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Hail To The Chief (Read Mod Warning In OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭tigger123


    ricero wrote: »
    Theresa May seems a fantastic diplomat. Lets hope her and the donald build a strong relationship as does Enda when he goes over for paddys day

    She's unable to achieve anything in her negotiations with the EU, so I fail to see how she's a fantastic diplomat. She wanted a soft Brexit but England are being told to lump it.

    I really dont get the impression they know themselves where the UK is going. Wholle thing's a mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    josip wrote: »
    Can somebody please confirm that there's not a sniff of Irish ancestry in Donald Trump and that we'll be spared a visit?

    no thank god,

    cause i hate it when the irish brown nose american presidents


  • Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    With a bit of luck Theresa may actually calm Trump down a bit.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38747979
    Theresa May has told US Republicans the UK and America must "stand up for our interests" but cannot return to "failed" interventionist policies.
    She said the days of intervening in countries to "remake the world in our own image" were over but warned against standing by "when the threat is real".
    She also said the UK and US must "renew the special relationship for this new age" and "lead together, again".
    Mrs May's speech comes ahead of talks with US President Donald Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    With a bit of luck Theresa may actually calm Trump down a bit.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38747979
    Theresa May has told US Republicans the UK and America must "stand up for our interests" but cannot return to "failed" interventionist policies.
    She said the days of intervening in countries to "remake the world in our own image" were over but warned against standing by "when the threat is real".
    She also said the UK and US must "renew the special relationship for this new age" and "lead together, again".
    Mrs May's speech comes ahead of talks with US President Donald Trump.

    Translated - you lick my ass and I'll lick yours !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    why is he insisting on mexico paying for the wall??

    i mean its his idea...so what his reasoning behind it??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,296 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    fryup wrote: »
    why is he insisting on mexico paying for the wall??

    i mean its his idea...so what his reasoning behind it??

    He said it once, people cheered, so he said it again.... Now it's official US policy

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Amidst all the noise today I think the most worrisome was Trump's pick for ambassador to the EU predicting the end of the Euro within 18 months and further disintegration of the Union. While there is nothing new in this kind of chatter, the fact that it's coming from a senior official in the US is troubling.

    While Europe is worried about Russian interference in elections, we should also be concerned about US undermining European democracy and its institutions. It's not like the US doesn't have form in this area.

    The politicians of Europe don't need any help from Russia, USA, or anyone else,to destroy Europe.
    They are doing a bang up job of that all by themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,296 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Lackey wrote: »
    The politicians of Europe don't need any help from Russia, USA, or anyone else,to destroy Europe.
    They are doing a bang up job of that all by themselves.

    What is the purpose of this comment?

    That Europe is screwed anyway, so a little bit of espionage from the new US Russian coalition doesn't matter?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Akrasia wrote: »
    He said it once, people cheered, so he said it again.... Now it's official US policy

    Yeah, but why does he think Mexico should pay for it? And them refusing to cage their own citizens shows a lack of respect to the US?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Yeah, but why does he think Mexico should pay for it? And them refusing to cage their own citizens shows a lack of respect to the US?

    That's the reason. It's a soundbite. It stuck. I actually don't think there's anything of substance beyond that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    If he does come, I expect the numbers protesting will well exceed the lickspittles waving American flags.

    I think there will probably be not inconsiderable protests if Trump visits anywhere in Europe...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I watched all of Teresa May's speech and thought she did great. It was very much the language of diplomacy, it didn't confront Trump or all of his policies directly but it certainly did so indirectly.

    I think she was aiming to remind of what had made America great in the past, their pivotal role in international conflicts, and leave them something greater to aspire to than the present isolationist outlook. She stressed how it was the birthplace of liberal thought and that it's doctrine of equality and freedom for all were internationally admired. I definitely felt she was underlining them as they are under siege right now.

    She directly warned of caution with the Russian relationship, said she hoped for support for small countries feeling threatened by the prospect of Russian invasion (Trump is on record saying "I don't care about Ukraine"), praised NATO, even praised the EU.

    She got a lot in there and it was very well received by her audience. I doubt any of it was what Trump wanted to hear. I think she raised the tone, hopefully her presence will give Trump a taste of politics on a world stage and what might be expected of him, I don't think he's a man who'll be comfortable coming up short in the face of someone more capable.

    He's going to attend a press conference tomorrow after their meeting where he'll have his first taste of the UK press. I imagine it'll be a shock to his fragile ego, they'll certainly be less reverential that the US press core tend to be. It'll be interesting to see how he handles it, so far I haven't seen him confronted on his own level by anyone he couldn't quieten with abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    Can someone tell that to A Little Pony when he regurgitates the same old platitudes for his Dear-ito Leader?

