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Paulzx · 12-01-2017 03:42PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

How to make toast and boil an egg:

https://ot.rte.ie/recipes/boiled-egg-and-wholegrain-toast/

For years I've been trying to dip me toast unsuccessfully into a boiled egg.

Thanks to the OT "receipe" I now realise I should have been cutting it into soldiers all along.

Thanks OT!!!! The pounds are going to fly off

Galway_Old_Man · 12-01-2017 03:45PM

I'm not an expert but 209 calories for what's pictured there just seems wrong - https://ot.rte.ie/wp-content/files/2016/12/IMAGE-BREAKFAST-2-Boiled-Egg-and-Toast-637x359.jpg

Clarebelly · 12-01-2017 03:47PM

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

I'm not an expert but 209 calories for what's pictured there just seems wrong - https://ot.rte.ie/wp-content/files/2016/12/IMAGE-BREAKFAST-2-Boiled-Egg-and-Toast-637x359.jpg

The toast and the butter would probably top that alone.

Sam Kade · 12-01-2017 03:49PM

The Raptor wrote: »

Is anyone watching this? What kind of tripe is this?

They set 4lbs as a goal weight to lose in the week. Thought the healthy amount to lose is about 2lbs a week. What kind of experts are on this, surely this isn't healthy and experts saying it's OK. I'm tracking everything I eat and it wasn't easy to lose 2lbs in the past week. What are these people doing. And what's with the shaming of weighing them half naked?

It's a reality show complete with sob stories and tears the weight loss is a back story to the whole thing

Richard Hillman · 12-01-2017 03:52PM

RayCon wrote: »

The true measure of how successful this show is (and it's methods) is to revisit all the previous contestants ...

.... I'd wager a high % piled back on weight once the cameras were switched off and attention went away.

Oh that's where the gold is. After being an initial "success", Mr "Instructor on the back of his t-shirt" finally gets his moment to boost his ego.

Sam Kade · 12-01-2017 03:53PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

For two weeks max.

I'm sure you will come back and dispute that, which is your right. January too. Huh.

Indeed, I spotted some previous years contestants walking with the crowds on the program and they are still on the hefty side obviously learned nothing from it.

somesoldiers · 12-01-2017 03:56PM

It’s simple, stop filling your face with fast food, processed junk, sweets, beer and sugary drinks. Get up and exercise! I say this as someone who lost 4st in 2016 by doing exactly that

xzanti · 12-01-2017 03:58PM

Eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full.
Don't eat after 7PM (for the most part)
Drink lots of water
Take the stairs
Know the difference between hunger and appetite

Pretty simple really.

No need for those big dinners every night IMO.

They make food too much of a feature.

Parchment · 12-01-2017 04:02PM

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

I'm not an expert but 209 calories for what's pictured there just seems wrong - https://ot.rte.ie/wp-content/files/2016/12/IMAGE-BREAKFAST-2-Boiled-Egg-and-Toast-637x359.jpg

Seems more than that to me.

murpho999 · 12-01-2017 04:16PM

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

I'm not an expert but 209 calories for what's pictured there just seems wrong - https://ot.rte.ie/wp-content/files/2016/12/IMAGE-BREAKFAST-2-Boiled-Egg-and-Toast-637x359.jpg

Clarebelly wrote: »

The toast and the butter would probably top that alone.

Parchment wrote: »

Seems more than that to me.

Looks about right to me.

An egg is around 75 cals.

1 slice of wholemeal bread is similar, which leaves about 50 calories for the butter.

Wanderer2010 · 12-01-2017 04:31PM

The show was interesting when it first aired but it is really past its prime now, what with so many other health and weight shows clogging up our channels and so many debates on weight on the internet and radio, OT has been lost. The nutritionist one is an absolute cow, no manner at all and it doesn't help that I cant stand Kathryn Thomas either, she has a real smugness to her as if to brag that she gets every single presenting job on RTE. I'm sick of looking at her gurning face everywhere, give some up and comping a chance, RTE literally NEVER change their staff.

