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swampgas · 23-01-2017 12:16AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I would say he has already given it to the relevant authorities. Would it not be in relation the decelerations of business and alike. I would like to see it publicly but then again he does not have to. No point crying over it.

Yeah, who cares what conflicts of interest he might have that would compromise his role as, you know, the president of the USA? He is not Joe Average Citizen. There is a reason why previous presidents felt obliged to release their tax records. There is a reason Trump is not releasing his. And I bet his reasons are YUUUUGE!

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 12:17AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Basically there are three ways of not paying tax. Make a loss, avoid tax or evade tax.

Let's assume that Trump hasn't been making a loss for twenty years (though we know he was set up and bailed out by his father so his track record isn't great).

Let's assume that he didn't evade tax because that is illegal.

Let's assume that he avoided tax using clever accountants to find loopholes.

What do you think of a system that allows extremely wealthy people to pay less tax than a nurse? Do you have any idea why it might matter that the President of the USA should release his tax affairs? Why he should have paid some tax in all that time? Any clue at all?

It's a morally bankrupt act, Not defending it. But if he's done nothing Illegal I Use that loosely. Have no idea why they are fixated on it. It's the American system to blame.

Trent Houseboat · 23-01-2017 12:17AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Laughable on peoples fixation..... Nutters thought Barry was African. Nutters think Trumps tax returns will vindicate their Nutty thoughts.

There is a decades long precedent for releasing tax returns.
Conspiracy theorist nutters, like Trump, only started looking for birth certs when a black man won as an attempt to delegitimise him.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 12:19AM

swampgas wrote: »

Yeah, who cares what conflicts of interest he might have that would compromise his role as, you know, the president of the USA? He is not Joe Average Citizen. There is a reason why previous presidents felt obliged to release their tax records. There is a reason Trump is not releasing his. And I bet his reasons are YUUUUGE!

You have to declare to some Authority in the USA don't you as President elect to check for all this. I fail to see releasing it to a bunch of randomers will do. They would not understand the extremely complex loopholes.

conditioned games · 23-01-2017 12:19AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Basically there are three ways of not paying tax. Make a loss, avoid tax or evade tax.

Let's assume that Trump hasn't been making a loss for twenty years (though we know he was set up and bailed out by his father so his track record isn't great).

Let's assume that he didn't evade tax because that is illegal.

Let's assume that he avoided tax using clever accountants to find loopholes.

What do you think of a system that allows extremely wealthy people to pay less tax than a nurse? Do you have any idea why it might matter that the President of the USA should release his tax affairs? Why he should have paid some tax in all that time? Any clue at all?

It's means the system is broken and needs fixing. From a business and personal point of view it means he is being a good business person by minimising his costs.

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 12:20AM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

There is a decades long precedent for releasing tax returns.
Conspiracy theorist nutters, like Trump, only started looking for birth certs when a black man won as an attempt to delegitimise him.

Did somebody else start that and Trump jumped on the bandwagon?

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 12:21AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

It's a morally bankrupt act, Not defending it. But if he's done nothing Illegal I Use that loosely. Have no idea why they are fixated on it. It's the American system to blame.

Here's why 'they' are fixated on it. It's further proof that The President of the USA is, as you say, morally bankrupt.

Hank Scorpio · 23-01-2017 12:21AM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

What do you think about this administration's blatant lies and whether or not it's a bad sign that they descend to them so rapidly?

If you pick out some of the individual lies I'll go through them and try to answer.

I've answered the one about his tax returns already.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 12:22AM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

There is a decades long precedent for releasing tax returns.
Conspiracy theorist nutters, like Trump, only started looking for birth certs when a black man won as an attempt to delegitimise him.

12 out of what 45 ?

Hank Scorpio · 23-01-2017 12:22AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Did somebody else start that and Trump jumped on the bandwagon?

AFAIK, it was Sidney Blumenthal who started that, a Clinton associate. Images of him in a garb were used to smear Obama in the 2008 campaign.

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 12:23AM

conditioned games wrote: »

It's means the system is broken and needs fixing. From a business and personal point of view it means he is being a good business person by minimising his costs.

Have a little think about what you've just said. Do you think Trump will be fixing this broken system?

conditioned games · 23-01-2017 12:23AM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

You do know the unemployment rate is ~4% right? You do know the GOP's budget which passed 2 weeks ago will add $8tn to the debt right?-(even Rand Paul, a Republican, rightly called that out that bs).

Trump hasn't been in office 2 days yet two of his big plans have already been debunked. Keep listening to the bull****.

A manipulated unemployment rate that bares no resemblance to reality. Long term unemployed that have given up looking for a job are excluded, lowest labour force participation rate in 45yrs and 46million people on food stamps.

