Barrack Obama. So his term as American president is slowly winding down.

Hank Scorpio · 20-01-2017 12:24AM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

If he was a good president, Hillary Clinton would have won in a landslide imo.

"There's one number you will almost never hear: More than 1,030 seats." That sobering number is the total of all of the seats — including Congress, state legislatures, and governorships — lost by the Democratic Party over Obama's two terms.

20-01-2017 12:25AM

A seemingly decent man with a great knack for dealing with other people but a most ineffective president.

Let's see what Donald can come up with.

Permabear · 20-01-2017 12:25AM

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ultra violet 5 · 20-01-2017 12:26AM

the price of gold is about to slump,

any body with gold should sell

mikeoneilly · 20-01-2017 12:31AM

He didn't do much for black people except moan about police brutality

Markx · 20-01-2017 12:31AM

First U.S. president to approve the extrajudicial killing of a U.S. citizen. Increase in the use of targeted drone strikes on his watch. Seems like a nice guy though.

Galway_Old_Man · 20-01-2017 12:31AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Some man to get a Nobel peace prize.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

Yeah but they were 26,171 progressive bombs

I always get a laugh outta this The Onion bit on the finale of Breaking Bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvGCYyZPYPg

pumpkin4life · 20-01-2017 12:34AM

As for Obamacare, it's economically unsustainable and fairly unpopular in the States.

http://www.people-press.org/2016/04/27/more-americans-disapprove-than-approve-of-health-care-law/

How the feck can you have a 25% increase in premiums?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-24/obamacare-benchmark-premiums-to-rise-25-in-sharpest-jump-yet

Mad stuff Ted.

RobertKK · 20-01-2017 12:40AM

Obama had a pretty poor presidency.

Gave the go-ahead to attack Libya, thousands dead and it aided ISIS.
Supported the opposition to Assad in Syria who were anti-secular, which assisted in making a humanitarian crisis worse.
Allowed parts of Iraq to be controlled by terrorists and the same in Libya.
Record breaking arms deals to Saudi Arabia, who attacked their neighbour Yemen, where the Saudi's also helped starve people.
Worse relations with Russia since the cold war.
Managed to lose the Philippines as an ally.
Policies which assisted the migrant crisis in Europe.
A rise in Islamic terrorism in the US.
Black lives matter came into existence during his presidency.
His home city of Chicago with a murder rate much higher.
Really went all in with drone strikes and every Tuesday Obama would personally give the go-ahead on who the drones should kill, which also kill many innocent people.
His government supported a coup against the democratically elected leader of Honduras.
Obamacare costs out of control.
Added $11 trillion to the national debt

Positives with Cuba and Iran.

Overall his presidency was so bad, it allowed Trump to win.

eeguy · 20-01-2017 12:42AM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

How the feck can you have a 25% increase in premiums?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-24/obamacare-benchmark-premiums-to-rise-25-in-sharpest-jump-yet

Mad stuff Ted.

you can ask the car insurance companies here?

Permabear · 20-01-2017 12:42AM

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Jimbob1977 · 20-01-2017 12:48AM

He was a good President, but he could never be the Messiah that some Americans expected.

Economy: B grade. Jobs are being created. Income is still relatively static. Not too bad.

Domestic Affairs: B grade. Affordable Healthcare was always going to be controversial with a minority Congress. The knives were sharpened from the outset.

Race relations remain fragile, but that's not his fault. It's been like that for 400 years. He was never going to solve the country's history of violence.

Foreign Affairs: C grade. The Russians have made a fool of the United States. Big talk about red lines. Not followed through. Putin delivers the 'peace' in Syria. Piecemeal interventions by giving rebels a few quid to have a go. I can't think of a previous president who let Russia strut around. Isolationist like FDR.

Overall..... A safe pair of hands. Good intentions, but hamstrung by lack of power

Sam Kade · 20-01-2017 12:53AM

AMKC wrote: »

Will you miss Obama and what did you think of him as the American president?

I think Obama has been a very good American president he done his best he got America back working after it was left in a terrible state by Bush and the World recession. He also made some mistakes to do. He should have acted on Syria instead of standing back. He is only human do and none of us are perfect we can,t get everything right.
I think its sad his term is coming to on end and as someone in my family said today its a pity that it could not have ran for a 3rd term.

Like a lot of presidents before him he was merely a puppet on a string, did you see the time his teleprompter went on the blink and he was reduced to a stuttering bum that could barely string a sentence together?

Sand · 20-01-2017 12:58AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

a stuttering bum that could barely string a sentence together

You're going to love the next couple of years so.

Sam Kade · 20-01-2017 01:00AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

After the Trump administration I think the dope will canonize Obama just in comparison.

Fixed, he is after all the antichrist.

Zaph · 20-01-2017 01:02AM

He's a good, decent man who had great ambitions for his country when he was first elected, but because of Republican dominated houses for much of his presidency he never got to fulfil many of those ambitions. Consequently I think history will be a little unkind to him and will consider him a somewhat ineffectual president in many ways, which is a shame because he's a very likeable man. It's also interesting to see how 8 years of battling the GOP playing silly buggers has worn him down. He certainly looks like he's aged a good bit more than 8 years during his time in the White House.

jimmycrackcorm · 20-01-2017 01:04AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Fixed, he is after all the antichrist.

Funny you should say that:

https://www.elitereaders.com/nostradamus-predicted-donald-trump-anti-christ-world-war-3/

Sam Kade · 20-01-2017 01:04AM

Sand wrote: »

You're going to love the next couple of years so.

