Louise O Neill on rape culture.

Maguined · 22-12-2016 09:26AM

Sasha Wide Squash wrote: »

The Courtney one has blocked/"protected" her tweets unless your a confirmed follower of hers

She has also made her blog protected. In her blog she wrote about the exchange with the evil white male on twitter. In the comments section of the blog post someone linked her to this thread letting her know it was being discussed. She responded thanking for the notification but she said there was nothing she could do about this thread. She has probably continued to follow this thread and despite the fact she was willing to blog about her criticism of the twitter guys criticism she does not like the criticsm she has received on this thread so has made both private.

Wait for it to die down and then both will be back public to continue the struggle against angry white men.

Wibbs · 22-12-2016 09:34AM

Maguined wrote: »

She has probably continued to follow this thread and despite the fact she was willing to blog about her criticism of the twitter guys criticism she does not like the criticsm she has received on this thread so has made both private.

Rarely has this meme been so fitting https://pics.onsizzle.com/13-100-opinions-opinions-help-misogyny-anti-femcomics-1638460.png

The Rape of Lucretia · 22-12-2016 10:51AM

Maguined wrote: »

In her blog she wrote about the exchange with the evil white male on twitter. In the comments section of the blog post someone linked her to this thread letting her know it was being discussed. She responded thanking for the notification but she said there was nothing she could do about this thread.

Why would she be thinking she should 'do' anything about it at all ?

Wibbs · 22-12-2016 11:07AM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Why would she be thinking she should 'do' anything about it at all ?

Because there is often an element of spoiled child going on and like spoiled children they just assume they'll get their own way. Much of this comes from the fact that a middle class college white girl is a protected species. She will have come to expect this. An irony they never get.

osarusan · 22-12-2016 11:32AM

Maguined wrote: »

She has also made her blog protected. In her blog she wrote about the exchange with the evil white male on twitter. In the comments section of the blog post someone linked her to this thread letting her know it was being discussed. She responded thanking for the notification but she said there was nothing she could do about this thread. She has probably continued to follow this thread and despite the fact she was willing to blog about her criticism of the twitter guys criticism she does not like the criticsm she has received on this thread so has made both private.

Wait for it to die down and then both will be back public to continue the struggle against angry white men.

I don't get this.

This girl was, until yesterday, never mentioned on this thread before. Now she is (to say it is being 'discussed' is laughable) and it seems like soon after she was told about it, she's responded by making her posts private.

Sure, her imaginary battles are sad stuff, but searching for some online content from an overwrought girl and posting her inane content up here to be laughed at is fairly f**king sad stuff too.

Maguined · 22-12-2016 11:48AM

osarusan wrote: »

I don't get this.

This girl was, until yesterday, never mentioned on this thread before. Now she is (to say it is being 'discussed' is laughable) and it seems like soon after she was told about it, she's responded by making her posts private.

Sure, her imaginary battles are sad stuff, but searching for some online content from an overwrought girl and posting her inane content up here to be laughed at is fairly f**king sad stuff too.

She was brought into the discussion by another poster as she had posted on LON's twitter and the back and forth exchange between herself and some twitter guy was used as an example of the frame of logic used by LON and those that support her.

Publically criticising others for their views while hiding your own the moment yours are criticised is just a simple example of "do as we say not as we do" which is pretty relevant to this thread topic do you not think?

osarusan · 22-12-2016 11:52AM

Maguined wrote: »

Publically criticising others for their views while hiding your own the moment yours are criticised is just a simple example of "do as we say not as we do" which is pretty relevant to this thread topic do you not think?

On a thread titled Louise O'Neill on rape culture - content from a girl who isn't Louise O'Neill and made no comment on rape culture - no, I do not think so.

I do think it's much more simple, along the lines of 'haha, look another triggered clown'.

As I said, I think searching for some inane content with just a tenuous connection to the thread content to laugh about/be derisive of is pretty damn sad.

Wibbs · 22-12-2016 12:26PM

osarusan wrote: »

I don't get this.

