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Building callouses and chasing goals

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    bluewolf wrote: »
    good luck with them what are you studying

    Thanks!!:D
    Im in a maths degree lol so theyre pretty tough


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Ivory Mushy Teacher


    Maths nerds unite hi 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Maths nerds unite hi 5

    It's not enough I get to hi 5 a fellow math nerd!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Wednesday
    Finally back in the gym, have the exams all finished.

    Just did whatever I felt like doing, knew the technique was going to be really off and it was, my knee hurt a bit as well but I think thats just from sitting down so much lately

    Hang Muscle Snatch
    3x10 30
    Basically cardio...it sucked

    Snatch + Low Hang Snatch
    10x1 50 felt really sloppy

    Power Clean +Power Jerk
    6x(1,2) 70


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Second day back,technique was much better today but my legs were absolutely dead, all my conditioning is gone! :(

    Front Squat
    5x2 100
    Have lost a good bit of weight over the exam period, front squats hurt a lot today,the bar felt like I was sitting on bone

    Snatch
    7x1 70
    went a good bit heavier today,but only did singles as thats all my legs could take after squatting

    Clean and PJerk
    3x1 90
    Would have done but I was fried, the reps i did do were surprisingly good though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Have put in a hard week of training fllowing a 1 week programme, loads of hang snatches and snatches for triples,pulls,squats and clean and jerk complexes

    Weight is back at 71.5, was 74 before exams

    Friday

    Drop Snatch
    5x5 50
    Felt pretty good, better than mondyas drop snatches which were done at 40

    Hang Snatch
    5x3 70
    Missed two reps while standing them up so im not too worried about that. Did a lot of warmup reps and worked hard at keeping the bar close tonight, starting to feel comfortable snatching again

    Snatch Balance
    5x3 70
    Ugh..percentages said 80kg but my elbows said no way, so I stayed at 70

    Deficit Snatch Pulls
    5x5 90
    Standing on 15kg bumpers, these were really difficult


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Wednesday

    Hard session,first day of a new programme and I wasnt doing so well.

    Snatch Balance
    3x3 70
    Felt crisp!

    Hip Snatch+Hang Snatch+Low hang snatch
    (1,1,1)
    2x40
    2x50
    2x60
    (0,1,1)
    5x70
    These went pretty well,couldnt do the hip snatch wat the working weight though,

    Deficit Snatch 1st Pull
    5x5 80

    Back Squat
    8x120
    3x8 100
    Just couldnt squat that day, form was horrendous,I kept twisting standing it up,didnt have the legs either, back squats have really regressed for me

    Pull ups
    3x8


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Ivory Mushy Teacher


    first day of a new program always seems so tough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    bluewolf wrote: »
    first day of a new program always seems so tough

    Takes a while to adjust. I think Im coming down with something though, haven't been feeling well at all since that session


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Ivory Mushy Teacher


    Everyone around me here is dying of some bad cold dose so... good luck and feel better!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Got back to training againyesterday as I finally felt a good bit better. Hard session again, loads of problems with my hip and elbow,hopefull it'll sort itself out in the comin weeks.

    My squat form has also completely deserted me,i cannot back squat properlly right now

    Snatch Balance
    3x3 70

    Snatch hang + Low hang
    5x1 70
    Missed 2 attempts

    Deficit Snatch 1st Pull
    5x5 80

    Back Squat
    3x8 100
    Absolutely terrible

    Pullups
    24 total, done in sets of 3 and 2

    Paloff Press
    3x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    EmcD123 wrote: »
    Got back to training againyesterday as I finally felt a good bit better. Hard session again, loads of problems with my hip and elbow,hopefull it'll sort itself out in the comin weeks.

    My squat form has also completely deserted me,i cannot back squat properlly right now

    One thing I've found out is that anytime I had problems with hips or knee, it affected my squat form in a bad way because I/my body ended up trying to move in a way that allowed a squat but in a way that protectedt he problem, if that makes sense. That's fine but it throws your form off and it feels heavy.

