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anyone else fed up hearing about abortion already

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  • #32
    Parchment
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    People want to dance around this topic rather than just have a referendum on it.


  • #33
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    david75 wrote: »
    We wouldn't have to be bored about it if we just let women make their own choices. It's none of anybody's business what a woman does with her body. It's nobody's business whatsoever except her own.

    You have your mind made up. So do I.
    Will months the of debates and fighting change your opinion. I doubt it.


  • #34
    Maliyah Juicy Spaciousness
    Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Maliyah Juicy Spaciousness


    https://np.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/5m4lx9/i_an_atheist_just_erupted_at_my_verychristian/


  • #35
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Canadian judge sorted the anti-choice filth who just love putting up the graphic posters

    We need this here

    http://fus.in/2isskZK

    A Canadian judge says an anti-abortion group cannot put their ads up on public buses in the city of Grande Prairie, Alberta because they might cause “psychological harm to women who have had an abortion.” The offending ad contains pictures of fetuses and reads, “Abortion kills children. End the killing.”



  • #36
    jameorahiely
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭jameorahiely


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Canadian judge sorted the anti-choice filth who just love putting up the graphic posters

    We need this here

    Why would a picture of a clump of cells upset the pro abortionists? Does the truth upset them?


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  • #37
    Parchment
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    jameorahiely wrote: »
    Why would a picture of a clump of cells upset the pro abortionists? Does the truth upset them?

    Its obvious what side you are gunning for. I would just like to point out that nobody is pro-abortion. People are pro-choice.


  • #38
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Let's just have the ****ing referendum and be done with it.

    But if it doesn't pass, can the Repeal crowd then just STFU?

    doubt it Ulysses, that's just you trying to enforce your evil patriarchy.
    Ive been triggered by your STFU now and I have to retreat to my safe space.
    I wish you good day.


  • #39
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    jameorahiely wrote: »
    Why would a picture of a clump of cells upset the pro abortionists? Does the truth upset them?

    Women need to be able to go out in public without being confronted and criticised for the choices they make about their reproductive health


  • #40
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Parchment wrote: »
    Its obvious what side you are gunning for. I would just like to point out that nobody is pro-abortion. People are pro-choice.
    if you want abortion to be legal then you are pro abortion.
    I cant understand why you object to this expression, can you explain your objection?


  • #41
    jameorahiely
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭jameorahiely


    Parchment wrote: »
    Its obvious what side you are gunning for. I would just like to point out that nobody is pro-abortion. People are pro-choice.

    Pro murder


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  • #42
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Women need to be able to go out in public without being confronted and criticised for the choices they make about their reproductive health

    But if you were satisfied when you arranged and had the abortion that all you did was remove a clump of cells then why would a picture of a clump of cells bother you?
    If I had a tooth pulled and left the dentists and saw toothpaste ads showing rows of gleaming teeth, I wouldn't feel bad about my tooth?


  • #43
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    no need to debate just let the people decide


  • #44
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    infogiver wrote: »
    But if you were ..................


    There are children on buses and out on the street with their parents

    The anti-choice filth with the posters don't care about that though


  • #45
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Canadian judge sorted the anti-choice filth who just love putting up the graphic posters

    We need this here

    anti choice filth
    pro abortion filth
    Its like schoolyard gang warfare


  • #46
    jameorahiely
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭jameorahiely


    gctest50 wrote: »
    There are children on buses and out on the street with their parents

    The anti-choice filth with the posters don't care about that though

    We bettr hide the people with down syndrome from the children too

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3970656/Outcry-French-court-rules-pro-life-commercial-showing-happy-children-syndrome-inappropriate-likely-disturb-women-abortions.html


    A video showing happy children with Down syndrome has been banned from French television, after judges ruled it could be upsetting for women who have aborted children with the condition.


  • #47
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    gctest50 wrote: »
    There are children on buses and out on the street with their parents

    The anti-choice filth with the posters don't care about that though

    A minute a go you said it was because women don't like to be reminded about their abortion.
    Now its about kids.
    Which is it?


  • #48
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    infogiver wrote: »
    anti choice filth
    pro abortion filth
    Its like schoolyard gang warfare


    Anyone who goes around sticking up posters/waving them around in front of kids is filth

    Much the same could be said if you were waving around pictures of heart transplants in front of them for some reason


  • #49
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    jameorahiely wrote: »
    We bettr hide the people with down syndrome from the children too

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3970656/Outcry-French-court-rules-pro-life-commercial-showing-happy-children-syndrome-inappropriate-likely-disturb-women-abortions.html


    A video showing happy children with Down syndrome has been banned from French television, after judges ruled it could be upsetting for women who have aborted children with the condition.

    Better hide all the pictures of kids with hare lips too, don't want anyone feeling too bad.


