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Senator Lynn Ruane Wants to Ban Comments on Articles

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  • 06-01-2017 9:11am
    #1
    Richard Hillman
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    https://twitter.com/SenLynnRuane/status/817161557956247552

    There you go, a non elected politician wanting to shut down free speech. Authoritarianism characterised in 140 characters. They are not even trying to hide it anymore.

    Any TD that would vote in favour for this should be deemed an enemy of the state.


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    #2
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    *inserts fingers in ears*

    "LA LA LA LA
    I CANT HEAR
    YOUUUUUUUUUU
    LA LA LA LA"


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    Peregrinus
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    How is Lynn Ruane a non-elected politician?


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    The J Stands for Jay
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    I'd like to see a nice "Irish politician against free speech" headline in a few newspapers.


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    Laois_Man
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    They'll have to shut down Boards too then!

    What will we do in work all day?


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    Dravokivich
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    How is Lynn Ruane a non-elected politician?

    The Taoiseach can appoint senators.


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    Wibbs
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    Stop the presses! Ex student union Right On type wants echo chamber! In other news; water is wet.

    Though TBH I'm disappointed in her. I figured her having far more backbone and cop on.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    Peregrinus
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The Taoiseach can appoint senators.
    Yes, but he didn't appoint Lynn Ruane. She was elected.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Though TBH I'm disappointed in her. I figured her having far more backbone and cop on.

    Lol. Why? Head of an SU running for Seanad doesn't scream either to me. Well, self-interested cop on aside.


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    godtabh
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Yes, but he didn't appoint Lynn Ruane. She was elected.

    By a small minority. Hardly representive


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    Yourself isit
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Yes, but he didn't appoint Lynn Ruane. She was elected.

    Politician elected from elitist constituency in Ireland wants to ban comments.


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    TerrorFirmer
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Yes, but he didn't appoint Lynn Ruane. She was elected.

    By a handful of people. It is a ridiculous system.


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    seamus
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    There is a certain point to it - not necessarily removal, but some level of obligation on the content provider to properly moderate the comments section.

    The articles posted are required to have even the tiniest smidgin of fact-checking, rigour and honesty in them. The paper will get in trouble with the press council if they fail to meet some basic standards.

    Yet the comments below the same article are not subject to the same rules and can contain any old false nonsense and hysterical trolling.

    It would make sense that if a paper is going to allow comments to their articles, the comments should be reviewed by a competent person for some of these basic standards before they get published with it.


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    Tigger
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    Is she gonna ban comments on Irish websites or Irish content or will
    It be like in China and we won't see things that she dos not want us to see?


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    Bandage
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    Ruane's tweet isn't worthy of comment.


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    ThisRegard
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    It's a pretty dumb thing to come out with. If you read her subsequent tweets it seems to be driven from previous comments she received on the subject of consent.
    seamus wrote: »
    There is a certain point to it - not necessarily removal, but some level of obligation on the content provider to properly moderate the comments section.

    Yes, moderation, not a total ban on them.


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    tritium
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    It's a pretty dumb thing to come out with. If you read her subsequent tweets it seems to be driven from previous comments she received on the subject of consent.



    Yes, moderation, not a total ban on them.
    Ah so someone said something she didnt like so her solution is to try to legislate them away

    How enlightened totalitarian of her.


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    The J Stands for Jay
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Yes, but he didn't appoint Lynn Ruane. She was elected.

    I went to the wrong university, so I don't get to vote.


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    Donal55
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    In a lot of cases the comments sections have better journalistic qualities than the actual article itself.


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    Wibbs
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Lol. Why? Head of an SU running for Seanad doesn't scream either to me. Well, self-interested cop on aside.
    Maybe acquaint yourself with her life and background? Single mother at 15 from disadvantaged area, racking up the petty crime, turns herself around gets an education and gets into Trinity college as a mature student. Bit different from your usual braying bint from Blackrock cruising on daddy's chequebook.

    It does tend to suggest that get enough exposure to that student progressive ballsology and even the more sensible start to buy into the bullshít.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    TheDavester
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    tritium wrote: »
    Ah so someone said something she didnt like so her solution is to try to legislate them away

    How enlightened totalitarian of her.

    Basically she's going down the Louise O Neill /una Mullally route, no one can challenge me and I/we control the narrative...Examiner rarely allows comments on Louises pieces on their FB for some "odd" reason


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    #22
    Clarebelly
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    I hear North Korea have an opening in the senate......


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    TheDavester
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    She's taking over Lorraine "4 times not elected" Higgins, censor everything on the web, under the guise of its "bullying"


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    silverharp
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    she deleted her tweet, anyone screenshot it?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Maybe acquaint yourself with her life and background?
    I am. I had a choice as to whether to vote for her or not.
    Single mother at 15 from disadvantaged area, racking up the petty crime, turns herself around gets an education and gets into Trinity college as a mature student. Bit different from your usual braying bint from Blackrock cruising on daddy's chequebook.
    Sounds like a bit of effort.
    It does tend to suggest that get enough exposure to that student progressive ballsology and even the more sensible start to buy into the bullshít.
    Early semi-retirement.


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    Yourself isit
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    seamus wrote: »
    There is a certain point to it - not necessarily removal, but some level of obligation on the content provider to properly moderate the comments section.

    The articles posted are required to have even the tiniest smidgin of fact-checking, rigour and honesty in them. The paper will get in trouble with the press council if they fail to meet some basic standards.

    Yet the comments below the same article are not subject to the same rules and can contain any old false nonsense and hysterical trolling.

    It would make sense that if a paper is going to allow comments to their articles, the comments should be reviewed by a competent person for some of these basic standards before they get published with it.

    The indo does review. Redacted is safe.

    What she wants is a total ban on comments.


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    Clarebelly
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    silverharp wrote: »
    she deleted her tweet, anyone screenshot it?

    The irony.

    I see a bright future for this one.
    Hopefully by this time next year she can graduate to driving down some steps in her car.


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    midnight city
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    In a lot of cases the comments sections have better journalistic qualities than the actual article itself.

    A lot of articles I don't even read what the journalist wrote I skip to the comments. Especially if it's a journalist I know talks rubbish.


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    Yourself isit
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    In a lot of cases the comments sections have better journalistic qualities than the actual article itself.

    That's true of a lot of guardian comments on Aleppo. Or the campaign against Corbyn. The idea that the people above the line have "the truth" and those below the line don't is nonsense. Journalists have weak journalism degrees, or are related to the editor.


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    silverharp
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    In a lot of cases the comments sections have better journalistic qualities than the actual article itself.

    you just made everyone at the Journal.ie cry

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    ThisRegard
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    tritium wrote: »
    Ah so someone said something she didnt like so her solution is to try to legislate them away

    How enlightened totalitarian of her.

    That's how it seems.
    Wibbs wrote: »
    Maybe acquaint yourself with her life and background?

    Which is what makes this all the more disappointing.


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