El Presidente Trump

Jelle1880 · 23-12-2016 08:25PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Of course not. Apparently three million more people want Hillary than want Trump.
I just happened to A: disagree with them, and B: believe they had no business voting in a country in which they undercut legal migrants by illegally getting into.

Zero proof that those 3 million are all illegal immigrants, I assume ?

Anyway, it amuses me to no end to see the usual suspects in here only talking about his inauguration and how we 'have to deal with it' :pac:
As if there's anyone in this thread denying he will be president. They don't even ****ing live there and their only goal seems to be to rub it in other people's faces. Kindergarten stuff.

The same people however who are up in arms if their great leader with the tiny hands is mocked :pac:
'omg why can't you guys just let it go'

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 08:39PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You literally have absolutely zero proof that those 3 million extra are all illegal immigrants though. Not that that stopped you claiming things in the past, mind

Lol, what because Brian Dobson didn't frown disapprovingly and announce it on the six-one?
You're refusing to see why people, who's best interests lie in keeping Trump out, wouldn't work towards keeping him out, despite people being fired over their attempts to do so, and I'm refusing go against my, (frankly self indulgently, arsehole-ey believed) far superior understanding of human nature.

I can't prove *to you* that there were Ford engines in the Nazis trucks or British and Dutch engineered lead in their planes, but something tells me that that's literally because I can't do the only thing you'd accept, and bring you back in time and show you

Jelle1880 · 23-12-2016 08:42PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Lol, what because Brian Dobson didn't frown disapprovingly and announce it on the six-one?
You're refusing to see why people, who's best interests lie in keeping Trump out, wouldn't work towards keeping him out, despite people being fired over their attempts to do so, and I'm refusing go against my, (frankly self indulgently, arsehole-ey believed) far superior understanding of human nature.

I can't prove *to you* that there were Ford engines in the Nazis trucks or British and Dutch engineered lead in their planes, but something tells me that that's literally because I can't do the only thing you'd accept, and bring you back in time and show you

No because you have no proof at all, I thought my post was pretty clear. And neither does Trump.

Not that that stops him, of course. Nor you it seems.
Do you understand voter ID laws in the US ? Because I can tell you for a fact that even though several states technically don't need your ID, they will need other forms of identification or pre-registration to allow you to vote.

You seem to believe that Manuel from Tijuana can cross the border illegally, head straight to the voting booth and put his cross next to Hillary's name ?

https://www.quora.com/How-do-illegal-immigrants-illegally-vote-during-presidential-elections

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 08:44PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Zero proof that those 3 million are all illegal immigrants, I assume ?

Anyway, it amuses me to no end to see the usual suspects in here only talking about his inauguration and how we 'have to deal with it' :pac:
As if there's anyone in this thread denying he will be president. They don't even ****ing live there and their only goal seems to be to rub it in other people's faces. Kindergarten stuff.

The same people however who are up in arms if their great leader with the tiny hands is mocked :pac:
'omg why can't you guys just let it go'

Again, creating a little personal narrative in which you can feel more vindicated for yourself.
Mabye it's because I haven't been on enough, but all I've seen is you lot talk about how mad Trump's supporters are getting over really inconsequential bull**** like "hurr small hands, lol". But I haven't actually once seen a supporter here doing it. His supporters have an awful lot less to come to terms with and "get over" than his detractors do, at least in this thread, but you all keep telling yourselves otherwise if it's easier for you than.... whatever else..

Jelle1880 · 23-12-2016 08:50PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Again, creating a little personal narrative in which you can feel more vindicated for yourself.
Mabye it's because I haven't been on enough, but all I've seen is you lot talk about how mad Trump's supporters are getting over really inconsequential bull**** like "hurr small hands, lol". But I haven't actually once seen a supporter here doing it. His supporters have an awful lot less to come to terms with and "get over" than his detractors do, at least in this thread, but you all keep telling yourselves otherwise if it's easier for you than.... whatever else..

Nothing to do with creating a narrative, merely saying what I see from Trump fans on here.

