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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,713 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-38635518

    That Ray Bradbury story "A Sound of Thunder" comes to mind. O.K. so who messed up in the time machine? Hmm? You know who you are... Come clean now. Bigly. This is yuge...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    In a building he has no control over? With CCTV? People really are scraping the barrel now.

    Why would he need control over a hotel? Do you think this is supposed to have been some premeditated hooker trip?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Why would he need control over a hotel? Do you think this is supposed to have been some premeditated hooker trip?

    Probably went down like something from Game of Thrones. After a few vodkas Putin pipes up 'Dear Mr Trump as a token of our appreciation for coming all this way here's 5 beautiful ladies'. Putin walks out of room and Trump acts The Donald.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    In a building he has no control over? With CCTV? People really are scraping the barrel now.

    Why would he need control over a hotel? Do you think this is supposed to have been some premeditated hooker trip?
    So he would know what room has CCTV or not. Why would Trump walk into a Russian hotel and get involved in such muck?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    So he would know what room has CCTV or not. Why would Trump walk into a Russian hotel and get involved in such muck?

    Why wouldn't he? I'd imagine he had to have been pretty drunk to do it. Probably just picked them up in the bar on a whim.

    It seems he's been setting an example to his republican friends anyway.
    In December of 2016, Keyserling engaged in a “political argument” with a woman and allegedly declared, “I love this new world. I no longer have to be politically correct.” As the woman turned to walk away, Keyserling reportedly reach from behind and placed his hand between her legs and pinched on or near her genital area.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    In a building he has no control over? With CCTV? People really are scraping the barrel now.

    Trump knowingly allowed himself to be recorded while boasting about grabbing women by their 'pussies'(against their wishes)... He views himself to be untouchable on a regular basis so yep, it is credible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    In a building he has no control over? With CCTV? People really are scraping the barrel now.

    Trump knowingly allowed himself to be recorded while boasting about grabbing women by their 'pussies'(against their wishes)... He views himself to be untouchable on a regular basis so yep, it is credible.
    No evidence for it at all though. If Trump wanted to play about with strippers, he wouldn't do it in a Russian hotel which he has no control over like I said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    Trump knowingly allowed himself to be recorded while boasting about grabbing women by their 'pussies'(against their wishes)... He views himself to be untouchable on a regular basis so yep, it is credible.

    Not to mention hanging out in dressing rooms. The man thinks he is gold he doesn't care for such frivolous things like being caught. Like water off a ducks back.

    The fact he wasn't in the US probably made the prospect even more appealing. The lad cant see 10 foot in front of him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    No evidence for it at all though. If Trump wanted to play about with strippers, he wouldn't do it in a Russian hotel which he has no control over like I said.

    All his history points to the complete opposite.

    He's managed to portray himself as some smart individual to you. I'm unsure why...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    No evidence for it at all though. If Trump wanted to play about with strippers, he wouldn't do it in a Russian hotel which he has no control over like I said.

    You've claimed he wouldn't do it in a hotel, he has proven to lack any such common sense. Steele is considered credible btw. I actually find the part about Ukraine to be most concerning, as if true. Avoiding the topic of it for another person. In terms of his behaviour about Russia throughout, it's been suspect to say the very least.

    I don't honestly believe he will last very long as president. He has such an incredible amount of conflicts of interest, that more and more will continue to come out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    Thanks to Trump we no longer have to be politically correct. Good to know exactly what his supporters means by that, now they can sexually assault women!

    http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/16/greenwich-town-council-member-arrested-after-political-argument/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint



    Ann Coulter. You can't be serious quoting that.

    Did you buy Katie Hopkins book too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    listermint wrote: »
    Ann Coulter. You can't be serious quoting that.

    Did you buy Katie Hopkins book too?

    Oh because I like someone you don't like, I can't be serious?

    Haven't learned the lesson yet?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    listermint wrote: »
    Ann Coulter. You can't be serious quoting that.

    Did you buy Katie Hopkins book too?

    I couldn't be arsed watching those videos. Though it is hilarious how celebrities coming out against him has ruffled his and his hardline supporters so much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Oh because I like someone you don't like, I can't be serious?

    Haven't learned the lesson yet?


    Like? What are you five.

    Coulter is like Hopkins a popularity troll.

    Its embarrassing to even use something she says to make a point.

    Scarlah as they say in talbot Street


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    listermint wrote: »
    Like? What are you five.

    Coulter is like Hopkins a popularity troll.

    Its embarrassing to even use something she says to make a point.

    Scarlah as they say in talbot Street

    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

    And that's all we have here I suppose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    listermint wrote: »
    And that's all we have here I suppose

    The hypocrisy of celebrities has been surreal. Why should I or anyone else care what they have to say politically? They are rich and living in a bubble compared to the average Joe living in middle America.

