Why firearms are so strictly controlled in Ireland and UK

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 09:42PM #1

Should be relaxed, let's take a look at our European friends such as Germany and Switzerland, soldiers after serving get to keep their firearms at their homes in Switzerland and it is one of the safest countries in the world. In Germany the rules are strict but it is still possible to own a firearm after all the tests. These are only 2 examples but most other European countries have similar rules where it is actually possible to obtain a firearm. I am not talking about the system like in the USA where in many states you just enter a shop like centra, choose a gun you want and walk out. I would love to be able to shoot watermelons if I want with guns as I find that it is one of the most fun activities you can do which is unfortunately illegal in Ireland, it mostly prevents law abiding citizens from obtaining guns as you can see that it doesn't stop constant gang shootings in Dublin with illegaly obtained firearms.
Also why do we copy everything just from the UK?

AndyBoBandy · 21-01-2017 09:43PM

Guns in the wrong hands are very dangerous.

Shooting watermelons is just wasting good watermelons.

I'm quite happy with the current rules.

stimpson · 21-01-2017 09:44PM

What have you got against watermelons?

brevity · 21-01-2017 09:44PM

Watermelons

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 09:44PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Guns in the wrong hands are very dangerous.

Shooting watermelons is just wasting good watermelons.

I'm quite happy with the current rules.

Most of Europe is doing fine, it's just the United States that have problems as their gun laws are obviously ridiculously relaxed.

HeidiHeidi · 21-01-2017 09:45PM

Where exactly do you shoot these watermelons?

So I know to stay well away.

El Tarangu · 21-01-2017 09:51PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Op - Switzerland has the 3rd highest firearm-related deaths in Europe, precisely because of the fact that soldiers bring their weapons home with them.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 09:57PM

El Tarangu wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Op - Switzerland has the 3rd highest firearm-related deaths in Europe, precisely because of the fact that soldiers bring their weapons home with them.

Why are we doing everything for health and safety, we need a bit of danger in this world, you cannot be protected from everything if that's the case let's ban cars, alcohol and cigarettes as they are huge killers

corner of hells · 21-01-2017 09:57PM

El Tarangu wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Op - Switzerland has the 3rd highest firearm-related deaths in Europe, precisely because of the fact that soldiers bring their weapons home with them.

And water melon casualties?

B.A._Baracus · 21-01-2017 09:57PM

I say keep the current laws in place.
If you started to allow your average Joe blow to buy a firearm there would be more deaths.

You know yourself...

AndyBoBandy · 21-01-2017 09:59PM

Johnboner wrote: »

you cannot be protected from everything if that's the case let's ban cars, alcohol and cigarettes as they are huge killers

Those things are not designed to kill though...

Poor Uncle Tom · 21-01-2017 09:59PM

Johnboner wrote: »

Should be relaxed, let's take a look at our European friends such as Germany and Switzerland, soldiers after serving get to keep their firearms at their homes in Switzerland and it is one of the safest countries in the world. In Germany the rules are strict but it is still possible to own a firearm after all the tests. These are only 2 examples but most other European countries have similar rules where it is actually possible to obtain a firearm. I am not talking about the system like in the USA where in many states you just enter a shop like centra, choose a gun you want and walk out. I would love to be able to shoot watermelons if I want with guns as I find that it is one of the most fun activities you can do which is unfortunately illegal in Ireland, it mostly prevents law abiding citizens from obtaining guns as you can see that it doesn't stop constant gang shootings in Dublin with illegaly obtained firearms.
Also why do we copy everything just from the UK?

Jog on Donald, no market for your guns here.....

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 09:59PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I say keep the current laws in place.
If you started to allow your average Joe blow to buy a firearm there would be more deaths.

You know yourself...

That's what I am saying, require strict vetting before being able to purchase a firearm.

suicide_circus · 21-01-2017 09:59PM

We need mother state to make all our decisions for us

El Tarangu · 21-01-2017 10:00PM

corner of hells wrote: »

And water melon casualties?

A veritable holocaust of smashed cuckoo clocks and spattered seeds.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:00PM

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Jog on Donald, no market for your guns here.....

Did you ever try it? Pretty sure you would change after shooting things yourself, it is an extremely fun and relaxing activity.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:01PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

We need mother state to make all our decisions for us

Should protest to become a direct democracy

Bubbaclaus · 21-01-2017 10:04PM

Johnboner wrote: »

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Jog on Donald, no market for your guns here.....

Did you ever try it? Pretty sure you would change after shooting things yourself, it is an extremely fun and relaxing activity.

Describing shooting as fun/relaxing puts you on a watchlist.

B.A._Baracus · 21-01-2017 10:05PM

Johnboner wrote: »

That's what I am saying, require strict vetting before being able to purchase a firearm.

That works in theory. But not always in reality.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:07PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Describing shooting as fun/relaxing puts you on a watchlist.

Then millions of people around the world tht like shooting are on the watch list according to you. That's the first part of ignorance, condemnation of something that an ignorant person does not understand. Countless videos on YouTube people shooting watermelons and targets or are you understanding shooting people? I guess people see what they want to see not what is actually being said.

corner of hells · 21-01-2017 10:10PM

Johnboner wrote: »

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Describing shooting as fun/relaxing puts you on a watchlist.

Then millions of people around the world tht like shooting are on the watch list according to you. That's the first part of ignorance, condemnation of something that an ignorant person does not understand. Countless videos on YouTube people shooting watermelons and targets or are you understanding shooting people? I guess people see what they want to see not what is actually being said.

I think he might be joking.

cml387 · 21-01-2017 10:12PM

Shooting watermelons is thought to be fun because it's like shooting a head. This tells you all you need to know about gun enthusiast s.

Bicky bicky · 21-01-2017 10:13PM

Will someone please think of the watermelons!

#watermelonsmatter.

listermint · 21-01-2017 10:15PM

What in particular gives you a hard on OP that you can't get from like I don't know a lady?

I mean your username seems a bit fakenews

Miaireland · 21-01-2017 10:18PM

Honest question Op but what is the attraction for shooting a watermelon? You shoot your gun and the watermelon explodes? Honestly does it not get a bit dull? I am a person who doesn't think our gun laws are strict enough tbh but trying to see all views

corner of hells · 21-01-2017 10:19PM

In all my years having a firearms licence , it never once occurred to me to shoot a water melon.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:20PM

Most of you haven't held a gun so how can you condemn something if you have never tried it. Would probably spend days at the firing range after trying it out. This is why our civilization does not advance as people are introduced new concepts they immediately dismiss, condemn or destroy it instead of trying to understand.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:21PM

Miaireland wrote: »

Honest question Op but what is the attraction for shooting a watermelon? You shoot your gun and the watermelon explodes? Honestly does it not get a bit dull? I am a person who doesn't think our gun laws are strict enough tbh but trying to see all views

Watermelon is just an example, targets are fun too, and other fruits.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:21PM

corner of hells wrote: »

In all my years having a firearms licence , it never once occurred to me to shoot a water melon.

But occurred to shoot innocent birds or other animals in Ireland? As I am only aware of hunting licenses in Ireland.

Sonics2k · 21-01-2017 10:22PM

Johnboner wrote: »

Why are we doing everything for health and safety, we need a bit of danger in this world, you cannot be protected from everything if that's the case let's ban cars, alcohol and cigarettes as they are huge killers

That is some of the worst logic I have ever seen.

Johnboner · 21-01-2017 10:23PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

That is some of the worst logic I have ever seen.

If you say so, my son.

Why firearms are so strictly controlled in Ireland and UK

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