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Satriale · 20-01-2017 07:04PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Boyd Barrett was freaking out on Matt Coopers show earlier.

Doubt Trump is too worried about an insignificant waste of space like him though.

Will be interesting to see Enda giving him a pot of shamrock on Paddys Day after calling him a racist last year.

Shur, he can tell him that joke of his about Patrice Lumumba to break the ice.

Little CuChulainn · 20-01-2017 07:05PM

There's a video of a Washington Post reporter being "thrown to the ground" by police. It's like watching someone dive for a penalty in football.

sjb25 · 20-01-2017 07:05PM

Akrasia wrote: »

Calling for 'the hard hand of the law' to crack down on opposition protesters isn't fascist at all.

And neither is violently protesting and assaulting people because they believe in something different than you or a democratic vote didn't go the way you wanted nope not fascist that either is it

Little CuChulainn · 20-01-2017 07:06PM

sjb25 wrote: »

And neither is violently protesting and assaulting people because they believe in something different than you or a democratic vote didn't go the way you wanted nope not fascist that either is it

Nobody said it was. Politics isn't binary you know. There are more than two sides.

Galwayguy35 · 20-01-2017 07:07PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

Of course he will. He would be a prize eejit if he doesn't.

Trump will have no time for Kenny pleading for American investment though.

Don't think for a second that he doesn't know what he said about him as well.

Fleawuss · 20-01-2017 07:08PM

Decode the speech:
Buy American, hire American: protectionism, expel illegals
Radical Islam: Putin goal set as main goal
National interests in foreign policy: green light for agreement with Russia
Infrastructure: Trumps New Deal, could be the game changer and get him re-elected and keep Congress in line with the pork barrel.

namloc1980 · 20-01-2017 07:13PM

BUY AMERICAN, HIRE AMERICAN

HellSquirrel · 20-01-2017 07:14PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Like him or not, the amount of outrage and bitterness here because the election didn't go a certain way is ridiculous. Or is Democracy and freedom of speech only for those who are "on message"??

Says the guy who thinks people don't have the right to disagree.

Let's clear some rubbish up here. The row isn't because it didn't go the way many people wanted. The row is because he's a narcissistic windbag with no plans, only vague aspirations and a "cabinet" (well, a side-table, he's only got 28 out of 690 last I heard) of complete headcases who are amazingly slotted into the positions they have the most loony notions about. And a chance of sorts has been given already in the time between election and inaugeration and so far he has accomplished pissing off his intelligence services, pissing off China, helping to endanger Taiwan (not that the Taiwanese president isn't also pretty responsible for that), sucking up to Russia who, leaving aside the whole election interference which pretty much everyone including Trump himself admits at this point (except one poster in here!), set a dangerous precedent with negotiating in person with individual companies to save jobs in a very piecemeal fashion (and then lying about it), pissed off Mexico, mostly bewildered the UK (Farage is not their ambassador), picked a fight with a freaking theatre troupe and talked about doing away with the medical insurance of some 70,000 people to replace it with something nebulously amazing. And back to his cabinet again for a moment, he's got a genius for picking people with idiot notions and no experience whatsoever (which is probably why they have idiot notions). Oh, and went all anti-vaxxer yesterday because of course he did.

That's not bad going for two months-odd. Point is though, how much of a chance is he supposed to get?

tonycascarino · 20-01-2017 07:15PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Trump will have no time for Kenny pleading for American investment though.

Don't think for a second that he doesn't know what he said about him as well.

Agreed, I am sure he knows which I am also sure Kenny will apologise for. I still think Trump won't hold Ireland to ransom because of an idiot like Kenny though.

BabyCheeses · 20-01-2017 07:16PM

ricero wrote: »

Liberals wiping away their salty tears and insulting the attendance. I suppose little victories ease the pain

Wow, Trump supporters are unhappy with people commenting on small crowds. If only hypocrisy could be harnessed as an energy source. Humanity would advance by thousands of years.

Little CuChulainn · 20-01-2017 07:17PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

BUY AMERICAN, HIRE AMERICAN

He'll be moving production to the US once he eliminates all minimum wage and labour laws.

el diablo · 20-01-2017 07:17PM

"Yes we did" ....... drop over 100,000 bombs on the Middle East in the last eight years.

A Primal Nut · 20-01-2017 07:18PM

Trump signing everything the republicans put in front of him without even reading it. Sign of things to come from the so-called "Political outsider".

