Recruitment for British army soars in Republic of Ireland

Ferrari3600 · 05-01-2017 01:44AM

eeguy · 05-01-2017 01:50AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

15 grand a year on joining, 18,300 on joining your unit. Pretty crap pay.

You're food clothes and board are all paid for. You'd do a lot worse in many jobs here.
Min wage is 18k euro and you could be stuck on that for years. Some lads I know have been on min wage for a decade.

Army is a good shout if you've no interest in college and can't get an apprenticeship, which is where a lot of lads are stuck these days.
You days are all structured, you get to travel, keep in shape, learn things that are generally very interested to young lads (armed and unarmed combat, weapons, vehicles, teamwork ect) get sent on lots out courses, plenty of opportunities for advancement.

I was going to join the Air Corp for a while as an aircraft tech before life led me on another path.

To all the lads calling them murderers just remember the quote "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."

Tom Mann Centuria · 05-01-2017 01:53AM

eeguy wrote: »

You're food clothes and board are all paid for.

Food is about 6 pounds a day and accommodation costs too.

05-01-2017 01:54AM

getzls wrote: »

Including Israeli Arabs.

LMFAO :pac: Give me a stat for hte number of Arabs in the IDF?

eeguy · 05-01-2017 02:03AM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Food is about 6 pounds a day and accommodation costs too.

Sorry, AFAIK food and board on deployment is free.

The daily food rate is under 5 pounds. Accommodation varies depending on where you're staying.
https://www.moneyforce.org.uk/Your-career/Before-you-join-the-Services/What-you-will-have-to-pay-for

JimmyTClarke · 05-01-2017 02:04AM

Jayop wrote: »

Your analogy would be like someone saying the IRA are the Irish people.

I was in a very similar situation recently in Liverpool. A girl (who was quite inebriated) asked me why the Irish hated the English so much. I could only reply with a bemused 'Do we?' She then proceeded to remind me of the Troubles (or some semblance thereof) and the atrocities committed by the Provos. Having informed her that they didn't commit those acts in my name she said 'So you don't support your army?'. I then backed away quickly without any further conversation or eye contact, concerned that factual information might cause her brain to explode

My name is URL · 05-01-2017 02:09AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

15 grand a year on joining, 18,300 on joining your unit. Pretty crap pay.

Better than what they'd be costing the state on the dole here, with no education or worldly experience.

Once the Brits don't expect us to pay for their lost limbs and sanity, let them have 'em.

Do they still get soup even?

Chaos Black · 05-01-2017 02:11AM

Some Irish people would join the British army as they view military life as a vocation, often following in other family members footsteps. It's not all that long ago in the grand scheme of things, that working in the British army was normal. I doubt for many folk, the politics or sentiment came into it.

Jimmy Garlic · 05-01-2017 02:13AM

''Military are dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy'' - Henry Kissinger

And that's it in a nutshell. That's what people in high places who create wars, but never send their children to fight in those wars, think about soldiers - dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.

catbear · 05-01-2017 02:15AM

Aren't the German army now actively recruiting abroad. I reckon that would be a better option. Learn a language, play with some cool technology, mess around with hairy women....

nhunter100 · 05-01-2017 02:21AM

Mouseslayer17 wrote:

All the dole scroungers here should be conscripted to the English army

Fair play I thought I'd encounter a moron sooner, seems ye are in short supply.

05-01-2017 02:24AM

Just a thought..If you join a foreign military and swear some sort of oath to them and their state, should you be allowed to keep your irish passport?

dissed doc · 05-01-2017 02:25AM

Plebbit wrote: »

From the Belfast Telegraph.

Apparently a new Irish recruit signs up every 4 1/2 days. Can't blame the young Irish lads. If it's a choice between wasting your life away on the dole in some grim village in the backarse of Cavan or traveling the world on global deployments with the British Army, I'd choose the latter. I hear the pay is decent and there are lots of opportunities for advancement.

Or move an hour from your home village and get a regular job?

My name is URL · 05-01-2017 02:25AM

catbear wrote: »

Aren't the German army now actively recruiting abroad

Recruiting is one word for it

ChikiChiki · 05-01-2017 02:27AM

Tried to get into the Air Corps as a route to being a pilot a few years back. Notoriously difficult to get into. I wouldn't go for the same in the UK as I'd likely be expected to rain bombs down on terrorists taking out innocents in the process. I just don't have that in me.

