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El Presidente Trump

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  • #7292
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    And that he founded ISIS.
    That believe he founded ISIS when he was 5 years old, actually. No, really, that's not a joke. But idiots do tend to be low on information, so no surprise there.


  • #7293
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Obama spitting his dummy out I see. Look, just leave the office with some dignity. You had an 8 year run, Hillary lost, Russia don't like you, Trump will get on well with Russia. This agenda against Russia is over now that Trump will be running the show.

    The political establishment in Washington should go on Holiday for the next 4 or 8 years, then resume the anti reds agenda.


  • #7294
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You have posters on here who fully believe Obama isn't American.

    And that he founded ISIS.
    America did found ISIS, funded ISIS, supplied them with weapons in the Syria Civil war, supported terrorists fighting Assad. America very much is responsible for ISIS, that is on Obama's watch. Go blame him, no one else.


  • #7295
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    America did found ISIS, funded ISIS, supplied them with weapons in the Syria Civil war, supported terrorists fighting Assad. America very much is responsible for ISIS, that is on Obama's watch. Go blame him, no one else.

    What year was ISIS founded?


  • #7296
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,260 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Billy86 wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    America did found ISIS, funded ISIS, supplied them with weapons in the Syria Civil war, supported terrorists fighting Assad. America very much is responsible for ISIS, that is on Obama's watch. Go blame him, no one else.

    What year was ISIS founded?

    The year Obama took office.


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  • #7297
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ebbsy wrote: »
    The year Obama took office.
    Obama took office in 1999? Or was it 2006?

    Don't let being (again, being politically correct here for your benefit) "low information" get in the way of the feels.


  • #7298
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Billy86 wrote: »
    ebbsy wrote: »
    The year Obama took office.
    Obama took office in 1999? Or was it 2006?

    Don't let being (again, being politically correct here for your benefit) "low information" get in the way of the feels.
    Go look at the pictures of the US supplied weapons taken by the Syrian government army. Obama has been supplying terrorists with weapons, people who have beheaded children. Shame on him.


  • #7299
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Go look at the pictures of the US supplied weapons taken by the Syrian government army. Obama has been supplying terrorists with weapons, people who have beheaded children. Shame on him.
    So which is it, 2006 or 1999 that Obama took office? A little information wouldn't hurt, you know. :)


  • #7300
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Go look at the pictures of the US supplied weapons taken by the Syrian government army. Obama has been supplying terrorists with weapons, people who have beheaded children. Shame on him.

    Your words are not enough. You have not backed up your statements.
    You really need to up your information intake.


  • #7301
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Surprised people still respond to him tbh.


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  • #7302
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Your words are not enough. You have not backed up your statements.
    You really need to up your information intake.
    At this stage, I'm about ready to say that's not going to happen as it suggests the presence of capacity.


  • #7303
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Billy86 wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Go look at the pictures of the US supplied weapons taken by the Syrian government army. Obama has been supplying terrorists with weapons, people who have beheaded children. Shame on him.
    So which is it, 2006 or 1999 that Obama took office? A little information wouldn't hurt, you know. :)

    I said America founded ISIS, under Obama they have funded ISIS with weapons and other equipment.  

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/video-isis-terrorist-admits-we-are-being-funded-by/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym2EmUNKDE8


  • #7304
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    ebbsy wrote: »
    The year Obama took office.
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    I said America founded ISIS, under Obama they have funded ISIS with weapons and other equipment.  

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/video-isis-terrorist-admits-we-are-being-funded-by/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym2EmUNKDE8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BE95qqkTc0


  • #7305
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    RasTa wrote: »
    Surprised people still respond to him tbh.
    You do have a point, though I do have to admit to getting a kick out of his low information approaching causing him to unwittingly let us know that he thinks Trump is a failure. :p


  • #7306
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Go look at the pictures of the US supplied weapons taken by the Syrian government army. Obama has been supplying terrorists with weapons, people who have beheaded children. Shame on him.

    Your words are not enough. You have not backed up your statements.
    You really need to up your information intake.
     ISIS only grew as strong as they did because of the funding they received by the US government.


  • #7307
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    I said America founded ISIS, under Obama they have funded ISIS with weapons and other equipment.  
    Yet you responded to a post of mine asking ebbsy which year he thought Obama took office in, as ebbsy seems rather predictably confused on the matter.

    So what you're saying is Reagan founded ISIS? Can't say Trump and the vast majority of his fanbase would be happy with that one!


  • #7308
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Little Pony wrote: »
     ISIS only grew as strong as they did because of the funding they received by the US government.

    You mean the money and arms given to the Iraqi and Afghan army for example, who at the first sight of battle fled and left everything behind ?

    You're full of ****, ISIS as it exists now was founded in the late 1990's, the only difference was the name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#History

    Basically you're not even uninformed, you're just deliberately spouting complete and utter bull**** on purpose.


  • #7309
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    ebbsy wrote: »
    The year Obama took office.
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    I said America founded ISIS, under Obama they have funded ISIS with weapons and other equipment.  

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/video-isis-terrorist-admits-we-are-being-funded-by/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym2EmUNKDE8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BE95qqkTc0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAR8SaGYnX0

    US government funding ISIS terrorists in Syria.


  • #7310
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAR8SaGYnX0

    US government funding ISIS terrorists in Syria.