HellSquirrel · 20-01-2017 07:19PM

You know, something's been vaguely bugging me but I couldn't put my finger on what. Just figured it out there. When "the left-wing" people in here talk about Trump's particular brand of bat****, they say "Trump supporters" or "the alt-right" (for the most part, I am sure anyone can find the odd example of something else, but there's a pattern.

When said supporters talk about anyone against them it's just "the left" or "liberals" (or ofc libtards or whatever other silly names they've come up with since). There is "Clinton supporters" (or possibly "Bill's Wife's Supporters", because saying her name is like a vampire praying apparently!) and "Bernie supporters", but that's died off a bit.

Anita Blow · 20-01-2017 07:22PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Like him or not, the amount of outrage and bitterness here because the election didn't go a certain way is ridiculous. Or is Democracy and freedom of speech only for those who are "on message"??
Rather than wasting time with insulting the guy, maybe think about the reasons that saw him elected in the first place? They're pretty much the same as those that saw Brexit pass - a message from ordinary citizens who've been increasingly marginalised and disenfranchised by the global economy and a political system that serves itself rather than those who pay for it and who it's SUPPOSED to represent!

The next big "shock" will no doubt be when Merkel loses her seat, or the French presidency.. but it'll only be a "shock" for those who haven't heeded the warning signs above.

For what it's worth, I think Trump is certainly the most unconventional President/leader we've seen in a long time. Whether he'll be able to make good on his promises/threats remains to be seen and will very much depend on how the House and Senate react once the circus of the campaign and inauguration has died down. As for his foreign policy, he's clearly more hard-line (at least on the face of it) than Obama, but then the world has become an uncertain and dangerous place in many cases. Maybe that's what's needed?

In other words folks, respect the vote and wait and see how he actually performs as President. Everything till now (including today) has been for the supporters. It's what happens tomorrow that will define the man and his administration.

Don't really buy this tbh. I despise Hillary Clinton and in general thought both of them were awful candidates, but the suggestion people should quieten down because he is now the president is ridiculous. You can respect the democratic process without respecting the outcome if it truly goes against your beliefs. It's the essence of democracy and it's what drives political opposition to keep the government in check.

This is a man who, based on what he has said and done in the past, is reprehensible. And if you're to ignore that and simply judge him based on just this campaign, he is just as bad. The man who claimed to 'drain the swamp' (which he called his own electorate idiots for believing) has in fact allied himself closely with career politicians like Paul Ryan and has given half of his cabinet positions to Wall St and political donors, which he himself derided Hilary Clinton for.

The same guy promised to retain access to healthcare during his campaign and is now championing the dismantling of ACA without any replacement. The same guy thinks global warming is a chinese conspiracy and now runs an almost certain risk of destroying the environment for decades to come. The same guy's education secretary is the daughter and wife of billionaires, who never attended public school, whose kids never attended public school, who claims none of her relations attended public school, and neither her nor her children have had the burden of college loans, and in a senate hearing had zero knowledge of any federal laws that apply to public schools or what she would do with them. Yet she wants to defund public schools used by the vast majority of the people who elected her president.

From a complete non-American standpoint but as someone who values compassion, trust and civility there is nothing to respect about this guy

take everything · 20-01-2017 07:27PM

Barron with the baba behind.
His overall behaviour is quite interesting.

LuckyLloyd · 20-01-2017 07:31PM

I salute Trump on total ****ing victory. Something utterly magnificent at staring everyone dead in the eye, telling them to go **** themselves and beating their brains out. Being an insufferable **** after really seals the whole thing. I know a winner when I see one ðŸ‘

Little CuChulainn · 20-01-2017 07:32PM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

You know, something's been vaguely bugging me but I couldn't put my finger on what. Just figured it out there. When "the left-wing" people in here talk about Trump's particular brand of bat****, they say "Trump supporters" or "the alt-right" (for the most part, I am sure anyone can find the odd example of something else, but there's a pattern.

When said supporters talk about anyone against them it's just "the left" or "liberals" (or ofc libtards or whatever other silly names they've come up with since). There is "Clinton supporters" (or possibly "Bill's Wife's Supporters", because saying her name is like a vampire praying apparently!) and "Bernie supporters", but that's died off a bit.

That's because you think it's one or the other. There's plenty of people who wanted to see neither Hillary nor Trump in the White House. There's plenty of people who would be considered right leaning that do not want to see Trump in the White House.

Firefox11 · 20-01-2017 07:36PM

take everything wrote: »

Barron with the baba behind.
His overall behaviour is quite interesting.

Yeah, something didn't seem quite right with 'first family' picture there. Can't quite put my finger on it just yet.