Parchment · 12-01-2017 04:34PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

The show was interesting when it first aired but it is really past its prime now, what with so many other health and weight shows clogging up our channels and so many debates on weight on the internet and radio, OT has been lost. The nutritionist one is an absolute cow, no manner at all and it doesn't help that I cant stand Kathryn Thomas either, she has a real smugness to her as if to brag that she gets every single presenting job on RTE. I'm sick of looking at her gurning face everywhere, give some up and comping a chance, RTE literally NEVER change their staff.

Kathryn Thomas is - INSUFFERABLE. I dont know one person who likes her on tv.

Cuddlesworth · 12-01-2017 05:09PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The premise of the show is good. That is that we should eat healthier, cut portion size and exercise more.

I do not see how the show can be criticised for that ideal.

When your the size of those people, exercising the way they do on that show is really bad for you. Their joints can't take it. It should just be about eating less.

murpho999 · 12-01-2017 05:26PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

When your the size of those people, exercising the way they do on that show is really bad for you. Their joints can't take it. It should just be about eating less.

Again, this is totally not true.

Exercise is vital in weight loss and their bodies can definitely take it. Follow a light programme to begin with and build it up is the norm.

Sam Kade · 12-01-2017 05:33PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Again, this is totally not true.

Exercise is vital in weight loss and their bodies can definitely take it. Follow a light programme to begin with and build it up is the norm.

True, but those knees up your man does during the break would wreck people that heavy there are plenty other les strenuous ways for them to excercise.

12-01-2017 05:49PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

When your the size of those people, exercising the way they do on that show is really bad for you. Their joints can't take it. It should just be about eating less.

That's ridiculous, the exercise they do is light, it's not intense training and the plans are made by professionals. I agree about eating less, but definitely don't discourage exercise, chances are the joint problems would already be present with or without exercise.

Galwayguy35 · 12-01-2017 07:03PM

22 years old and over 16 stone and she was eating chocolate and not sticking to the food plan, no sympathy at all for her.

It's ridiculous anyway, give them a food plan and tell them to exercise and don't see them again for a week.

Compare that with The Biggest Loser where there is 2 trainers who push the heavies in the gym until they feel like throwing up and the sweat is falling off them, they are watched throughout the whole process and the results are amazing.

Bambi985 · 12-01-2017 07:07PM

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/6-years-after-the-biggest-loser-metabolism-is-slower-and-weight-is-back-up/

I remember reading this about the Biggest Loser a few years ago. Basically how all of the contestants ending up gaining all the weight back and then some, because their metabolisms had slowed down so much in the years after they were on the show.

That's the problem with extreme dieting - your body will always fight to gain weight because you've given it the shock of its life. And your metabolism has come to a standstill from eating a drastically lower calorie intake over months.

But people love weight loss shows. Especially in January.

12-01-2017 07:08PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

22 years old and over 16 stone and she was eating chocolate and not sticking to the food plan, no sympathy at all for her.

It's ridiculous anyway, give them a food plan and tell them to exercise and don't see them again for a week.

Compare that with The Biggest Loser where there is 2 trainers who push the heavies in the gym until they feel like throwing up and the sweat is falling off them, they are watched throughout the whole process and the results are amazing.

Self commitment is one of the biggest parts of weight loss, people simply shouldn't apply if they don't want to do it. No point blaming a lack of supervision.

Hector Bellend · 12-01-2017 07:11PM

Unless you are a supermodel with a genius IQ and a wonderful personality nobody is in any position to fat shame.

Galwayguy35 · 12-01-2017 07:12PM

222233 wrote: »

Self commitment is one of the biggest parts of weight loss, people simply shouldn't apply if they don't want to do it. No point blaming a lack of supervision.