This girl was, until yesterday, never mentioned on this thread before. Now she is (to say it is being 'discussed' is laughable) and it seems like soon after she was told about it, she's responded by making her posts private.

IIRC she was linked to this thread by tweet? And she then went off on one about sad white men online and the like.

Its two sides of the same coin to a degree. One side puts up something, others respond pro/nay. It does get a bit silly when the responses don't go their way and they strop off. That goes for all echo chambers mind you. The neo Right wing are usually just as childish as the progressives.

Sure, her imaginary battles are sad stuff, but searching for some online content from an overwrought girl and posting her inane content up here to be laughed at is fairly f**king sad stuff too.

TBH yeah, it does feel like kicking a child alright. From my brief glimpse of her bio she's 20, in college and blogs about mental illnesses she has. Yer wan O'Neill comes out with similar, but a) she's old enough to know better, or should be b) sets her attention seeking to kill, c) she's making a living out of it and d) has the ear of muppets in RTE and no doubt the slow of wit in government depts.

One is a kid on the interwebs, the other a professional troll/"feminist"[delete as applicable]. It is a problem with the internet. The lines between ordinary Joe or Jane O'Soap and Pro hawking their wares can be hard to differentiate.

Widdershins · 22-12-2016 01:04PM

osarusan wrote: »

I don't get this.

This girl was, until yesterday, never mentioned on this thread before. Now she is (to say it is being 'discussed' is laughable) and it seems like soon after she was told about it, she's responded by making her posts private.

Sure, her imaginary battles are sad stuff, but searching for some online content from an overwrought girl and posting her inane content up here to be laughed at is fairly f**king sad stuff too.

Just an example of a LON groupie and young Irish woman sucked in by the nasty venomous anti-white (men) 'movement'.

midnight city · 22-12-2016 02:00PM

Widdershins wrote: »

Just an example of a LON groupie and young Irish woman sucked in by the nasty venomous anti-white (men) 'movement'.

That girl (i won't name her anymore as she could be any young irish white girl spouting this crap) at 20 years of age in a western country doesn't realise how lucky she is. The whole of society has been realigned to suit her. She is absolutely privileged.

If she breaks the law she will be treated leniently, if she divorces later in life she will get the house and the kids, she is more likely to go to college, more likely to be hired and promoted these days, gender quotas are in her favor. Medical care is in her favour, length of life in her favour. Its amazing to me that someone like her could complain about her white brothers, father, sons, friends, boyfriends.

deaddonkey15 · 22-12-2016 02:13PM

midnight city wrote: »

Its amazing to me that someone like her could complain about her white brothers, father, sons, friends, boyfriends.

It's amazing to me that she thinks the idea of online abuse or trolling is something that only women suffer from and only white men perpetrate. Half of misogynistic abuse online comes from other women. Whether they're black or white I don't know, but it isn't really relevant either. The point is, this is what happens when impressionable people actually take the likes of O'Neill and Mullaly seriously. Unbiased perspective goes out the window.

osarusan · 22-12-2016 09:08PM

Wibbs wrote: »

IIRC she was linked to this thread by tweet? And she then went off on one about sad white men online and the like.

Yeah I think she was notified that her tweets were now the subject of this thread. The 'white man' stuff is nonsense, but coming to the conclusion that she was dealing with some sad people and then making her account private seems pretty rational to me (if that is what happened).

Wibbs wrote: »

Its two sides of the same coin to a degree. One side puts up something, others respond pro/nay. It does get a bit silly when the responses don't go their way and they strop off. That goes for all echo chambers mind you. The neo Right wing are usually just as childish as the progressives.

Indeed. Two groups who are desperately trying to find something, anything at all, that will let them wallow in their imagined persecution.

RabbleRouser2k · 22-12-2016 10:31PM

Magmas wrote: »

In past history, humanity consisted of tribes and groups in perpetual war. When one tribe would conquer another, they would often rape their women as an act of ultimate domination. Since then, these tribes and groups have settled into nations, relatively at peace with one another. However, this has constituted a shift in the psyche, where rather than collectives being at war with other collectives in gross terms, now every individual is at war with every other individual in a subtle sense. In this set-up, men regard casual sex unconsciously as being like "conquering" or dominating other men's potential wives and child bearers. Sex in the modern world has become highly dysfunctional. Narcissistic on the side of the male, and masochistic on the side of the female.