Agent Coulson · 20-01-2017 07:40PM

Melania looks like one of the robots from Westworld.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 20-01-2017 07:40PM

The youngest boy Baron really is the image of his father.

Gbear · 20-01-2017 07:42PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Like him or not, the amount of outrage and bitterness here because the election didn't go a certain way is ridiculous. Or is Democracy and freedom of speech only for those who are "on message"??

This is a disingenuous line of argument.

Dissent can't be silenced. It's part of freedom of speech.

You don't roll with whoever gets elected just because they were democratically elected - support of them should hinge on whether they meet your standards.

There's so much wrong with the situation comparing Obama to Trump.
On the one hand, plenty of right-wingers never accepted Obama but now call complaining about Trump "whingeing".

There's oceans of hypocrisy on display.

But more importantly, there was never anything wrong with their dissent in principle. The issue was the nature of it.

Criticism should stand on its own merits.

There was plenty of more hypocrisy, in criticising Obama for failing to be liberal enough and either carrying on policies of the previous, nominally more right-wing administration or taking on new ones that you could expect left-wingers to moan about (but they didn't, of course, because he's on their "team").
There was also a massive load of insane bull**** spouted about Obama.

The first lot of criticisms are fine so long as they're being made for the right reasons, and not just because he's on the other team. The other type were bollocks.
Trump, on the other hand, obviously has enormous failings, but unlike other Presidents, they've been exposed before he got the toughest job in the world, rather than being exposed by the toughest job in the world, like Obama's failings did.

As humans, you can have some sympathy with presidents who are caught out by their environment.
What's Trump's excuse?

The criticisms of Obama before he got elected and the failure to support him from the get-go was largely baseless. While you mightn't have agreed with his political leanings, he had no reason not to be given a fair crack of the whip beyond that kind of policy decision-making.

That is absolutely not true of Trump. He's already proven that he can't be trusted, so it's up to him to take that level of trust out of the red and into the black.

Cartouche · 20-01-2017 07:43PM

The guy has appointed 6 or 7 ex Goldman Sachs guys into his cabinet
How exactly is that "draining the swamp" ?
The working poor who voted him in will be disappointed I think

Ulysses Gaze · 20-01-2017 07:43PM

el diablo wrote: »

"Yes we did" ....... drop over 100,000 bombs on the Middle East in the last eight years.

"Yes we did".......bomb Libya, back jihadists to remove the countries Leader (who we were "friends" with a year before) and thus exacerbate the refugee crisis in Europe.

arayess · 20-01-2017 07:44PM

el diablo wrote: »

"Yes we did" ....... drop over 100,000 bombs on the Middle East in the last eight years.

26000 in the 2016 ....what a guy obama was....

many liberals (and liberal media) allow obama huge leeway whereas a president like bush got none (rightly so bush/blair got lashed for their war mongering ways)
But obama , he's cool..why?
Is it cos he is black and there is some perverse racism afoot?

I think so.

super_furry · 20-01-2017 07:45PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump is just a figure head
He puts right people together and lets them shine
He takes all credit
He will do this as president, it's good way to work

He's already done this and those people he's put together? They work for Goldmann Sachs and petrol companies.

Nevermind draining the swamp, he's pouring extra ****e into it.

Ulysses Gaze · 20-01-2017 07:46PM

"Yes we did"....deport more people than any other president's administration in history.

Woodville56 · 20-01-2017 07:50PM

It's still all a bit "reality show" with Trump - pure theatre and bravdo - make America great and everyone else can pi** off - that's in effect what he's saying. He has yet to learn that no man is an island - even the mighty US of A. Still, looks like it's going perfectly according to Vlad the Russian's script - one day the real America will wake up from its anti establishment stupor and realise the Emperor's got no clothes and Putin's been pulling the strings all along and strengthening his hold in eastern Europe with the acquiescence of America, the jobs for Americans won't have materialised, the inward looking economy will be in a state of flux etc etc - then good old patriotic reactionary America will wake up and tell Donald - ur fired !

Gbear · 20-01-2017 07:51PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

"Yes we did"....deport more people than any other president's administration in history.

One of the annoying thing about tribalism is that leaders are poorer for it. They're not held to account by their own supporters.

It's considered "giving succour to the enemy" and people are too afraid that the enemy will win, so the pragmatism of having two competing cults of personality takes over.

It's the politics of being against your enemy rather than being for any of your own beliefs.

Billy86 · 20-01-2017 07:51PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

"Yes we did"....deport more people than any other president's administration in history.

So you're not in favour of Trump's immigration stance then, I take it?

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