Which Irish rugby players are gay?

learn_more · 24-01-2017 10:38PM

mansize wrote: »

gaydar is a myth.

No, gardar is real. It just needs updating every couple of years or so like your smartphone to take into account things like new heterosexual fashion trends.

Swan Curry · 24-01-2017 10:46PM

The last time I remember this topic coming up was when neil francis said that ****e about gay rugby players being better off as hairdessers. At the time I had only been out for about 4 months and wrote an angry post about it. If you're out there neil, I haven't forgotten that, you massive prick.

As much as I'd like to say it's all good because of Nigel Owens and how well handled the Potgieter incident was, it's still insane that professional rugby players are nearly all publicly heterosexual. I'm not surprised in countries that rely heavily on schools to produce players for the obvious reasons but you'd think new zealand would have had an openly gay male pro by now.

also david pocock is cool and good and considering he lives in a country that puts refugees on a prison island in conditions that lead to children attempting suicide pocock being outspoken really isn't the problem

mansize · 25-01-2017 12:03AM

I love David Pocock, I'd give him my colon.

CatFromHue · 25-01-2017 12:23AM

Swan Curry wrote: »

The last time I remember this topic coming up was when neil francis said that ****e about gay rugby players being better off as hairdessers. At the time I had only been out for about 4 months and wrote an angry post about it. If you're out there neil, I haven't forgotten that, you massive prick.

he never said that

what he did say was that there were alot of gay hairdressers and in that in his experience most gay men didn't follow sport. Most, not all.

about 10 or 15 years ago now he also wrote a column about a team mate of his who was gay and how silly it was that he felt he had to keep it a secret. it was in the sunday tribune so it's not possible to link to it but it was actually a very pro gay article and was written a long time before it was in any way popular to write that type of stuff.

FACECUTTR · 25-01-2017 12:25AM

mansize wrote: »

I love David Pocock, I'd give him my colon.

I have never heard it pit like that before and I am sure gonna use it.
Your phrase that is not your colon.

Yeah_Right · 25-01-2017 02:08AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Aussie Ian Roberts was the very first rugby player to come out as gay, way back in 1995.

Apparently it was the worst kept secret in Aussie rugby league beforehand. Pretty much all the other players knew he was gay. I still remember when he beat the crap out of Gary Jack during a game for calling him a ******. It made what McRae did to O'Gara look like a tickle fight.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-01-2017 10:52AM

JupiterKid wrote:

Sexuality of players is nobody's business but it would be great if one or two Irish players came out. Would be good role models for young gay lads interested in the sport.

Sexuality is definitely nobody's business but I think it would be good for young gay lads if some players chose to come out. By any definition rugby's a rugged manly activity and would move away from the camp gay fellas that were the only public gay role models for years - carry on movies etc.

I wonder if the 'rugby banter' is one thing that stops gay lads coming out. We saw a bit of it with Peter o Mahoney-CJ Stander 'kiss and make up' a couple of weeks ago. Rugby is rife with homoerotic banter and bonding rituals. The UK is far more extreme than Ireland (public school stuff). It works on the basis that lads don't want to do that stuff but they 'take one for the team', which is very much in keeping with the rugby ethos in general. I wonder if it would mess with the atmosphere if some of the lads were gay and had a different perspective on kissing a teammate.

I don't think rugby would be hostile towards gay players but coming out might mean not fitting in as well as other teammates for that reason. They could just change the type of banter they get up to but who would argue with how Munster acheive team spirit?

duskyjoe · 25-01-2017 01:02PM

What an uncomfortable thread. I though this was a rugby forum that discussed rugby and not the sexuality or preferences of rugby players. That's for another forum says me. Ridiculous stuff that just draws a sleazy undercurrent.

El_Duderino 09 · 25-01-2017 02:11PM

duskyjoe wrote:

What an uncomfortable thread. I though this was a rugby forum that discussed rugby and not the sexuality or preferences of rugby players. That's for another forum says me. Ridiculous stuff that just draws a sleazy undercurrent.

I thought it was a fairly positive thread. Nobody is having a go at anyone for their preferences or expecting anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

In what way is it sleazy?

Zzippy · 25-01-2017 02:31PM

duskyjoe wrote: »

What an uncomfortable thread. I though this was a rugby forum that discussed rugby and not the sexuality or preferences of rugby players. That's for another forum says me. Ridiculous stuff that just draws a sleazy undercurrent.

The thread is discussing the issue in a pretty mature way. A warning was issued at the very start that any "sleazy" stuff or outing people would not be tolerated. Have you actually read through the thread? If you don't think homosexuality in sport should be discussed, well that's your own issue.

duskyjoe · 25-01-2017 07:54PM

Zzippy wrote: »

The thread is discussing the issue in a pretty mature way. A warning was issued at the very start that any "sleazy" stuff or outing people would not be tolerated. Have you actually read through the thread? If you don't think homosexuality in sport should be discussed, well that's your own issue.

Well Mod, if your happy to accept posts from people like mansize I quote " I love David Pocock, I'd give him my colon" , it's best I leave the room and let you fellas get on with it.

stephen_n · 25-01-2017 08:04PM

duskyjoe wrote: »

Well Mod, if your happy to accept posts from people like mansize I quote " I love David Pocock, I'd give him my colon" , it's best I leave the room and let you fellas get on with it.

I think most people could see that as a joke, if you find someone fancying a player that offensive, then I don't think your issue is the topic but may well be with gay people in general.

CMOTDibbler · 25-01-2017 08:06PM

Is the 'sleazy undercurrent' gone?

mansize · 25-01-2017 10:57PM

I'm still here

eeguy · 25-01-2017 10:59PM

how has no one mentioned this yet?

mansize · 25-01-2017 11:24PM

Reminded me how unfunny ROT was

razorblunt · 26-01-2017 10:43AM

There's a grew cock joke to be made here but I'm not going to make it.

Swan Curry · 26-01-2017 06:22PM

razorblunt wrote: »

There's a grew cock joke to be made here but I'm not going to make it.

woodcock's a lot easier to work into a joke tbh

Trojan · 27-01-2017 04:48PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Apparently it was the worst kept secret in Aussie rugby league beforehand. Pretty much all the other players knew he was gay. I still remember when he beat the crap out of Gary Jack during a game for calling him a ******. It made what McRae did to O'Gara look like a tickle fight.

https://youtu.be/xM4HMgB9aYI?t=4m52s

jacothelad · 28-01-2017 05:34PM

I,d imagine the whole squad will be gay as can be, jovial, lighthearted and pissed as pissed persons if they win the 6ns.

chupacabra · 29-01-2017 01:14PM

You wont find much homophobia in our sport thanks be to god. Nigel Owens, best ref in the world is openly gay and of course its no issue. Could you imagine an openly gay soccer ref at the top level?

Stheno · 29-01-2017 01:26PM

chupacabra wrote: »

You wont find much homophobia in our sport thanks be to god. Nigel Owens, best ref in the world is openly gay and of course its no issue. Could you imagine an openly gay soccer ref at the top level?

I think Nigel has gotten abuse in the past though

29-01-2017 01:32PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think Nigel has gotten abuse in the past though

No doubt he has. I know from attending umpteen Leinster matches I've never heard any abuse towards him for being gay, I think any abuse he's gotten has probably been isolated.

CMOTDibbler · 29-01-2017 02:13PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think Nigel has gotten abuse in the past though

He got abuse in Twickenham during an England v NZ match. I don't think he was aware of it at the time, but spectators who wintnessed it, reported it and two 'fans' got two year bans and fined afaik.

Which Irish rugby players are gay?

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