Eir rural FTTH thread

irishkopite 2011 · 10-01-2017 06:40PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's an extremely naive mistake, the laws of expansion & contraction are universal and impossible to defy, having a bit of slack to account for contraction of the cables in cold weather is "installation 101" stuff!

nobody actually knows what happensd everyone is just guessing, just because the new cable is hanging slightly lower doesn't mean much. All this speculation is a bit naive.

10-01-2017 07:46PM

irishkopite 2011 wrote: »

nobody actually knows what happensd everyone is just guessing, just because the new cable is hanging slightly lower doesn't mean much. All this speculation is a bit naive.

Not exactly,I've worked in data comms for decades, so I know what an over tensioned cable looks like! I have also worked on fibre installations so I know the risks imposed by putting fibre under tension.

irishkopite 2011 · 10-01-2017 08:02PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not exactly,I've worked in data comms for decades, so I know what an over tensioned cable looks like! I have also worked on fibre installations so I know the risks imposed by putting fibre under tension.

Well in that case you will know that there is a Kevlar strength member going through the centre of the cable to take stress off the fibre, but with all that said we still don't know why the cable was replaced, just guess work

10-01-2017 08:07PM

irishkopite 2011 wrote: »

Well in that case you will know that there is a Kevlar strength member going through the centre of the cable to take stress off the fibre, but with all that said we still don't know why the cable was replaced, just guess work

If you have the cables pulled too tight, you run the risk of stressing the rest of the overhead line infrastructure as well as the risk of stressing the fibre core, kevlar or no kevlar.

10-01-2017 09:10PM

damienirel wrote: »

Any excuse to be put back a couple of months. Why a couple of months? surely a few weeks max? Are they gone on holidays or what?

The original fibre was installed in September/October, I don't know when the error was spotted but the replacement work was going on at the end of last week and appeared to be completed (on my road) yesterday, I don't know how many other runs need to be replaced on our section.
But I suspect that we've missed our splicing timeslot and will have to wait for another one, that's what is pissing me off the most.
Had the original plan remained on schedule, it could even be live now.

tkmullingar · 10-01-2017 09:22PM

Hi , does anyone here have their ftth up and running, if so what was the install like and is it all it is made out to be

Cantona's Collars · 11-01-2017 02:36AM

daraghwal wrote: »

As a matter of interest, are they going past where the road is closed for the M11 works? Monageer village is part of the FTTH of Enniscorthy believe it or not. Enniscorthy used to be down as Winter 2016

I asked and the lads doing the work said they are going as far as the M11 works.

11-01-2017 03:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The original fibre was installed in September/October, I don't know when the error was spotted but the replacement work was going on at the end of last week and appeared to be completed (on my road) yesterday, I don't know how many other runs need to be replaced on our section.
But I suspect that we've missed our splicing timeslot and will have to wait for another one, that's what is pissing me off the most.
Had the original plan remained on schedule, it could even be live now.

I was pleased to see the splicing crew on site today, so it's good the see that we didn't get pushed down the list for splicing.

damienirel · 11-01-2017 04:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was pleased to see the splicing crew on site today, so it's good the see that we didn't get pushed down the list for splicing.

That's what I would have expected - not months waiting because of a dodgy line. Don't forget they have the whole rest of the country to do - before eoy 2018.
Come on get a move on lads! Throw a few shapes - these threads are scant on progress for the last few months. Expecting a massive pick up in progress reported here in the next couple of months.

11-01-2017 04:42PM

damienirel wrote: »

That's what I would have expected - not months waiting because of a dodgy line. Don't forget they have the whole rest of the country to do - before eoy 2018.
Come on get a move on lads! Throw a few shapes - these threads are scant on progress for the last few months. Expecting a massive pick up in progress reported here in the next couple of months.

I just went out to speak to the splicing crew (one man) and he expects to be completed by March. So there could be a surge of completions over the next couple of months.

rob808 · 11-01-2017 04:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I just went out to speak to the splicing crew (one man) and he expects to be completed by March. So there could be a surge of completions over the next couple of months.

I hope so they haven't being out to my area yet they being in trim and all over Meath but it all quite out my way.I hope I'm not down for summer since I'm down for early/mid 2017.

11-01-2017 04:54PM

tkmullingar wrote: »

Hi , does anyone here have their ftth up and running, if so what was the install like and is it all it is made out to be

The silence is deafening, hopefully it's because those posters have lost interest in this thread as they enjoy the bandwidth, or there are no posters (in this thread) on FTTH yet.