    Using Russia today as a source doesn't cut it.


  • #7311
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAR8SaGYnX0

    US government funding ISIS terrorists in Syria.

    Ah, that bastion of unbiased reporting that is RT :D


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  • #7312
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
     ISIS only grew as strong as they did because of the funding they received by the US government.

    You mean the money and arms given to the Iraqi and Afghan army for example, who at the first sight of battle fled and left everything behind ?

    You're full of ****, ISIS as it exists now was founded in the late 1990's, the only difference was the name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#History

    Basically you're not even uninformed, you're just deliberately spouting complete and utter bull**** on purpose.
    Go look at the evidence of arms dumps from the US government supplying ISIS. It could not be more clear, if you are in denial about it, that is fine, but the world knows the truth regarding the poxy war in Syria and the US backing terrorists to get rid of the Assad regime.


  • #7313
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Go look at the evidence of arms dumps from the US government supplying ISIS. It could not be more clear, if you are in denial about it, that is fine, but the world knows the truth regarding the poxy war in Syria and the US backing terrorists to get rid of the Assad regime.

    RT isn't evidence, so sorry to tell you.

    Also, maybe you are unaware of this thing called international arms smuggling, but it actually is perfectly possible for US-made arms to end up in basically everyone's hands if they have enough money.

    That's a bit of a downside to having such a massive military apparatus.

    Unfortunately, not proof of the US funding ISIS, no matter how much you keep posting RT videos.


  • #7314
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    A Little Pony wrote: »
     ISIS only grew as strong as they did because of the funding they received by the US government.

    Can you explain that a bit please. I thought is was the bad strategy in the Middle East. I didn't realise they were directly funded.


  • #7315
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAR8SaGYnX0

    US government funding ISIS terrorists in Syria.

    Ah, that bastion of unbiased reporting that is RT :D
    Are you saying they just made the video footage up? That is pushing it. It wouldn't be the first time the US has supplied Islamic terrorists with weapons.


  • #7316
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Are you saying they just made the video footage up? That is pushing it. It wouldn't be the first time the US has supplied Islamic terrorists with weapons.

    Your source is incredibly poor and low on information.


  • #7317
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Are you saying they just made the video footage up? That is pushing it. It wouldn't be the first time the US has supplied Islamic terrorists with weapons.

    No, I'm saying they and you are using very vague evidence as some form of proof that the US directly funded ISIS.

    Do you know how much equipment the Iraqi and Afghan armies left when they flee battles against either the Taliban or ISIS ?

    ISIS videos themselves show how they capture bases filled with arms, trucks, ammo,...

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/12/isis-weapons-us-russia.html
    In the conflict-ridden Middle East, where military equipment passes from one hand to another faster than dollar bills, it is not uncommon to see Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga riding American Humvees. Yet, these fighters never officially received such thoughtful gifts from the United States. Some US-provided equipment has been captured by IS militants, who have in turn from time to time lost equipment to the Kurds, including after the battle for Makhmour.

    In a June Reuters blog post, “Dude, where's my Humvee?,” Peter Van Buren reported the loss of 2,300 Humvees to IS when the fighters of the self-proclaimed caliphate expanded toward Mosul in June 2014. That’s the figure for the northern Iraqi city alone. As they overran much of the Sunni Arab heartland that summer, the jihadists acquired a massive arsenal when Iraqi forces abandoned equipment in their haste to flee.


  • #7318
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Go look at the evidence of arms dumps from the US government supplying ISIS. It could not be more clear, if you are in denial about it, that is fine, but the world knows the truth regarding the poxy war in Syria and the US backing terrorists to get rid of the Assad regime.

    RT isn't evidence, so sorry to tell you.

    Also, maybe you are unaware of this thing called international arms smuggling, but it actually is perfectly possible for US-made arms to end up in basically everyone's hands if they have enough money.

    That's a bit of a downside to having such a massive military apparatus.

    Unfortunately, not proof of the US funding ISIS, no matter how much you keep posting RT videos.
    Did you read the Guardian link I posted? Another one I posted. http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881


  • #7319
    Exeggcute
    Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭Exeggcute


    Guys if you want to be credible you should be using sources like the New York Times.

    They have an excellent record of unbiased factual reporting.

    Or CNN


  • #7320
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    globalresearch is a conspiracy website, you're not doing your credibility (in so far you have any left) any good by using them as a source.

    The same website that posts conspiracy theories on how vaccines are bad, the US did 9/11, HAARP, FEMA camps,...
    That doesn't mean the US has never backed or created such groups, but the evidence that they are behind ISIS is non-existent.


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  • #7321
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    I wouldn't be surprised that the US has funded terrorist groups, some of which have ended up as part of Daesh. That's a little different to "Obama founded ISIS" (he signed "B. Obama, Muslim" on the insurance documentation, you know) though.

    America's foreign policy has been interfering for decades at this stage. I would not absolve the US from any involvement in the current absolute ****show that is the Middle East at the moment. But to try and say that the Middle East was lovely shlovely until the Big Bad Barack came along is insanely reductive and absolutely mockworthy. He continued policies that had been coming with serious side-effects. Just like all of the ones before him. At this stage, I am unsure if isolationism will actually work out. The ****show has hit such epic proportions that the western world doesn't get to just turn its back and hope it goes away by itself by now.


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