    Regardless of your thoughts on Coulter ( I don't agree on all her stances ) it's been nothing short of embarrassing, post election it's got even worse. John Olivier and Colbert I can stomach or at least realize they a liberal audience, but these Celebrities are in another league. The more videos they make, the stronger Trumps support becomes.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    The hypocrisy of celebrities has been surreal. Why should I or anyone else care what they have to say politically? They are rich and living in a bubble compared to the average Joe living in middle America.

    Regardless of your thoughts on Coulter ( I don't agree on all her stances ) it's been nothing short of embarrassing, post election it's got even worse. John Olivier and Colbert I can stomach or at least realize they a liberal audience, but these Celebrities are in another league.


    So you dismiss celebrities for being too rich but Trump can represent the little man?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    So you dismiss celebrities for being too rich but Trump can represent the little man?

    One of the wealthiest cabinets ever from the most questionable areas of business, he's totally about the little man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    So you dismiss celebrities for being too rich but Trump can represent the little man?

    One candidate who's politically corrupt and had a campaign based on no message vs another candidate who's entire campaign was based on the little man.

    Whether he does it or not is another thing, time will tell. From my political standpoint if I was someone who wasn't happy with how things were going, there wasn't much of a choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,445 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    It will be very interesting to see if those on the right believe the unemployment numbers released monthly by the labor bureau or we hear much about labour participation rate over the next 4 years from the same people who rammed it down our throats last 8 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    The hypocrisy of celebrities has been surreal. Why should I or anyone else care what they have to say politically? They are rich and living in a bubble compared to the average Joe living in middle America.

    You're American correct? Nobody cares what celebrities say over here so I'm guessing it's the same over there

    I wouldn't get so worked up about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Planning to put Butyric acid in the ventilation system at a Trump ball before the inauguration, what is wrong with these people? Not against people protesting at all, but this isn't it.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Planning to put Butyric acid in the ventilation system at a Trump ball before the inauguration, what is wrong with these people? Not against people protesting at all, but this isn't it.


    They sound like domestic terrorists. I'd say there is a lot wrong with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,713 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Planning to put Butyric acid in the ventilation system at a Trump ball before the inauguration, what is wrong with these people? Not against people protesting at all, but this isn't it.

    Please don't waste our time with junk from Project Veritas. How often does that group need to be found out as frauds before people stop believing their twaddle?

    If you've got a more reliable source for this information, please feel free to quote it, but Project Veritas are convicted frauds (or at least, run by one.)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/counter-sting-catches-james-okeefe-network-attempting-to-sow-chaos-at-trumps-inauguration_us_5873e26fe4b043ad97e516f7


  • Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They sound like domestic terrorists. I'd say there is a lot wrong with them.
    Would probably be as effective as this lot! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Please don't waste our time with junk from Project Veritas. How often does that group need to be found out as frauds before people stop believing their twaddle?

    If you've got a more reliable source for this information, please feel free to quote it, but Project Veritas are convicted frauds (or at least, run by one.)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/counter-sting-catches-james-okeefe-network-attempting-to-sow-chaos-at-trumps-inauguration_us_5873e26fe4b043ad97e516f7

    http://thehill.com/capital-living/in-the-know/100105-filmmaker-okeefe-sentenced-in-sen-mary-landrieu-break-in

    Honest question.

    Is this what he was convicted of, trying to tap a phone?

    I've read other things like he had to pay for a fine to one organisation, and some of the people connected with project veritas tried to dupe individuals into admitting or going along with things.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    Fox certainly wasn't in Obama's pocket. Regarding MSM, personally, I've always found the BBC to be reasonably fair-minded and as informative as a news organisation can be.

    Do you think that all people should stop reading/watching/listening to all news about Trump? Do you not think there might be a problem with that?

    How trustworthy are the news providers these days?

    My concern would be that we are never getting the full story and that conversation/debate without the full story is a waste of time.

    The main media outlets aren't really telling outright lies but rather seem to be omitting information or maybe just not doing proper research before they run a story.

    So let's say there is a scandalous headline like "Trump mocks disabled reporter". What happens if I take time out of my day to dig in to the details of the particular incident and it turns out that the media or the people expressing "outrage" over this are being somewhat economical with the truth?

    Now I am put in the position where I can't actually trust the news reports and I can't really believe the outrage without actually taking the time to look into it myself.

    Then when I do look into things for myself I end up in never ending arguments with people who can't actually be bothered to dig up the truth or consider any nuance or people who simply do not want to confront the possibility that they might be wrong.

    There were PLENTY of perfectly reasonable arguments for why Donald Trump is not an appropriate presidential candidate. There was no need for a massive campaign of dishonest arguments and reporting but that's what we got.

    At what point is it simply more reasonable to say "I'm just going to stop reading/watching/listening to all news about Trump" because I can't be bothered reading up about it and getting into nasty arguments over it?

    Yes, there would be a huge problem with that but what other choice am I given here?

    It seems kind of obvious to me that many people are so completely anti-Trump that they are willing to lie, or to just be disingenuous, to serve that agenda or belief or whatever you want to call it. The same people will never EVER admit when they got it wrong. So what's the point in even engaging in the conversation?


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