IT wasn't just women-for men it was known as 'vi praedonum vel hostium' aka rape during war. Rape was normally punishable in many countries-but during war, women, men, children could seek no retribution for a rape-as it was just seen as 'acts of war'.

No, I don't think it was right-certainly isn't right now either. Sadly, though, what is right and what happens are two separate things.

RabbleRouser2k · 23-12-2016 08:39AM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

In fairness to the editors, if there was no market for her nonsense they wouldn't hire her. There is huge money to be made from what she is doing. I see a lot of people saying most people don't believe that stuff but I disagree. I am in my early 40's and even I hear people mirroring her nonsense. My 50 year old brother played that fcuking 'Consent is like offer a cup of Tea' video to the family one year. Don't underestimate that effect that all this crap is having. That's why dopes like Blindboy are going on TV pontificating to men that they need more feminism in their lives. It's as fashionable as starbucks right now and he wants a slice. Girl Power has been replaced by Victimhood Power. They see themselves as some kind of resistance movement to the ever oppressing patriarchy.

Basically Louise cries wolf for a living and she's coining it in as a result.

Funnily enough, that same Blindboy video has a significant more unlikes than likes.

So people aren't buying that sort of nonsense.

RonFan · 23-12-2016 12:32PM

Let's be honest here, all of the traits or so called "privileges" men - according to this feminist view point - supposedly possess and enjoy at the expense of women are not actually conductive to happiness or well being, at all. They may well be conductive to a kind of fake personal power yes, and only because today we live in a culture that is utterly engulfed in such bravado, can it seem there's a legitimate point to feminism. All that today's women (albeit a minority of them) spouting this false nonsense achieves is encouraging the further generations of women to do the same, with added neurotic vigor.

The Rape of Lucretia · 23-12-2016 11:24PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/father-christmas-oppresive-male-stereotype-need-santa-claudia/

Good article on the white male deceit that is Santa Clause, and would welcome Louise's thoughts on that particular aspect of Christmas.

(never made the secret male stranger leaving gifts while passing through during the night = mother is having an affair, link myself. Crikey. I was so blind).

Widdershins · 23-12-2016 11:31PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/father-christmas-oppresive-male-stereotype-need-santa-claudia/

Good article on the white male deceit that is Santa Clause, and would welcome Louise's thoughts on that particular aspect of Christmas.

(never made the secret male stranger leaving gifts while passing through during the night = mother is having an affair, link myself. Crikey. I was so blind).

Is it my stupidity or a sign of the times that I don't know if that's satire nor serious?

The phallic nature of chimneys..........

Ulysses Gaze · 23-12-2016 11:45PM

Widdershins wrote: »

Is it my stupidity or a sign of the times that I don't know if that's satire nor serious?

The phallic nature of chimneys..........

The Telegraph is an irony free zone...

Widdershins · 24-12-2016 12:01AM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

The Telegraph is an irony free zone...

The article reads a little bit like The Guardian on steroids

The Rape of Lucretia · 24-12-2016 12:12AM

Widdershins wrote: »

The phallic nature of chimneys..........

I think they are misreading that one frankly, though as noted, it is only the Telegraph.
From an early age, I would, without question have seen the chimney as the birth canal, with a man, reborn every year, covered in red blood, as the ultimate reaffirmation of eternal male virility and dominance.
And I think that his how everyone, at least from the age of about three, makes sense of the mysterious annual visitor, with 11 abortions in the intervening months, presumed.
The arrival of this 'chosen one', prompting the feasting and celebrating, the next day.