Trump ditched the teleprompter, at least he can talk without it

Sam Kade · 20-01-2017 01:07AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Funny you should say that:

https://www.elitereaders.com/nostradamus-predicted-donald-trump-anti-christ-world-war-3/

Nostradamus didn't predict sh1t, all he did was write gibberish and some clown tried to translate it trying to prove he predicted things that already happened. For instance his translation of the twin towers was two sparrows in a tree that burned :rolleyes:

dresden8 · 20-01-2017 01:08AM

Obama is the drone strike president.

Remote controlled murder.

Wanderer78 · 20-01-2017 01:08AM

feel very sorry for obama, i do think the guy is very genuine and truly tried to change things but as others have said, he was blocked on most fronts. i fear this idiot and his administration thats entering office now, i think we re gonna experience some truly scary stuff globally because of these people.

Itssoeasy · 20-01-2017 01:10AM

I think Obama in time will be judged poorly on lofty expectations when he took office that he could never achieve in reality.

I think him loosing the control of the congress during his presidency didn't help him.

He and the First Lady seem to be genuinely nice people who people were drawn to. Now whether that was a good thing or a bad thing I don't know.

I don't know why a trump will bring. I'm sure Americans are hoping he does a okay job because if he fails then America will go the same way.

Gringo180 · 20-01-2017 01:14AM

Sand wrote: »

I preferred McCain in 2008, .

I stopped reading after that. A world with McCain as president of the United States would be a scary place. The man is a war mongering physchopath.

Permabear · 20-01-2017 01:16AM

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C. Montgomery Gurns · 20-01-2017 01:16AM

Permabear wrote: »

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The vast majority of those in Guantanamo were AQ jihadists who should never have been allowed to see the light of day. The stories most of the Middle Eastern and European captives told about how and why they were on the Afghan- Pakistan border a few weeks after 9/11 are some of the most ludicrous bull anyone has ever come up with- everything from backpacking to bird watching to drug rehab (in a place where a bag of uncut heroin is cheaper than a dinner). The only reason most of them were released was because Obama was weak on the matter, and most of them couldn't be tied to a specific terrorist act/ plot.

He carried out drone strikes and extra-judicial killings of US citizens.

I'd like to hear your solution about how one extradites terror suspects from parts of Yemen and Somalia with no functioning legal system. The drone critics have all the complaints but none of the answers.

Gringo180 · 20-01-2017 01:19AM

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

The vast majority of those in Guantanamo were AQ jihadists who should never have been allowed to see the light of day. The stories most of the Middle Eastern and European captives told about how and why they were on the Afghan- Pakistan border a few weeks after 9/11 are some of the most ludicrous bull anyone has ever come up with- everything from backpacking to bird watching to drug rehab (in a place where a bag of uncut heroin is cheaper than a dinner). The only reason most of them were released was because Obama was weak on the matter, and most of them couldn't be tied to a specific terrorist act/ plot.

I'd like to hear your solution about how one extradites terror suspects from parts of Yemen and Somalia with no functioning legal system. The drone critics have all the complaints but none of the answers.

The key word there being "suspects". Would it be okay to imprison or kill somebody on the grounds of being a suspect of a crime?

C. Montgomery Gurns · 20-01-2017 01:22AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

The key word there being "suspects". Would it be okay to imprison or kill somebody on the grounds of being a suspect of a crime?

Aside from charity workers there was very little reason for pretty much anyone from outside Afghanistan to find themselves on the Afghan Pakistan border from September 2001 onwards. Afghanistan under the Taliban was a wasteland with virtually nothing to lure anyone there for business opportunities. Pretty much every Guantanamo inmate who spun a tale has been found to have been lying through their teeth. Hundreds of them have returned to "active service".

ClovenHoof · 20-01-2017 01:24AM

Mad bomber, murdered thousands, brought in the NSA the most fascistic law in the history of human civilization, but he danced on the Tonight Show so he is great in the eyes the educated simpletons universities have been pumping out for the last few decades.

I would imagine he is a kind of God among academics in UCD and TCD.

OttoPilot · 20-01-2017 01:25AM

I have to chuckle at the amount of people saying racial tensions are at an all time high, do people forget segregation? The civil rights era was pretty tense? Besides, he was left an economic mess, and we all know when the economy is going well people get along much better with people of different races/nationalities/socioeconomic backgrounds. Unfortunately it didn't improve quick enough under him and 'tensions' arose. (Although I still believe the media is exaggerating more and more these days. Murder rates have fallen under Obama and it's lower on average than under Bush).

I think history will judge him very kindly, look at what he followed and is followed by. He is the Reagan of the democrats, some people will always dislike him but he'll have a cult like following too.

Personally, I'll miss him. He was a great role model and family man. I'm disappointed his healthcare reforms failed but unless it's replaced by something better, how big of a failure is that really?

screamer · 20-01-2017 01:25AM

Obama was a great orator, he could sell you anything, but words spoke louder than actions during his presidency. To be honest, watching his last few months and last speech, he seemed like a broken man, and was very resigned before he even resigned.
I think he came to power with his mantra in mind "yes we can", built on the American dream, the first black president of the USA, and I am sure he thought he could do anything he put his mind to, but he soon found that he couldn't and with the lack of majority, he was tied up in knots, the American dream was a steaming dunghill. It now has a new cockrel to stand and crow on it, but the dunghill steams away, the cockrel may think he is cock of the walk, but I think very quickly, his wings will be clipped.

I do think though, the whole world is turning away from "meh" leadership and towards more aggressive forms of leader, so in time, perhaps we will miss his inaction and perhaps even wish it back.

Barrack Obama. So his term as American president is slowly winding down.

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