Operation transformation

I'd like to see a program where someone had that pesky 10lbs/7lbs to lose. Much more challenging and interesting. Losing weight at 16 stone just seems too easy.

Hector Bellend wrote: »

It's easy to see why someone would give up

I don't get you? If you want something you keep going it could take years, months to finally achieve it but when you want it you'll get it but you have to commit. Weight management is difficult for everyone (with some exceptions), it doesn't just apply to obese/overweight people. I find often when I discuss weight loss it's as though I'm not allowed to have an opinion on how hard it is particularly in work; everyone has to work on their weight and therefore everyone is entitled to share the same experience/feelings.

Parchment wrote: »

actually its a really bad idea to go from 0 to 100 with exercise which is what some of these people are doing.

Seriousy look at what they are doing.

Some knee lunges with water bottles in your hand is not going to 100.

Some drama climbing that fire ladder, the man with one leg roaring and giving out to himself, WTF was that about?

Sam Kade wrote: »

Not very easy for someone 16 stone + it would be hard on the joints, most of them can barely walk FFS.

Well you can't expect it to be totally easy, they have to put some effort in.

I gather this show gets quite a lot of stick, and after tuning in on Thursday, I totally understand why. Firstly, does anybody in Ireland do those embarrassing shadow boxing exercises during the ad breaks. I'm no expert on exercise, but I imagine that it would burn off the calories gained by eating a Celebration. In other words, it's probably not worth throwing your dignity out of the window by punching mid-air for three consecutive minutes. But that wasn't the silliest part of the episode.

The most bizarre part was the fact that nobody on that panel of experts thought it was a good idea to tell the gay man, 'Listen mate, we know smoking is bad, but don't quit yet. You're making a pretty classic error by trying to do way too much at the same time. Quitting smoking and radically overhauling your eating habits is never in a million years going to work. It's just not sustainable. When you slip-up on the smokes then that will almost definitely lead to a slip-up with regards to the food.'

Not only did nobody try put him off the idea, but the female doctor encouraged him. It'll be interesting to see if that same doctor gives him grief for not hitting his weight-loss target next week, which he probably won't because, as I said, trying to kick two very serious habits at once isn't in the least bit realistic. He'll feel sh*t about himself if he caves in and has a cigarette, which has most probably happened already, and how do you reckon he copes with feelings of guilt and failing? You guessed it.

That doctor, whoever she is, shouldn't be anywhere near that show, and neither should the psychologist if he didn't make an effort to put him off the idea. That's my two cents.

tomwaterford wrote: »

No doctor anywhere is going to try convince someone not to give up smoking.....


Your honestly suggesting health offials encourage him to smoke

If he's threatening to quit smoking during a weight-loss program, then yeah absolutely. I think it was an astounding lack of foresight which will ultimately undermine the poor bloke. You can already tell what his segment is going to be about next week I think.

There is a lot of Rubbish in this thread.

The show is about changing lifestyle; going from Sedentary, Over-Eating, Obese to A Healthier Lifestyle.

They are not going to have the Biggest Loser 70 kgs lost results, but a more realistic 6-10 Kilos Loss. The Change in Lifestyle is the biggest target, with the Weight Loss just to reflect this.

Sure it's "Entertainment" but it also shows if 165 kg Paddy from Tallaght (not a real contestant) can change his ways and lose a couple of stone then maybe they can encourage others to do so. Regarding Henry's Triathlon experience; He freely admitted himself on TV a few times that he got his prep/training wrong and his energy crashed during the race for the first couple of attempts.

I also love the way people want to bash the "Experts" Sure at least 10 years of medical training doesn't allow the doctor to make recommendations to the contestant; Nor the Dietician, nor the Psychologist with their years of study or experience in the field.

Many of the Leaders may have deep rooted emotional issues which caused the over-eating / general laziness that leads to obesity.The weekly challenges with DFB are designed to be physically and mentally demanding and work as a confidence builder in the contestants (many of whom have zero to little confidence).

The Food Plans are about eating sensibly, a lot of it is about portion control matching to the correct intake. Take the Fish and Chips for example; Per Person it's 150g of Fish, 125g of Chips. (oven cooked) 1/2 an egg, 75g peas, 37g breadcrumbs, 1.5 teaspoons olive oil 12.5g plain flour. Probably 1/2 or 1/3 of what most people consider a dinner.

For the 8 weeks the leaders have support and advice to help them, as with the biggest loser (and all elements of life) once the camera's are gone it's up to the leaders to take responsibility for themselves. The Biggest Loser has been criticised in the US, but the above mentioned report has what 6 Contestents out of how many over almost 20 years?

RTÉ did a few years ago have a show where some of the contestants from previous years were on, now (pinch of low sodium replacement) they did show success stories, I'm sure there are others who haven't kept the weight off.