Widdershins · 24-12-2016 12:14AM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

I think they are misreading that one frankly, though as noted, it is only the Telegraph.
From an early age, I would, without question have seen the chimney as the birth canal, with a man, reborn every year, covered in red blood, as the ultimate reaffirmation of eternal male virility and dominance.
And I think that his how everyone, at least from the age of about three, makes sense of the mysterious annual visitor, with 11 abortions in the intervening months, presumed.
The arrival of this 'chosen one', prompting the feasting and celebrating, the next day.

Ahh! So..what does soot represent?

mzungu · 24-12-2016 01:01AM

Santa Claudia...it could work for some :pac: Although, it sounds like the name of one of those small fishing villages you would find in the Caribbean.

I reckon the article is most likely tongue in cheek.

RabbleRouser2k · 24-12-2016 03:33AM

Well Courtney,has re-opened her twitter feed. And yeah, she's been reading the boards-the white man getting a bashing. But she's disclosed details about her own mental health. I won't say anything more about her, tbh, because she doesn't sound well, at the moment. So I would just encourage her to look after herself, and in some ways, maybe easing back on social media might be a better choice. That's the last I'll say of her.

As for Louise O'Neill, well, first of all, one of the things that struck me about her documentary, a word I use in the loosest terms I can use, is that some of the clips she used were from pornography aimed at women, actual arthouse porn, written by, directed by, and aimed at women. One such film was All about Anna, which had then unknown actress Eileen Daly (she also did Big Brother) in a porn role. That wasn't made for porn, it was 'art house' but yeah, still porn(Lars Von Trier's Pink manifesto). Ok, so no acknowledgement then that women view pornography? That its in equal measurements to men, so much so that many companies are now focusing a significant effort on making pornography for women (it's not ethics, it's money).
She did mention Brock Turner, but doesn't mention the widespread revulsion many men, including VP Joe Biden, had when they read of the incident-and how Brock was treated in custody.
Nor did she mention that the two guys who stumbled on this rapist, and stopped things getting (even) worse, were absolutely horrified and sickened by Turner's actions-one vomited and cried. Turner is a disgusting individual, nobody in their right mind (And his dad is not in his right mind-he sounds like another level of inhuman scum) would condone his behaviour.
There were other elements of it I just cringed at-she hardly spoke to psychologists or specialists. When she did, she spoke over them-her hypotheticals were worth more than their knowledge-God. The only positives were when she allowed those who waived their right to anonymity to speak about their own rapes.
I think she knew she would look bad if she spoke over them.
She has a habit of 'dressing' fashionably, but even the promo photo for it looked dodgy-it's a courtroom, dress the part-no matter what, you turn up to court, you don't go in thigh high boots and a short skirt.

She written articles about her dating habits before-one such article, that always stood out to me was her dating a 22 year old student. Now, don't get me wrong-I have no issue with age gaps between consenting adults, be they an older man dating an older woman, and older woman dating an older man, or an LGBT couple with an age gap between em-Stephen Fry and his husband, Sarah Paulson and her girlfriend. I've no issue with that.
What irked me was she was so immature about the relationship-dismissive of him, of staying over in his place whilst he lived in student accomodation, his efforts to be tidy and so on not matching up, the kind of shenanigans students get up. Inclduing having to get a mattress for a friend. If you are dating someone who is either a student, a vet, or a doctor etc (to name a few jobs where your phone is on constantly because of night calls) one of the massive downsides is that despite their love for their partner, the job comes first, cos lives can be at risk (and in veterinary, so could livelihoods-its horrible to have to call a vet at 3 am, but it happens. I grew up on a farm, I remember it vividly, unfortunately. Most of the time one would have a positive result from the call, but there were the odd sad tragedies). With a student, their degree comes first, their studies come first-yes they may party, but at the end of the day, he has priorities that come first. May even have to study for exams. So her acting up and writing in the article, tbh, came off as completey immature.
That relationship didn't last, I doubt too many of hers do, and then she was being all like 'I need an older man, 32 and up or whatever' (she was 30 at the time).
Well, I doubt too many want to put up with her dramatics. Even the younger guy probably ended the relationship. And also, I know many 30 something year olds who don't have their lives together. God, I lived with one before who was messy as all hell-like, seemed to think that the dishwasher would clean dishes stacked on top of each other-and she was working as a teacher. But the intelligent ones know that-they don't blame it on someone else.
She seems really immature tbh. I pity her, immensely.