    I doubt there is anything in the script for it. He will return to a default state

    "He won, get over it"
    "I'm just happy to beat liberals"
    "This is why Trump won"
    "Ошибка ответа не найдено"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    That's the reason. It's a soundbite. It stuck. I actually don't think there's anything of substance beyond that.

    I think Trump's internal monologue goes something like this

    Trump internal: Say something random the crowd will like

    Trump external: Make America Great again

    Trump internal: Ooh, they liked that, keep going

    I genuinely think he does not have a strong coherent policy. He's good at reading crowds and saying what he thinks they want to hear. He doesn't actuallyy mean most things and genuinely doesn't remember


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    dudara wrote: »
    I think Trump's internal monologue goes something like this

    Trump internal: Say something random the crowd will like

    Trump external: Make America Great again

    Trump internal: Ooh, they liked that, keep going

    I genuinely think he does not have a strong coherent policy. He's good at reading crowds and saying what he thinks they want to hear. He doesn't actuallyy mean most things and genuinely doesn't remember

    I think he said something like that about drain the swamp. He says something and when people like it he repeats it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Theresa May


    I'll think you'll find....

    This is a welcome fcuking change in policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/business/media/stephen-bannon-trump-news-media.html?_r=0

    Trumps in house neo nazi and white house media isn't happy with the media. I'm assuming he thinks they are completely different. Some might say they are the oldest media website in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    dudara wrote: »
    I think Trump's internal monologue goes something like this

    Trump internal: Say something random the crowd will like

    Trump external: Make America Great again

    Trump internal: Ooh, they liked that, keep going

    I genuinely think he does not have a strong coherent policy. He's good at reading crowds and saying what he thinks they want to hear. He doesn't actuallyy mean most things and genuinely doesn't remember

    I thought that too, that those words were all for the campaign trail and they would be quickly moderated once he was in office but this week would suggest he meant every bit of what he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I think the Republicans are using Trump to push through a lot of items on their agenda that would be pushed through regardless of the president (once it was a Rep president). The Trump/Bannon layer on top though is possibly something they didn't expect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    May:

    Everybody else needs to contribute more to cleaning up the mess we made in the Middle East.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Shia LeBeouf arrested "protesting" Trump's presidency.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Shia is a liberal idiot and a total narcacist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/824734113412345856

    On a tariff on Mexican imports.
    Who wants to go to the US and have to pay more for their margaritas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Mark Dice's videos are good stuff. Teacher shooting at Trump with a water gun screaming die during his inauguration. She posted it on her own Instagram, not smart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Shia LeBeouf arrested "protesting" Trump's presidency.

    ...Madonna, Alec Baldwin, Ashley Judd etc..the list of these celeb liberal fruitcakes is endless really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Shia has a screw loose, but I'd still trust him with the nuclear codes more than I do Donald!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    This thread is really starting to make me wonder about the origin of the term 'white noise'. .. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Huh, the trump fans are again eager to talk about anything but what Trump has been up to today, or his state department senior staff all resigning, or Mexico's president calling his bluff and cancelling their meeting.

    My, what a shocker. None of us saw that one coming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Huh, the trump fans are again eager to talk about anything but what Trump has been up to today, or his state department senior staff all resigning, or Mexico's president calling his bluff and cancelling their meeting.

    My, what a shocker. None of us saw that one coming.

    A bunch of nobodies that no one cares about. Somehow they are very important though. No mention of the guy who tried to burn down a church though. Whatever celebrities are doing is ironically far more important.

    Supposedly someone said Hitler did nothing wrong to Shia. May have had something to do with it. Of course I should point out to some that generally, people view that Hitler did something wrong.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Huh, the trump fans are again eager to talk about anything but what Trump has been up to today, or his state department senior staff all resigning, or Mexico's president calling his bluff and cancelling their meeting.

    My, what a shocker. None of us saw that one coming.

    Ah sure if you can't have a bit of a laugh along the way what's the point in anything?

    In the state department is it not uncommon when a new administration takes over for there to be overhauls - From what I've read it's required they submit letter of resignations? I read here reports of resigning but no reports of Trump's team telling people they were no longer required.

    "Two senior administration officials said Thursday that the Trump administration told four top State Department management officials that their services were no longer needed as part of an effort to "clean house" at Foggy Bottom."

    Greg Starr, director of diplomatic security, also followed through on his planned resignation. He had come back from retirement after the 2012 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi and promised to stay through the end of the Obama administration.
    "This had been on course for over a year," another official said. "He came out of retirement and promised to stay out (of) the administration. If Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders were elected, he would still be retiring."

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/top-state-department-officials-asked-to-leave-by-trump-administration/index.html?sr=twpol012617top-state-department-officials-asked-to-leave-by-trump-administration0652PMVODtopLink&linkId=33814657

    Here's a link to what the State press department said about people leaving.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3HXu_nWYAUfGM_.jpg

    Out with the old, in with the new?


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