JustAThought · 05-01-2017 02:41AM

anyone thinking seriously of joining should look at the grants section of the "Hope for Heros" website and you will see how pitifully they are looked after after injury and how after discharged because they are unusable in the military anymore they live on the fringes of desperate poverty. No arms, no legs, no relationships, no hope. Special Olympics will only take you so far for so long. The real truth for their wives and families is mostly horrendous - and 70% of the relationships do yield under the pressures of their injuries. Everyone thinks it wont happen to them.
PTSD and, distrubingly, penis amputations are now amongst the most frequent "injuries" - of course, other than vets protest websites, reddit and occasional huff post "articles" this isn't highlighted too much by the military/ media.

Living conditions are fairly boarding school too I hear.

A new medical research section for penis transplants is now being funded by the military - driven by need. IED's explode upwards - its not just feet and legs they take. there are far worse things than dying.

oneilla · 05-01-2017 02:45AM

Mouseslayer17 wrote: »

All the dole scroungers here should be conscripted to the English army

AAAAND the foreigners, the medical card usurpers, the travellers, the homeless, the junkies, the glasses wearers, the gingers, the short people, etc etc etc

Jayop · 05-01-2017 02:47AM

eeguy wrote: »

You're food clothes and board are all paid for. You'd do a lot worse in many jobs here.
Min wage is 18k euro and you could be stuck on that for years. Some lads I know have been on min wage for a decade.

Army is a good shout if you've no interest in college and can't get an apprenticeship, which is where a lot of lads are stuck these days.
You days are all structured, you get to travel, keep in shape, learn things that are generally very interested to young lads (armed and unarmed combat, weapons, vehicles, teamwork ect) get sent on lots out courses, plenty of opportunities for advancement.

I was going to join the Air Corp for a while as an aircraft tech before life led me on another path.

To all the lads calling them murderers just remember the quote "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."

No, they're called murderers because they murder people as a job at the command of their masters.

Cool_CM · 05-01-2017 03:11AM

riffmongous wrote: »

Just a thought..If you join a foreign military and swear some sort of oath to them and their state, should you be allowed to keep your irish passport?

Yes you should.

05-01-2017 03:59AM

Cool_CM wrote: »

Yes you should.

Even though you swear allegiance to some other country?

Atari Jaguar · 05-01-2017 04:13AM

Jayop wrote: »

No, they're called murderers because they murder people as a job at the command of their masters.

Heart bleeds for the terrorists they put down. Poor Bin Laden and his cohorts, gone too soon rip sweet angle xxx

JupiterKid · 05-01-2017 04:33AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Quislings.

The 1950s are that way --->

If a young lad wants to advance his life/career prospects, then why not? I'm no fan of armies in general but it can equip a person with good life skills, self-discipline and specialisations that will be to their advantage later on.

infogiver · 05-01-2017 07:17AM

votecounts wrote: »

The majority will only advance to a body bag all for a foreign army, do anything else to advance like a course,work placement, etc

No personnel on active service with the British army died anywhere in 2016

infogiver · 05-01-2017 07:19AM

riffmongous wrote: »

Even though you swear allegiance to some other country?

I have both passports
I'm loyal to both countries
Can I only be loyal to one?
Why?

LuckyLloyd · 05-01-2017 09:32AM

Thread title misleading. Seems recruitment of Irish men to the British army is historically low.

Tom Mann Centuria · 05-01-2017 10:00AM

eeguy wrote: »

Sorry, AFAIK food and board on deployment is free.

The daily food rate is under 5 pounds. Accommodation varies depending on where you're staying.
https://www.moneyforce.org.uk/Your-career/Before-you-join-the-Services/What-you-will-have-to-pay-for

Yeah, I wasn't quite right, but it's more than a fiver, not less, the MOD increased food bill to £5.74 a day since October and accommodation may well be free on deployment but they aren't deployed all year round so there is still costs involved. Lots of units are static, comms, admin etc and they'll pay year round.

None of its a fortune, but neither is starting wage.

TheDoc · 05-01-2017 10:47AM

Crea wrote: »

Great. Opportunities to murder complete strangers on orders for reasons you don't really understand.

Don't you worry about it chicken, sure you go about your normal life. Our armed forces will go about their business and keep you safe if anything happens.

Don't stress your little head about it, no one is going to ever ask you to defend your country or countrymen. So no hassles

Nothing ****ing worse then people speaking condescendingly about armed forces, here or abroad. Even more ridiculous when coming from someone Irish, with our ridiculous stance on neutrality and being happy out that America and the UK can police the world for us and keep us safe.

Maximus Alexander · 05-01-2017 10:59AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Its not the English army you clown.

That's not its name, but it's what it is, really.

Fratton Fred · 05-01-2017 11:19AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

That's not its name, but it's what it is, really.

why?

rainbow kirby · 05-01-2017 11:57AM

My uncle was in for 22 years. Spent more time as an IT technician than anything else, and now does the same thing working from home because his knees are wrecked.

Recruitment for British army soars in Republic of Ireland

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