    For example, my knee was sore a while back and when it got to a certain point on the eccentric, I stopped lowering and leaned a little more into it to get to parallel. I didn't realise I was doing it at the time but saw it on the video. Then it made sense why they felt so heavy.

    Tl;dr if your hip is an issue, it might be affecting your squat form in a way you might not notice. Fix the hip and the squat might be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    One thing I've found out is that anytime I had problems with hips or knee, it affected my squat form in a bad way because I/my body ended up trying to move in a way that allowed a squat but in a way that protectedt he problem, if that makes sense. That's fine but it throws your form off and it feels heavy.

    For example, my knee was sore a while back and when it got to a certain point on the eccentric, I stopped lowering and leaned a little more into it to get to parallel. I didn't realise I was doing it at the time but saw it on the video. Then it made sense why they felt so heavy.

    Tl;dr if your hip is an issue, it might be affecting your squat form in a way you might not notice. Fix the hip and the squat might be fine.

    This is definitely whats happening, Im twisting to keep the weight off that hip and its causing all the weight to move over onto the other leg. Im hoping its just a mobility issue created by the amount of inactivity ive had


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    EmcD123 wrote: »
    This is definitely whats happening, Im twisting to keep the weight off that hip and its causing all the weight to move over onto the other leg. Im hoping its just a mobility issue created by the amount of inactivity ive had

    Work the hell of it. Get a ball in there amd inflict some pain on yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Wesnesday

    Had a hard but really fun session. Have crazy doms from it today

    jerk from head
    5x5 45

    Power Clean + Power Jerk
    3x2 90 missed 2 jerks

    Push Press
    4x8 50
    Really really surprised wiht how well these went

    Deficit Clean Pulls
    5x5 110
    trying to stay flat footed for much longer in the pull and to get a more aggressive extension with the hips,felt great here

    Dips
    10x3

    Ab Rollouts
    10x3
    Always get the worst doms from these


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Friday

    Absolutely died on this session

    Drop Snatch
    5x3 50

    Power Snatch+Snatch+OHS
    5x2 (1,1,1) 65
    Actually got pinned on two of the overhead squats,had to drop them because I couldnt stand up out of them

    Deficit Snatch Pull
    5x5 90
    I really like these

    Bulg split squats
    4x8 30

    Reverse crunches
    3x20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Saturday

    Kept forgetting to post this session.It was a pretty decent one but I actually forgot my gearbag so had to lift in flat shoes

    Clean and Jerk
    5x2 80
    Had too almost power the cleans because I dont really have the mobility without the raised heel

    Press in split
    3x10 30

    Front Squat
    4x8 90
    Felt tough but not as awful as previous sessions,back squats remain awful

    RDL
    5x5 110
    Was meant to be 3x10 but my straps were in the gearbag and I couldnt hold onto the bar for more than 5 reps

    Bent over rows
    3x10 50
    Hands were so raw at this point I couldnt go heavy on these


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Monday

    Hard to get this session in, it was the first day back of college and the gym was literally packed, you could barely move, couldnt find the right plates,people walking across you while youre snatching. Kind of dangerous

    Snatch Balance
    2x3 70
    3x75
    2x80
    Felt pretty good but I was too nervous of someone walking under the bar to really push it

    Hip snatch,snatch fak,snatch fbk
    5x(1,1,1) 70
    Got the hip snatches in this week,couldnt do them at the working the last 2 time I did this session

    Deficit Snatch 1st Pull
    5x5 80
    Love deficit pulls,theyre easier than regular ones!

    Back Squat
    4x8 100
    Its still light and feels way heavier than it should but at least this time there was no pain,might be able to start pushing them up in weight soon

    Arms
    Did 3x10 on tricep pressdowns and tricep extensions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Thursday
    Didnt train yesterday as I usually do,had other commitments. so trained today instead

    Jerk from Head
    2x5 45
    3x5 50
    Getting better at these again, dont like them at all though

    Power Clean+Power Jerk
    3x2 90
    Felt really solid,didnt miss any reps this week

