need more in the CoOp to be honest is transparency and binding democratic reviews of performance with consequences
We won't get that for the very reasons you state though,farmers are too busy and boy are those in charge riding that

Stand yourself. I have a mate on the council and he knows how he's regarded. Wears the fact that his table for the dinner is almost out in the hall as a badge of honour. People with an interest in representing the members in their area is what is needed. If it's as bad as you say in your area it should be an easy canvass for you to get in your local advisory committee. Get a couple more like-minded people in your area to stand as seats come up and change the council member and then go to work on the board member. No point in bitching from the sidelines.

kowtow · 27-01-2017 07:10PM

OverRide wrote: »

Yes but how do you know if the new person standing isn't useless too?
Most of the candidates I've seen are council member wannabes who're already at the trough getting their free holidays flying business class at our expense to mar dhea visit a plant in the states
What we need more in the CoOp to be honest is transparency and binding democratic reviews of performance with consequences
We won't get that for the very reasons you state though,farmers are too busy and boy are those in charge riding that

If all it takes is a kick in the hole to get Glanbia to pay the same as Barryroe then I would have thought you'd want to be a very busy farmer to pass up that 3/4c per litre.

But I'm not sure that is the whole story. Surely product mix has a lot to do with it. In the meantime people absolutely should stand up and hold management to account, and if not at least just ask clearly worded calm questions. And keep asking until you get a straight understandable answer.

OverRide · 27-01-2017 07:41PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Stand yourself. I have a mate on the council and he knows how he's regarded. Wears the fact that his table for the dinner is almost out in the hall as a badge of honour. People with an interest in representing the members in their area is what is needed. If it's as bad as you say in your area it should be an easy canvass for you to get in your local advisory committee. Get a couple more like-minded people in your area to stand as seats come up and change the council member and then go to work on the board member. No point in bitching from the sidelines.

Thanks for the vote of confidence but,I'm a bit too long in the tooth for that at this stage
I'm also already on a board,ones enough:)
I don't think it's bitching from the side lines,I just wish as you do ,more leaders not sheep or trough lovers would get involved
Challengers rather than yes men in for what they can get out of it

kowtow wrote: »

In the meantime people absolutely should stand up and hold management to account, and if not at least just ask clearly worded calm questions. And keep asking until you get a straight understandable answer.

It took me a while to reply due to laughing at the fact that questions might be answered from the top table to the Hoi poli shareholders
Freedoms comment on the dinner seating arrangements speaks volumes

kowtow · 27-01-2017 08:02PM

OverRide wrote: »

It took me a while to reply due to laughing at the fact that questions might be answered from the top table to the Hoi poli shareholders
Freedoms comment on the dinner seating arrangements speaks volumes

Believe me they will answer if the right questions are asked the right way.

freedominacup · 27-01-2017 09:07PM

kowtow wrote: »

Believe me they will answer if the right questions are asked the right way.

I dunno kt. You've obviously never been at one of these info meetings. First thing we need to do at the next round of info meetings is to get hold of a mic early in the q&a and propose on a point of order that questions be answered singly and directly by the person being questioned. No more of this crack of taking questions in batches and by the time the pertinent question that really requires an answer by the board rep is gotten round to, anything up to twenty minutes after it was asked, people have completely forgotten the question and said board rep answers whatever suits him from the suite of previously prepared answers the pr coaches have spent the day schooling him on. You'd be amazed at how far you'd have to go to get your question asked nevermind answered.

freedominacup · 27-01-2017 09:29PM

Last of the Mar/Apr calves and the carryovers to next Autumn up to 18.5l this collection. They're leaving more money after concentrate costs than they were last June. The spring ones will be dry over next ten days.

kowtow · 27-01-2017 10:03PM

freedominacup wrote: »

I dunno kt. You've obviously never been at one of these info meetings. First thing we need to do at the next round of info meetings is to get hold of a mic early in the q&a and propose on a point of order that questions be answered singly and directly by the person being questioned. No more of this crack of taking questions in batches and by the time the pertinent question that really requires an answer by the board rep is gotten round to, anything up to twenty minutes after it was asked, people have completely forgotten the question and said board rep answers whatever suits him from the suite of previously prepared answers the pr coaches have spent the day schooling him on. You'd be amazed at how far you'd have to go to get your question asked nevermind answered.

Sounds like a good start.

You can use the AGM as well if you want to question as a shareholder.

If you can't get a sensible question answered directly, after a few attempts, buy a big lump of space on the bottom right hand corner of the front page of the local newspaper (it's cheap enough nowadays) and ask it again, quietly and reasonably, in 48point heavy black type.