Sometimes during exercise you need someone to push you when you feel like giving up, that's where the trainers on The Biggest loser proved invaluable.

Nothing like that on OT, the people are left to do it themselves.

Donal55 · 12-01-2017 07:14PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

A big pile of bollocks.

The how to lose weight advice is both wrong and wrongly applied, unless the government are willing to pay out for personal trainers and a year's supply of kale for everyone in the country.

It won't make an iota of difference to people's weight. It's feel good, saccharine shìt; watch as we hear yet another fùcking U2 or some other crap Irish band track playing in the background while Bobby age 24 talks about how he couldn't stop eating cake cause he was laughed at in school.

Actually, one of the lads I know went for an interview for it. RTE kept trying to get him to talk about how difficult his life was because of being obese. He was having none of it. Tell us about the pain when you were growing up. Would you ever feck off. Victim crap.

RTE are using it for the emotional porn. The government are using it to look like they are fùcking doing someone. Some lads make a tidy sum off of it. Some people use it for psychological relief/ego justification.

And yet those wheels keep on spinning.

Kale at .49c is great value.

12-01-2017 07:14PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Sometimes during exercise you need someone to push you when you feel like giving up, that's where the trainers on The Biggest loser proved invaluable.

Nothing like that on OT, the people are left to do it themselves.

I completely agree, but why commit to a show if your not self motivated, how come so many people can lose weight on their own

Bambi985 · 12-01-2017 07:17PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Sometimes during exercise you need someone to push you when you feel like giving up, that's where the trainers on The Biggest loser proved invaluable.

Did you read that article I posted above, about all of the Biggest Loser contestants gaining all and even more weight after they stopped the programme?

In the face of that does it really make a difference if they had someone egging them on in the gym telling them to do another ten pushups?

Hector Bellend · 12-01-2017 07:18PM

222233 wrote: »

I completely agree, but why commit to a show if your not self motivated, how come so many people can lose weight on their own

Its easy to say that.

It's not easy to lose weight. I'm 26 stone and have only started losing weight. Not only do you have to remain motivated , you have to overcome decades of bad habits in some cases.

12-01-2017 07:21PM

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Its easy to say that.

It's not easy to lose weight. I'm 26 stone and have only started losing weight. Not only do you have to remain motivated , you have to overcome decades of bad habits in some cases.

Nothing is easy.

Fair play to you though. It's difficult for everyone, it's not easy to maintain weight either I have to work hard to keep off weight and it sucks but it's worth it. If you commit to something you will eventually achieve it even if it takes a number of attempts. I just think they should only have people who are entirely committed on the show.

This post wasn't intended to be offensive by the way, I wish you every success and well done and good luck with your journey.

Parchment · 12-01-2017 07:23PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Again, this is totally not true.

Exercise is vital in weight loss and their bodies can definitely take it. Follow a light programme to begin with and build it up is the norm.

actually its a really bad idea to go from 0 to 100 with exercise which is what some of these people are doing.

Galwayguy35 · 12-01-2017 07:28PM

Bambi985 wrote: »

Did you read that article I posted above, about all of the Biggest Loser contestants gaining all and even more weight after they stopped the programme?

In the face of that does it really make a difference if they had someone egging them on in the gym telling them to do another ten pushups?

The fact that they put on the weight after is another story, the point I'm making is during the process the trainers pushed them to the limit in the gym and were watching them to make sure they kept to the food plan, on OT there is nobody to do this.

Galwayguy35 · 12-01-2017 07:30PM

Parchment wrote: »

actually its a really bad idea to go from 0 to 100 with exercise which is what some of these people are doing.

The exercise they do on OT would be easy for a 70 year old, it's a very light workout.

12-01-2017 07:51PM

xzanti wrote: »

Since when is a big shteak and a pile of mash a low fat meal?

And he washed it down with a big bottle of ribena.

Isn't that full of sugar??

Did they say it was low fat?
Are they advocating low fat diets??

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