    Push Press
    4x8 55
    Surprised I was able to get this weight so easily

    Deficit Clean Pull
    5x5 110

    Dips
    1x10
    2x8

    Ab Rollouts
    3x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Friday

    So many reps in tonights session...actually though I was going to get sick

    Drop snatch
    3x5 50
    These felt really heavy for some reason,not sure why

    Power Snatch+Snatch+Overhead Squat
    (1,1,1)
    4x2 60
    Used hookgrip for these instead of straps so that I could drop and reset after each rep,legs cramp badly otherwise. It destroyed my thumbs though

    Deficit Snatch Pulls
    5x5 90
    Felt really smooth

    Bulgarian Split Squats
    4x8 30

    Klokov Press
    3x10 30
    Nearly died...

    Reverse Crunches
    3x20


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Saturday

    Im not build for doing three sessions in a row. Absolutely died today

    Clean and Jerk
    5x2 85
    Felt heavier than they should but no problems getting the reps

    Press in Split
    3x10 35

    Front Squat
    2x8 100
    2x8 80
    took too long of a break between the second and third set at 100 so had to unload it back to 80 and do two sets

    RDL
    3x10 100
    My hamstrings and glutes were on fire, Ive never actually felt anything on this excercise before

    Bent Over Row
    4x8 60


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Real tough session today, it was mainly made tough by the fact the gym was stuffed well past capacity and has like zero ventilation. There was literally so much moisture in the air that you were soaked within minutes and I had trouble breathing

    Snatch Balance
    3x3 62
    Had to go light enough to be able to get it onto my back myself since I couldnt get near a squat rack

    Hip Snatch+Hang Snatch+Low Hang Snatch
    5x1 70
    Felt smooth, hip snatches were all lats, but I got them all

    Deficit Snatch 1st Pull
    5x5 100
    Expected these to feel heavier than they did,Im pretty okay from a deficit

    Back Squat
    3x8 105
    1x8 110
    The weights are still light but I actually felt like I was squatting properly today.

    Paloff Press
    3x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Wednesday

    Wednesday isnt a bad training day at all,went heavy on pulls,starting to really get into them again

    Jerk from head
    5x5 50

    PowerClean+Power Jerk
    3x2 90

    Push Press
    6x60 (might be a pr)
    3x8 55
    Push press is starting to feel good,I can see pr's coming soon in this

    Deficit Clean Pulls
    4x5 120
    1x5 130
    Felt easy,the 130 was slow though

    Dips
    3x10

    Ab Rollouts
    3x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Last week of this programme, volume was dramatically lowered, squats went brilliantly as a consequence of that

    Snatch Balance
    3x3 70

    Snatch Fak+ Fbk
    3x1 75
    They were a little sloppy

    Back Squat
    8x100
    8x110
    8x120
    8x130 definitely a rep pr
    Felt really good,wore a thin velcro belt for the 120 and 130,helped a good bit on the 130

    Pullups
    32 reps, got 8 in one go at this start

    Paloff Press
    3x10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    What would you say has helped more with getting faster under the bar: snatch balances, drop snatches etc. or 3pos. and hip snatches?

    My snatch misses are identical everytime; I get about 90% through and just can't hold the bar right at the end of the catch. I attribute this to a ****ty snatch balance (75kg is my best, 82.5 best snatch) and just being slow pulling under the bar, but it's probably both. It's damn frustrating as I'm pulling 100-105 to chest height when I do snatch high-pulls, but wouldn't dare attempt close to those weights at the moment.

    Looking at the 87.5 video you posted a few pages back, you look much faster under the bar than me, so I'd like to to know what works for you if you don't mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    My snatch balance and my snatch are identical at 90 but im currently trying to push it up.

    The thing that definitely helped the most was paying a lot of attention to my upper body strength, presses,push presses,pullups etc.. Really helped with the power being put into my lockouts, my leg strength is pretty decent but my upper body lagged very far behind

    Best tip I've ever got though other than the regular ones like staying over the bar more and making sure to finish my extension(which I still have trouble doing) which dramatically increased my speed under the bar, was to rotate my elbows so that they were facing sideways(finding it hard to explain what I mean here) and then to really build tension in my lats. It keeps everything seriously tight and close and really allowed me to punch harder going under the bar.