  • #50
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    no need to debate just let the people decide

    Indeed.. the problem is both sides are terrified that the decision won't go their way. Although you'd have to think that it'd pass, if the older more conservative groups turned out in their droves (as they normally do for elections) while the younger group figured "ah it'll be grand! Sure Twitter said so!" it mightn't be so clear cut.

    The issues and ramifications either way are well known by anyone with a stake/interest in the question. Debating it however allows the powers that be to kick an actual referendum down the road a bit more while presenting the illusion of democracy (which really jut turns into a slanging match by extremer views on both sides - you can already see it in this thread!).

    As you say, what SHOULD be done is that a date is set and the referendum held within the next 3-6 months say, but unfortunately we'll all have to suffer the pro/against "arguments" for a while longer than that I'd say.


  • #51
    brickmauser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭brickmauser


    There will be abortion waiting lists. Maybe await of two years to get an abortion?


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  • #52
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    How did you get this :
    jameorahiely wrote: »
    We bettr hide the people with down syndrome from the children too
    ..........

    from this ?:
    gctest50 wrote: »
    There are children on buses and out on the street with their parents

    The anti-choice filth with the posters don't care about that though


  • #53
    jameorahiely
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭jameorahiely


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Anyone who goes around sticking up posters/waving them around in front of kids is filth

    Much the same could be said if you were waving around pictures of heart transplants in front of them for some reason


    https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR37vcnJ3Zq0qCPa7tkx-hb2BlU_VJvEbi-Jbbqp_ohCveHyBalYQ

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRg1Hc5Up9jSdOvB1o-WBdUzCvLrVZcgWRll-JwazX6CZyy7iPXpQ


    https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR37vcnJ3Zq0qCPa7tkx-hb2BlU_VJvEbi-Jbbqp_ohCveHyBalYQ



    Filth, to use your expression. Wouldn't you agree?


  • #54
    Shenshen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    infogiver wrote: »
    A minute a go you said it was because women don't like to be reminded about their abortion.
    Now its about kids.
    Which is it?

    If you were pregnant, and your child was diagnosed with anecephaly and you decided to terminate the pregnancy rather than force the poor thing to suffer and die shortly after birth, can you not see how seeing those pictures would upset you? Seriously?


  • #55
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Anyone who goes around sticking up posters/waving them around in front of kids is filth

    Much the same could be said if you were waving around pictures of heart transplants in front of them for some reason

    surely if your pro-abortion you would be explaining to your kids that the bloody mess in the pictures is just a clump of cells, like a scab they picked of their knee, and not a baby (even though it looks like a baby..yeah tricky)


  • #56
    Parchment
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    Wow - are mods not going to step in here?

    They step in for far less.


  • #57
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Parchment wrote: »
    Wow - are mods not going to step in here?

    They step in for far less.

    Hi.

    What's your suggestion here, close the discussion? I know there has been no new ground borken so far and it appears to be the same discussion that has been had in every other thread on the subject.

    If there is something you are not happy with, please report the post and the mods can take a look.
    Or you could PM me or any of the other mods as well.


  • #58
    brickmauser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭brickmauser


    Shenshen wrote: »
    If you were pregnant, and your child was diagnosed with anecephaly and you decided to terminate the pregnancy rather than force the poor thing to suffer and die shortly after birth, can you not see how seeing those pictures would upset you? Seriously?

    If the person killed their own flesh and blood and they are feeling guilty you mean? If they kill a little baby for their own convenience and try to rationalize it as a good deed? Must not offend the child killers. I hope they are upset and I hope anyone who is considering murdering their own child thinks again.


  • #59
    Parchment
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Parchment


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Hi.

    What's your suggestion here, close the discussion? I know there has been no new ground borken so far and it appears to be the same discussion that has been had in every other thread on the subject.

    If there is something you are not happy with, please report the post and the mods can take a look.
    Or you could PM me or any of the other mods as well.

    well take a look at the post below your post quoted above.


  • #60
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    Shenshen wrote: »
    If you were pregnant, and your child was diagnosed with anecephaly and you decided to terminate the pregnancy rather than force the poor thing to suffer and die shortly after birth, can you not see how seeing those pictures would upset you? Seriously?
    See this is the problem all summed up in one sentence.
    You are accusing parents who chose to continue with the pregnancy after a diagnosis of anecephaly of deciding to "force the poor thing to suffer and die shortly after birth" (your words not mine).
    So that's NOT pro-choice. You are saying really that that choice shouldn't be available to them. That that choice is cruel on the "thing".
    So how can you describe yourself as pro choice and reject the term pro abortion?


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  • #61
    infogiver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭infogiver


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Anyone who goes around sticking up posters/waving them around in front of kids is filth

    Much the same could be said if you were waving around pictures of heart transplants in front of them for some reason

    So.. pro lifers=filth
    Organ donation proponents = filth?


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