Supposedly people have to accept he won but get 'BUT HILLARY!' thrown back at them when they actually want to talk about Trump

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 08:58PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

No because you have no proof at all, I thought my post was pretty clear. And neither does Trump.

Not that that stops him, of course. Nor you it seems.
Do you understand voter ID laws in the US ? Because I can tell you for a fact that even though several states technically don't need your ID, they will need other forms of identification or pre-registration to allow you to vote.

You seem to believe that Manuel from Tijuana can cross the border illegally, head straight to the voting booth and put his cross next to Hillary's name ?

No, I don't - aw Jaysus you know what here, watch some """"Fake News"""" so fake it got people fired.

I'm not even going to tell you where it is, you want it, you're going to have to see everything else they do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQvsK5w-jY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBrZItwVy4

Although I'll apologise for the atrocious music. Americans and their "dramatic emphasis"....

ECO_Mental · 23-12-2016 09:03PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Israel has accused Obama and his administration of abandoning Israel in a "shameful move".

Israel dislikes the Obama administration so much they rang Trump about a UN resolution to stop Israel building new settlements in the West Bank.
Trump then rang the Egyptian president who were behind the resolution and they postponed it after chatting to Trump.

The Palestinians have also criticised the Obama administration for being so ineffective in Israel/Palestinian matters.

Meanwhile Putin sent Trump a letter, which Trump released to the public.
"I hope that after you assume the position of the President of the United States of America we will be able – by acting in a constructive and pragmatic manner - to take real steps to restore the framework of bilateral cooperation in different areas as well as bring our level of collaboration on the international scene to a qualitatively new level,"

Trumps first go at international politics = fail

UN just passes the bill condeming Israel of building settlements, the US obsatains from the vote.

Jelle1880 · 23-12-2016 09:04PM

I've seen those videos, they are made by a group that is run by James O'Keefe. Plenty of his previous videos have been debunked, let's just say his credibility isn't all it's cracked up to be

My favourite one is where he supposedly provides proof that Hillary in person asked people to dress up as ducks to protest Trump, somehow breaking the law.

Too bad they didn't actually break any law.

Do you also know Project Veritas was donated to by the Trump foundation ? Shocking, I know

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 09:11PM

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Trumps first go at international politics = fail

UN just passes the bill condeming Israel of building settlements, the US obsatains from the vote.

To be fair, that was never going to change. Anyone expecting Israel to get a "good talking to" clearly doesn't know what AIPAC is. As long as they exist, Palestine doesn't.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 09:12PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I've seen those videos, they are made by a group that is run by James O'Keefe. Plenty of his previous videos have been debunked, let's just say his credibility isn't all it's cracked up to be
My favourite one is where he supposedly provides proof that Hillary in person asked people to dress up as ducks to protest Trump, somehow breaking the law.

Too bad they didn't actually break any law.

Do you also know Project Veritas was donated to by the Trump foundation ? Shocking, I know

He should have made a hidden cam video asking the Clinton foundation for the money instead

B_Wayne · 23-12-2016 09:13PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

No, I don't - aw Jaysus you know what here, watch some """"Fake News"""" so fake it got people fired.

I'm not even going to tell you where it is, you want it, you're going to have to see everything else they do

Although I'll apologise for the atrocious music. Americans and their "dramatic emphasis"....

Ah, youtube videographer, the great source of information. The chap is as credible as 911 inside job conspiracy theorists.... You can't provide a reputable source, can you?

The Rape of Lucretia · 23-12-2016 09:24PM

Trump today : the United States "must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes."

“Let it be an arms race,” the President-Elect said.

If we though The Donald just might be an joke and non event president becalming the US for 4 years, it is starting to look more and more like he is truly dangerous and probably genuinely incompetent to do the job.

Is there a facility in the US system to remove him from office ?

Jelle1880 · 23-12-2016 09:26PM

And in the meantime Putin came out saying that Russia is not interested in an arms race. At least they have the decency to do it under the radar :pac:

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 09:37PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

And it seems you're under the impression these aren't a lot easier to falsify/circumvent than identification papers.
It was even explained by the associates of the DNC on video, who were later thrown under the bus to save the DNCs skin "fired, because that's not how we at the DNC do business", how to do it.