    Hang snatches are good for it aswell because to lift heavy on them you need to be quick, my hang snatches are only a few kg's off my best snatches.

    Other than that just practice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    EmcD123 wrote: »
    My snatch balance and my snatch are identical at 90 but im currently trying to push it up.

    The thing that definitely helped the most was paying a lot of attention to my upper body strength, presses,push presses,pullups etc.. Really helped with the power being put into my lockouts, my leg strength is pretty decent but my upper body lagged very far behind

    Best tip I've ever got though other than the regular ones like staying over the bar more and making sure to finish my extension(which I still have trouble doing) which dramatically increased my speed under the bar, was to rotate my elbows so that they were facing sideways(finding it hard to explain what I mean here) and then to really build tension in my lats. It keeps everything seriously tight and close and really allowed me to punch harder going under the bar.

    Hang snatches are good for it aswell because to lift heavy on them you need to be quick, my hang snatches are only a few kg's off my best snatches.

    Other than that just practice

    I'm not sure where my upper body strength is in relation to my lifts. Best push press is 90kg, which is awful considering I strict pressed 80kg over a year ago. What's your ratio incidentally?

    I know what you mean about the elbows facing out rather than behind; I've started making an effort to do that. Do you actively squeeze your lats before you initiate the pull? I never really do that, in fact I don't do that for any form of pull either.

    My pull is normally quite straight; bar tends to go in past the knees and out after contact but still falls behind a straight vertical line from the floor which tells me it's not terrible, but maybe tightening my lats more will help. Hang and block snatches are also by far my worst variation as I rely a lot on momentum from the first pull which isn't great, so I'm focusing on them more than full snatches at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    My push press is currently at 75kg, strict is 48. considering I power jerked 115(split is 110) this is quite a long way behind.

    I try my best to actively squeeze my lats the whole way through the pull,my pull off the floor is probably slower because of this though but I feel that doesnt actually hurt the snatch that much.

    I do all my snatch pulls as high pulls or at least attempting to pull as high as possible and I feel that really helps me aswell. For the lat strength in the pull we do a lot of snatch 1st pull drills.

    But a lot of my increases in speed under the bar lately do come from being yelled at by a coach to be faster after every rep, thats probably the best way..:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    EmcD123 wrote: »
    My push press is currently at 75kg, strict is 48. considering I power jerked 115(split is 110) this is quite a long way behind.

    I try my best to actively squeeze my lats the whole way through the pull,my pull off the floor is probably slower because of this though but I feel that doesnt actually hurt the snatch that much.

    I do all my snatch pulls as high pulls or at least attempting to pull as high as possible and I feel that really helps me aswell. For the lat strength in the pull we do a lot of snatch 1st pull drills.

    But a lot of my increases in speed under the bar lately do come from being yelled at by a coach to be faster after every rep, thats probably the best way..:P

    Yeah I'll focus on push presses for strength, and definitely increasing my jerk aswell, considering you're jerking >2x your strict press which is incredible imo. I think timing/more practice which is my problem with push presses and jerks as leg strength isn't an issue for me either.

    Yeah I see loads of lifters who start slow but the 2nd pull flies up. The 1st pull is meant to just put you in the best position for the 2nd pull, so I've heard. I'll try to tighten my lats now though.

    I just have my head roaring at me inside watching recordings of myself after every lift so kinda the same lol. There's also an old german guy who swings by from time to time and shouts stuff at me aswell.

    Cheers for the replies though!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭EmcD123


    Wednesday

    Was having a brilliant session until I got this big pinch in my shoulder doing push presses, think its a slight impingement,stopped training straight ,should be grand for friday though

    PowerClean+Power Jerk
    3x1 100
    Really simple,caught the cleans much higher than usual so thats hopefully a sign of pr's to come

    Deficit Clean Pulls
    5x5 120
    Hard to belive Ive actually cleaned this,it felt so heavy

    Push Press
    8x60 definitely a big pr
    6x60
    had to stop then because of my arm


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