Trent Houseboat · 23-01-2017 12:25AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Did somebody else start that and Trump jumped on the bandwagon?

Yeah as far as I he plastered his name all over someone else's work. It's his business model.
He spent years lying about it though and saying that he had really great, the best, most damming evidence that he was about yo release.
Not that he was looking into it, but that he had proof.
He obviously had no proof and was a proven liar, but that didn't stop people believing all his lies the next time he opened his mouth.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 12:25AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Have a little think about what you've just said. Do you think Trump will be fixing this broken system?

Did Barry ?

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 12:27AM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Yeah as far as I he plastered his name all over someone else's work. It's his business model.
He spent years lying about it though and saying that he had really great, the best, most damming evidence that he was about yo release.
Not that he was looking into it, but that he had proof.
He obviously had no proof and was a proven liar, but that didn't stop people believing all his lies the next time he opened his mouth.

I didnt think he took credit for it?

conditioned games · 23-01-2017 12:28AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Have a little think about what you've just said. Do you think Trump will be fixing this broken system?

He wants to create real jobs and get people off welfare. I don't know whether he will tighten up the tax avoidence rules for high earners. I do know that Obama was a failure so lets give Trump a go. Unlike the last president this guy likes to get things done.

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 12:30AM

conditioned games wrote: »

He wants to create real jobs and get people off welfare. I don't know whether he will tighten up the tax avoidence rules for high earners. I do know that Obama was a failure so lets give Trump a go. Unlike the last president this guy likes to get things done.

Are you a performance artist?

conditioned games · 23-01-2017 12:31AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Are you a performance artist?

No

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 12:31AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Did Barry ?

Barry who?

Billy86 · 23-01-2017 12:32AM

Holy sh**, the attempts at deflection and subject changing in here have gone beyond parody at this stage! You'd think if people were so eager to not talk about Trump, that they'd do it in threads other than the one specifically about Trump!? :pac:

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 12:32AM

conditioned games wrote: »

He wants to create real jobs and get people off welfare. I don't know whether he will tighten up the tax avoidence rules for high earners. I do know that Obama was a failure so lets give Trump a go. Unlike the last president this guy CLAIMS HE WILL GET THINGS done.

FYP

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 12:32AM

conditioned games wrote: »

No

Ok.

Trent Houseboat · 23-01-2017 12:34AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

I didnt think he took credit for it?

He was just the face fof the movement when it suited him. No one else was on TV regularly lying about it.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 12:35AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Barry who?

Did Obama ?

Hank Scorpio · 23-01-2017 12:36AM

Germany seems to be going well. Anti Trump protest and they're shouting Allah Akbar

https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/822966907905146881?s=09

BabyCheeses · 23-01-2017 12:36AM

conditioned games wrote: »

Let me guess Putin is evil and he wants to take over Europe so lets put a load of NATO troops in Poland and Romania and build missiles pointing them at Russia in these countries and say your promoting peace

But satanic child raping murderers with hidden clues if you change words is completely normal.

conditioned games wrote: »

Let me guess Putin Trump is evil and he wants to take over Europe so lets put a load of NATO troops in Poland and Romania children. and build missiles pointing them at Russia in these countries and say your promoting peace

I'm on to you!

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 12:36AM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

He was just the face fof the movement when it suited him. No one else was on TV regularly lying about it.

But he's so flimsy with his opinions,you couldnt take anything he says seriously.
I think he flip flops as it suits.

MightyMandarin · 23-01-2017 12:37AM

I swear to god I actually couldn't stop laughing reading this. Sean Spicer has been at war with "Dipping Dots" the supposed 'ice-cream of the future' on twitter since 2010.

http://www.avclub.com/article/trumps-new-press-secretary-five-year-running-feud--248859?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing

https://twitter.com/seanspicer/status/11794196641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Well there you have it folks, after considering some alternative facts, it turns out Dipping Dots is indeed NOT the Ice Cream of the future.

WinnyThePoo · 23-01-2017 12:39AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

AFAIK, it was Sidney Blumenthal who started that, a Clinton associate. Images of him in a garb were used to smear Obama in the 2008 campaign.

If i remember correctly . Your a birth conspirator. You told me it was being taken seriously high up in congress.

How's that going?

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 12:39AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

If you pick out some of the individual lies I'll go through them and try to answer.

I've answered the one about his tax returns already.

I find it worrying that one of the earliest press briefings given by this White House Press Secretary involved a lie that was both blatant and still really petty. Doesn't it show a worrying lack of regard for the truth, their credibility, and honestly their respect for their office. That one was absolutely clear cut. And then it was backed up by Kellyanne Conway talking about "alternative facts"(?! No really what the fcuk. Are we in Wonderland?).

If this is the reaction to comments about the size of his crowds, would you see reason for concern over the reaction to something more important?

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