Except you thought you just had to show up at a polling place and say you wanted to vote and your be allowed to.

Now you're saying there were three million people voting fraudulently with forged ID papers?

You were wrong about that and you've now failed to show evidence of voter fraud.

Just face it that in the US system you can win the presidency but lose the peoples vote.

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 09:47PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Is there a facility in the US system to remove him from office ?

The 25th Amendment of the constitution I think.

He would have to be seriously incapacitated though.

He could also be impeached by the senate for "high crimes and misdemeanors".

Igotadose · 23-12-2016 09:57PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

No, I don't - aw Jaysus you know what here, watch some """"Fake News"""" so fake it got people fired.

James O'Keefe - not (yet?) the convicted felon criminal Breitbart was, but he's working on it: http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/06/23/james-o-keefe-still-not-journalist/211148

Here's a note to the Trump supporters: There's truth, and there's lies. Facts, and falsehoods. Not truthiness. Not 'fact spread.'

Trump lives in the gray area where lies, repeated often enough, become 'truthy' which is good enough. Frankly, Trump's not the problem. It's the people that vote for him. But, he's there now. If there hadn't been a Trump there'd be someone else the next time, who'd have been perhaps more subtle and worse.

Though, it remains to be seen just how worse. Arms races for nuclear weapons, no abortion, suppression of minority votes, increase in hate crimes, it really is 1950 again.

At least Sheriff Joe, the re-incarnation of Bull Connor, is finally out of office.

The Rape of Lucretia · 23-12-2016 10:05PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

The 25th Amendment of the constitution I think.

He would have to be seriously incapacitated though.

He could also be impeached by the senate for "high crimes and misdemeanors".

I am assuming he stays healthy and does not shoot himself in the foot that would trigger an impeachment.

Rather, the congress, senate, or electorate being able, in any way, to deselect him. In the manner that a prime minister can lose a vote of confidence in a parliament.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 10:11PM

Igotadose wrote: »

James O'Keefe - not (yet?) the convicted felon criminal Breitbart was, but he's working on it: http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/06/23/james-o-keefe-still-not-journalist/211148

Here's a note to the Trump supporters: There's truth, and there's lies. Facts, and falsehoods. Not truthiness. Not 'fact spread.'

Trump lives in the gray area where lies, repeated often enough, become 'truthy' which is good enough. Frankly, Trump's not the problem. It's the people that vote for him. But, he's there now. If there hadn't been a Trump there'd be someone else the next time, who'd have been perhaps more subtle and worse.

Though, it remains to be seen just how worse. Arms races for nuclear weapons, no abortion, suppression of minority votes, increase in hate crimes, it really is 1950 again.

At least Sheriff Joe, the re-incarnation of Bull Connor, is finally out of office.

I got as far as:

In March, O’Keefe accidentally detailed plans to send an “undercover” operative to secretly infiltrate the liberal philanthropist George Soros

Now I continued reading, but anyone who can with a straight face call that piece of cancer a philanthropist does teo things. Firstly, they play their part in the destruction of the meaning of the word, like the people calling people who don't dislike Trump "Nazis". Secondly, they completely lose my interest. I'll read but dammed if I'll react.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 10:18PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Except you thought you just had to show up at a polling place and say you wanted to vote and your be allowed to.

Now you're saying there were three million people voting fraudulently with forged ID papers?

You were wrong about that and you've now failed to show evidence of voter fraud.

Just face it that in the US system you can win the presidency but lose the peoples vote.

Unless it's shown on CNN, you won't accept it anyway. I also noticed how quickly Jill Stein's efforts got shut down in Michigan when "irregularities" for the Democratic vote showed up, so yes, I do believe it's possible to come up with a lot more than three million fraudulent votes.