Sillycave · 28-01-2017 10:19PM

Have some reseeded ground that got heavy enough coat of slurry on the 16th Jan, covers were high enough but a lot of dead material, just wondering would some weanlings in early March clean it up good enough or would it be better to put cows out on it to clean down, hoping to get silage off it so want to clean it well

Signpost · 28-01-2017 11:50PM

I'd be going in with cows and strip fencing to make them clean it out in 12 hour blocks that early in the year, be a balls to redden it up if your going taking silage off it.
*I'm in heavy ground thou*

Sillycave · 29-01-2017 12:59PM

Signpost wrote: »

I'd be going in with cows and strip fencing to make them clean it out in 12 hour blocks that early in the year, be a balls to redden it up if your going taking silage off it.
*I'm in heavy ground thou*

Thanks signpost...was thinking cows alright but will depend on weather as one third of the field would be soft enough but the rest would be fine

Signpost · 30-01-2017 10:27AM

Would ye all change the liners in the parlour for the spring? I done a full change of rubber in October so not sure is it worth doing it again now? In the past would have always changed them

kowtow · 30-01-2017 10:44AM

Signpost wrote: »

Would ye all change the liners in the parlour for the spring? I done a full change of rubber in October so not sure is it worth doing it again now? In the past would have always changed them

wasn't that one of the suggestions in the journal last year for saving money... along with cold wash water, milking with the lights out and rolling bales downhill into the feed passage??

Thankfully normal service has resumed and they are back to tutoring us how to borrow money for big steel buildings.

Signpost · 30-01-2017 11:01AM

Ha luckily enough I'd missed that article. Was always a no brainer before but there is no cracks etc and no where near 2000 milkings so not sure what to do this time around

kowtow · 30-01-2017 11:03AM

Signpost wrote: »

Ha luckily enough I'd missed that article. Was always a no brainer before but there is no cracks etc and no where near 2000 milkings so not sure what to do this time around

Well I probably change once a year, and we would not have gone 2000 milkings in that time as OAD & small herd - but I think the advice is time or milkings whichever comes first.

Keepgrowing · 30-01-2017 11:12AM

Signpost wrote: »

Would ye all change the liners in the parlour for the spring? I done a full change of rubber in October so not sure is it worth doing it again now? In the past would have always changed them

I won't as the heifers can be hard on them. Once they start to settle we'll change them

Buford T. Justice XIX · 30-01-2017 12:02PM

Signpost wrote: »

Would ye all change the liners in the parlour for the spring? I done a full change of rubber in October so not sure is it worth doing it again now? In the past would have always changed them

I'll have to change mine this week. Yesterday was the first milking since the end of November and, when I checked the liners, about a third of them had perished. It's my first time coming across so many being perished. They are Milkrite liners, btw.

I'd normally wait till March because of the older liners being softer on heifers teats but no such luck this year.

mf240 · 30-01-2017 01:10PM

kowtow wrote: »

wasn't that one of the suggestions in the journal last year for saving money... along with cold wash water, milking with the lights out and rolling bales downhill into the feed passage??

Thankfully normal service has resumed and they are back to tutoring us how to borrow money for big steel buildings.

That and pick your favourite child and send him or her to college. Teach the others how to reverse a lorry and lift heavy stuff safely.

kowtow · 30-01-2017 04:02PM

mf240 wrote: »

That and pick your favourite child and send him or her to college. Teach the others how to reverse a lorry and lift heavy stuff safely.

I'd forgotten that one.

Harvest unused organs from the rest etc, leave the wife for a laying hen.

Anything but get a better price for milk!

Sillycave · 30-01-2017 04:56PM

Just see ICBF reports are up, just wondering what was the average for the year for milk solids per cow, just to give me indication of my cow performance, its says on mine 1.09ms/cow
Found it hard to keep protein up this year

whelan2 · 30-01-2017 07:50PM

Sillycave wrote: »

Just see ICBF reports are up, just wondering what was the average for the year for milk solids per cow, just to give me indication of my cow performance, its says on mine 1.09ms/cow
Found it hard to keep protein up this year

1.21 ms/cow, lots of room for improvement there... calving interval for liquid milk herd 389- got 5* for that and average milk price of 31,2 cpl

Signpost · 30-01-2017 07:56PM

1.3 ms/cow (disappointed), 360 days and 27.8 cpl (Kerry top 10% made 28.7 - keeping with their 'top price' guarantee and all that)

blackdog1 · 30-01-2017 08:24PM

Average milk price for the year was 29.32 that includes a small bit of winter bonus.

Haven't got 2016 report yet but should be slightly better than 2015 in which I averaged 530 kg ms per cow delivered not including alot of milk I feed top calves but the calving interval was 421 days which needs to be improved.

mahoney_j · 30-01-2017 08:59PM

1.89 milk solids per cow ,559 kg ms sold ,84% calved in 6 weeks 367 day calving interval
28.56 c per litre milk price .herd ebi 116.ebi dosnt work .........

blackdog1 · 30-01-2017 09:11PM

mahoney_j wrote:

1.89 milk solids per cow ,559 kg ms sold ,84% calved in 6 weeks 367 day calving interval 28.56 c per litre milk price .herd ebi 116.ebi dosnt work .........

Top work mahoney_j. glad the Eb did all the work not you

. That being said I'd like to see how the herds with 230 ebi compared to your lowly 116...id say your way ahead on alot of them especially on Ms.

mahoney_j · 30-01-2017 09:14PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

Top work mahoney_j. glad the Eb did all the work not you . That being said I'd like to see how the herds with 230 ebi compared to your lowly 116...id say your way ahead on alot of them especially on Ms.

Like the auld boy says ,can't beat breeding ,outside of that my system is very simple. Top quality grass ,top quality silage and parlour fty .too ebi herd I think is 183 ish

blackdog1 · 30-01-2017 09:17PM

Top ebi herd is 235..

mahoney_j · 30-01-2017 09:20PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

Top ebi herd is 235..

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