Gonzo · 11-01-2017 04:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I just went out to speak to the splicing crew (one man) and he expects to be completed by March. So there could be a surge of completions over the next couple of months.

I'm expecting a surge as well, perhaps from March onwards. So far they have been enabling between 1 and 5 exchanges per month since September, we'd be getting somewhere if they increase this to at least 10 per month.

Hopefully we will get a new round of updates later this week or next. I'm hoping Dunshaughlin will finally get a live date.

Chieftain · 11-01-2017 04:59PM

The cabinet nearest me was upgraded lately, but the best I can get is 7mbs so hoping at some stage FTTH will happen for me

BandMember · 11-01-2017 05:25PM

tkmullingar wrote: »

Hi , does anyone here have their ftth up and running, if so what was the install like and is it all it is made out to be

I'm pretty sure that there was a few people who posted that they have been connected and they posted a few pics as well. However, I suspect that as soon as they were connected, they swiftly pressed "Unfollow" and went off to enjoy living in the 21st Century!

daraghwal · 11-01-2017 05:28PM

BandMember wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that there was a few people who posted that they have been connected and they posted a few pics as well. However, I suspect that as soon as they were connected, they swiftly pressed "Unfollow" and went off to enjoy living in the 21st Century!

There was some but that was in Wexford as part of the 66 towns

Gwynston · 11-01-2017 05:29PM

Yep, there was a user many pages ago who got FTTH in the autumn and showed their Speedtest result of "only" 955 meg

Shame on Eir for advertising it as 1000 meg

BandMember · 11-01-2017 05:32PM

Gwynston wrote: »

Yep, there was a user many pages ago who got FTTH in the autumn and showed their Speedtest result of "only" 955 meg

Shame on Eir for advertising it as 1000 meg

Boo-urns!

digiman · 11-01-2017 07:59PM

I wonder how much FTTH Eir could rollout for 118mill?

Gonzo · 11-01-2017 09:32PM

digiman wrote: »

I wonder how much FTTH Eir could rollout for 118mill?

just over half the amount of the current rural blue line rollout. The current blue line FTTH rollout covering approx 302,000 premises is costing Eir roughly 200 million euros (quoted in a recent interview). This cost breaks down to just over 6,600 euros per premises regardless if they order FTTH or not.

digiman · 11-01-2017 11:09PM

Gonzo wrote: »

just over half the amount of the current rural blue line rollout. The current blue line FTTH rollout covering approx 302,000 premises is costing Eir roughly 200 million euros (quoted in a recent interview). This cost breaks down to just over 6,600 euros per premises regardless if they order FTTH or not.

About €660, Eir certainly wouldn't be doing it if it cost over €6k per home and only taking in around €25-30 per month from wholesale prices. Would take them multiple decades to make any money back

Gonzo · 12-01-2017 03:00PM

digiman wrote: »

About €660, Eir certainly wouldn't be doing it if it cost over €6k per home and only taking in around €25-30 per month from wholesale prices. Would take them multiple decades to make any money back

maths was never my strong point!

Rollout here seems to have moved on to another town. I've seen a few open eir vans going around checking splicebox's a few days ago but nothing since.

Now that were almost half way through January, I am a bit surprised not to read any updates from other areas. The lads should be hitting the ground running at this stage with much more widespread work in other areas.

Grumpypants · 12-01-2017 04:08PM

KN van and a high lift outside my house putting some kinda box on the pole ! Will have to wait until I get home to have a look.

damienirel · 12-01-2017 05:18PM

Gonzo wrote: »

Now that were almost half way through January, I am a bit surprised not to read any updates from other areas. The lads should be hitting the ground running at this stage with much more widespread work in other areas.

Come on "a bit" surprised. Really are you even "a bit"?
The rollout map needs to "get in the sea" at this stage.
Complete boll@@ks!

Shyboy · 12-01-2017 05:52PM

So two weeks have passed since our area (Turloughmore, County Galway) should have gone live.

I have called Eir about 5 times, keep being told not available to me as yet as my line does not pass the line test. Some neighbours ordered it from the Eir Sales guy who called to homes before Xmas and have install dates of today and next week (funnily enough, haven't seen any Eir/KN vans around today for installs)...

Many other houses who are all wired for FTTH are not passing the line checker as well, but some are...