Even in states where you don't have to show forms of identification that would out you as having illegally entered the country to get on a voting roll, you still shouldn't be allowed on the voting roll.

jimmy blevins · 23-12-2016 10:31PM

President Trump is like a Reagan with dementia.....Oh wait.

humanji · 23-12-2016 11:15PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I got as far as:

Now I continued reading, but anyone who can with a straight face call that piece of cancer a philanthropist does teo things. Firstly, they play their part in the destruction of the meaning of the word, like the people calling people who don't dislike Trump "Nazis". Secondly, they completely lose my interest. I'll read but dammed if I'll react.

What exactly is wrong with Soros? It's hard to find any solid information because you either get site that say nothing or conspiracy sites, so it there a level headed reason the right hates him, other than he funds liberal organisation?

ebbsy · 23-12-2016 11:20PM

I see Putin has buried the Democrats in an interview today. He had their number all along and crushed them one final time today. He sensed Obama was weak right from the get go and took advantage at every opportunity.

He is a very clever leader.

B_Wayne · 23-12-2016 11:23PM

humanji wrote: »

What exactly is wrong with Soros? It's hard to find any solid information because you either get site that say nothing or conspiracy sites, so it there a level headed reason the right hates him, other than he funds liberal organisation?

Most of the obsession with Soros seems to be antisemetic conspiracies tbh. Some extraordinarily nasty things said about him including saying he was a "Nazi collaborator".... Seems like a genuinely good person tbh.

HellSquirrel · 23-12-2016 11:38PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Of course not. Apparently three million more people want Hillary than want Trump.
I just happened to A: disagree with them, and B: believe they had no business voting in a country in which they undercut legal migrants by illegally getting into.

Interesting that you reckon all votes that suggest a majority doesn't agree with you are null and void because they're obviously either illegally cast and/or possibly don't exist.

It seems cowardly and arrogant from here, but I suppose it's how the man himself thinks as well.

Christy42 · 24-12-2016 01:22AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Unless it's shown on CNN, you won't accept it anyway. I also noticed how quickly Jill Stein's efforts got shut down in Michigan when "irregularities" for the Democratic vote showed up, so yes, I do believe it's possible to come up with a lot more than three million fraudulent votes.

Even in states where you don't have to show forms of identification that would out you as having illegally entered the country to get on a voting roll, you still shouldn't be allowed on the voting roll.

Man if only we could some right wing people in power. Especially some interested in law and order. They would get to the bottom of all this obvious fraud.

conditioned games · 24-12-2016 01:34AM

Anytime people talk about George Soros I picture mr Burns from the Simpsons. Soros really is your stereotypical evil illuminati. Collaborated with the Nazi's by telling on fellow Jews before he made his way to America and now funds organisations intent on bringing upheaval to the world. No surprises he was a big fan of the Clintons.

Jelle1880 · 24-12-2016 01:39AM

B_Wayne wrote: »

Most of the obsession with Soros seems to be antisemetic conspiracies tbh. Some extraordinarily nasty things said about him including saying he was a "Nazi collaborator".... Seems like a genuinely good person tbh.

conditioned games wrote: »

Anytime people talk about George Soros I picture mr Burns from the Simpsons. Soros really is your stereotypical evil illuminati. Collaborated with the Nazi's by telling on fellow Jews before he made his way to America and now funds organisations intent on bringing upheaval to the world. No surprises he was a big fan of the Clintons.

lolza.

It's like you said a secret word that triggered that post.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-12-2016 02:01AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ar80sFzViw

Igotadose · 24-12-2016 09:40AM

jimmy blevins wrote: »

President Trump is like a Reagan with dementia.....Oh wait.

I wish boards gave us +1000 or something this made my morning. Love it.

Igotadose · 24-12-2016 11:39AM

http://www.vox.com/2016/12/13/13901874/obamacare-trump-voter-health-insurance-repeal

Summary: Didn't think Trump'd repeal Obamacare which was a huge improvement to their lives. Well now they're in big trouble.

I just don't get people voting against their own best interests, in this case it really is a matter of life & death.

My prediction: cosmetic changes to Obamacare and a rename, and nothing else. Trump goes up in my book if he actually does do something about drug prices - I doubt it though his cabinets up to their eyeballs in the big Pharma swamp.

Side: watch out for statins, they're bad for you, best thing I ever did was stop taking them.

El Presidente Trump

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