Widdershins · 24-12-2016 03:45AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Well Courtney,has re-opened her twitter feed. And yeah, she's been reading the boards-the white man getting a bashing. But she's disclosed details about her own mental health. I won't say anything more about her, tbh, because she doesn't sound well, at the moment. So I would just encourage her to look after herself, and in some ways, maybe easing back on social media might be a better choice. That's the last I'll say of her.

As for Louise O'Neill, well, first of all, one of the things that struck me about her documentary, a word I use in the loosest terms I can use, is that some of the clips she used were from pornography aimed at women, actual arthouse porn, written by, directed by, and aimed at women. One such film was All about Anna, which had then unknown actress Eileen Daly (she also did Big Brother) in a porn role. That wasn't made for porn, it was 'art house' but yeah, still porn(Lars Von Trier's Pink manifesto). Ok, so no acknowledgement then that women view pornography? That its in equal measurements to men, so much so that many companies are now focusing a significant effort on making pornography for women (it's not ethics, it's money).
She did mention Brock Turner, but doesn't mention the widespread revulsion many men, including VP Joe Biden, had when they read of the incident-and how Brock was treated in custody.
Nor did she mention that the two guys who stumbled on this rapist, and stopped things getting (even) worse, were absolutely horrified and sickened by Turner's actions-one vomited and cried. Turner is a disgusting individual, nobody in their right mind (And his dad is not in his right mind-he sounds like another level of inhuman scum) would condone his behaviour.
There were other elements of it I just cringed at-she hardly spoke to psychologists or specialists. When she did, she spoke over them-her hypotheticals were worth more than their knowledge-God. The only positives were when she allowed those who waived their right to anonymity to speak about their own rapes.
I think she knew she would look bad if she spoke over them.
She has a habit of 'dressing' fashionably, but even the promo photo for it looked dodgy-it's a courtroom, dress the part-no matter what, you turn up to court, you don't go in thigh high boots and a short skirt.

She written articles about her dating habits before-one such article, that always stood out to me was her dating a 22 year old student. Now, don't get me wrong-I have no issue with age gaps between consenting adults, be they an older man dating an older woman, and older woman dating an older man, or an LGBT couple with an age gap between em-Stephen Fry and his husband, Sarah Paulson and her girlfriend. I've no issue with that.
What irked me was she was so immature about the relationship-dismissive of him, of staying over in his place whilst he lived in student accomodation, his efforts to be tidy and so on not matching up, the kind of shenanigans students get up. Inclduing having to get a mattress for a friend. If you are dating someone who is either a student, a vet, or a doctor etc (to name a few jobs where your phone is on constantly because of night calls) one of the massive downsides is that despite their love for their partner, the job comes first, cos lives can be at risk (and in veterinary, so could livelihoods-its horrible to have to call a vet at 3 am, but it happens. I grew up on a farm, I remember it vividly, unfortunately. Most of the time one would have a positive result from the call, but there were the odd sad tragedies). With a student, their degree comes first, their studies come first-yes they may party, but at the end of the day, he has priorities that come first. May even have to study for exams. So her acting up and writing in the article, tbh, came off as completey immature.
That relationship didn't last, I doubt too many of hers do, and then she was being all like 'I need an older man, 32 and up or whatever' (she was 30 at the time).
Well, I doubt too many want to put up with her dramatics. Even the younger guy probably ended the relationship. And also, I know many 30 something year olds who don't have their lives together. God, I lived with one before who was messy as all hell-like, seemed to think that the dishwasher would clean dishes stacked on top of each other-and she was working as a teacher. But the intelligent ones know that-they don't blame it on someone else.
She seems really immature tbh. I pity her, immensely.