Don't know wtf is going on? Eir can tell me nothing "Don't call us...we'll call you" attitude...

Just thinking, Is there a possibility of limited ports at the exchange for FTTH like stories that I have heard of FTTC. Just wondering if the Eir Sales fella who was out before Xmas (who I sadly missed), signed up so many, the exchange might be full already?

Just a thought? but I hope not...:(

Gwynston · 12-01-2017 05:59PM

Shyboy wrote: »

Just thinking, Is there a possibility of limited ports at the exchange for FTTH like stories that I have heard of FTTC. Just wondering if the Eir Sales fella who was out before Xmas (who I sadly missed), signed up so many, the exchange might be full already?

I hope not too...!
I'm thinking it's probably more that the Sales guy's actions have somehow got the database updated so that those houses are marked as available on the system. So it seems the piecemeal roll-out process has some major shortcomings - there's probably no active updating going on in the system, but the sales guy has managed to circumvent that.

Whatever. It stinks.
And it's left you in a very sh!tty situation...

Gonzo · 12-01-2017 06:13PM

Shyboy wrote: »

So two weeks have passed since our area (Turloughmore, County Galway) should have gone live.

I have called Eir about 5 times, keep being told not available to me as yet as my line does not pass the line test. Some neighbours ordered it from the Eir Sales guy who called to homes before Xmas and have install dates of today and next week (funnily enough, haven't seen any Eir/KN vans around today for installs)...

Many other houses who are all wired for FTTH are not passing the line checker as well, but some are...

Don't know wtf is going on? Eir can tell me nothing "Don't call us...we'll call you" attitude...

Just thinking, Is there a possibility of limited ports at the exchange for FTTH like stories that I have heard of FTTC. Just wondering if the Eir Sales fella who was out before Xmas (who I sadly missed), signed up so many, the exchange might be full already?

Just a thought? but I hope not...:(

I don't like the sound of this at all. Once a route is wired, all the homes should pass. This should not be happening, would seem a bit of a waste if they are going to do this and only let the odd house sign up for it.

rob808 · 12-01-2017 06:24PM

Shyboy wrote: »

So two weeks have passed since our area (Turloughmore, County Galway) should have gone live.

I have called Eir about 5 times, keep being told not available to me as yet as my line does not pass the line test. Some neighbours ordered it from the Eir Sales guy who called to homes before Xmas and have install dates of today and next week (funnily enough, haven't seen any Eir/KN vans around today for installs)...

Many other houses who are all wired for FTTH are not passing the line checker as well, but some are...

Don't know wtf is going on? Eir can tell me nothing "Don't call us...we'll call you" attitude...

Just thinking, Is there a possibility of limited ports at the exchange for FTTH like stories that I have heard of FTTC. Just wondering if the Eir Sales fella who was out before Xmas (who I sadly missed), signed up so many, the exchange might be full already?

Just a thought? but I hope not...:(

if your exchange hasn't got a live date for FTTH yet you can't order it.Wait till it has a live date then try order it.

Gwynston · 12-01-2017 06:26PM

Shyboy wrote: »

Many other houses who are all wired for FTTH are not passing the line checker as well, but some are...

Bearing in mind Eir, who are responsible for the line checker and are offering the service, are different to Open Eir who are responsible for the network:

It would be interesting if the neighbours who are passing the line check are showing up as available to other FTTH suppliers - if there are any?

That would tell us if the database update has been propagated to rival suppliers. (Even if it will probably take an Open Eir or KN crew to physically connect the property first). Or if the Eir sales guy's actions are breaking competition rules by only making customer availability visible to Eir... :eek:

rob808 wrote: »

if your exchange hasn't got a live date for FTTH yet you can't order it.Wait till it has a live date then try order it.

I think that area went live the last week of December.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 12-01-2017 06:28PM

Gwynston wrote: »

Bearing in mind Eir, who are responsible for the line checker and are offering the service, are different to Open Eir who are responsible for the network:

It would be interesting if the neighbours who are passing the line check are showing up as available to other FTTH suppliers - if there are any?

That would tell us if the database update has been propagated to rival suppliers. (Even if it will probably take an Open Eir or KN crew to physically connect the property first). Or if the Eir sales guy's actions are breaking competition rules by only making customer availability visible to Eir... :eek:

I think that area went live the last week of December.

I told him last week to check with Pure Telecom. He could also try Digiweb. As you say if is available to eir it should be available to all operators.

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