That's a pity. The internet can be harsh and it's never nice to read about yourself. It's the risk you take when you're publicly doing something hurtful like generalising derisively and sarcastically based on gender and skin colour, no matter how much you think you're in the right.
I don't know the writer or hold any opinion on her, it's just that she touched on a hot topic that everyone on this thread is interested in. I'm sure she knows her views are controversial and has the courage of her convictions to accept dissenting views, but it can't be easy when she's feeling unwell.

I think you made an excellent point about the two men who found Brock Turner attacking the victim. So little is said about those two men that I had forgotten all about them!

Widdershins · 24-12-2016 03:46AM

mzungu wrote: »

Santa Claudia...it could work for some :pac: Although, it sounds like the name of one of those small fishing villages you would find in the Caribbean.

I reckon the article is most likely tongue in cheek.

Hardly gender neutral though. Or can you be neutral by wearing so many conflictingly gendered garments, and changing your name, that you cancel out all the genders..

RabbleRouser2k · 24-12-2016 03:58AM

Widdershins wrote: »

That's a pity. The internet can be harsh and it's never nice to read about yourself. It's the risk you take when you're publicly doing something hurtful like generalising derisively and sarcastically based on gender and skin colour, no matter how much you think you're in the right.
I don't know the writer or hold any opinion on her, it's just that she touched on a hot topic that everyone on this thread is interested in. I'm sure she knows her views are controversial and has the courage of her convictions to accept dissenting views, but it can't be easy when she's feeling unwell.

I think you made an excellent point about the two men who found Brock Turner attacking the victim. So little is said about those two men that I had forgotten all about them!

It was definitely made notice of in other media, even the Huffington Post spoke about it, with that site, and others, labelling them heroes. Rightfully so, I feel. Considering how little Turner cares for others, he may very well have ried to keep her quiet, permanently. So despite her horrible ordeal, I am grateful she survived.

I am none too fond of Ian O'Doherty, but he has often called out folks who claim craziness-including extreme feminists. And other 'I've been hurt, hug me'. I may disagree with him, but I'm grateful he's there. Even if he got it so wrong regarding the comments he made about Gerry Ryan and his 'habit'.

LON reminds me an awful lot of Laci Green, tbh. She's another 'fembot' prone to histrionics-her twitter feed in light of Trump winning was just bat crap lunacy.

Widdershins · 24-12-2016 04:04AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

It was definitely made notice of in other media, even the Huffington Post spoke about it, with that site, and others, labelling them heroes. Rightfully so, I feel. Considering how little Turner cares for others, he may very well have ried to keep her quiet, permanently. So despite her horrible ordeal, I am grateful she survived.

I am none too fond of Ian O'Doherty, but he has often called out folks who claim craziness-including extreme feminists. And other 'I've been hurt, hug me'. I may disagree with him, but I'm grateful he's there. Even if he got it so wrong regarding the comments he made about Gerry Ryan and his 'habit'.

LON reminds me an awful lot of Laci Green, tbh. She's another 'fembot' prone to histrionics-her twitter feed in light of Trump winning was just bat crap lunacy.

I meant now, rather than immediately after the event. Not many people seem to mention the guys who found the poor woman. But then the people who talk about her ordeal are talking about it to make a point against men so why would they mention two male heroes?

Is it good to be validating the dark side of someones mental illness, which, in my opinion, is what is behind the consistent damning of men. Is it actually healing and cathartic for them or are they perpetually picking an emotional scab, and encouraging other victims to do the same? That's what I wonder about LON.

I was assaulted too, and while I do want people to feel safe to talk about difficult things, it makes me feel grim to listen to her or read what she thinks. It's bleak.

RabbleRouser2k · 24-12-2016 04:42AM

Widdershins wrote: »

I meant now, rather than immediately after the event. Not many people seem to mention the guys who found the poor woman. But then the people who talk about her ordeal are talking about it to make a point against men so why would they mention two male heroes?

Is it good to be validating the dark side of someones mental illness, which, in my opinion, is what is behind the consistent damning of men. Is it actually healing and cathartic for them or are they perpetually picking an emotional scab, and encouraging other victims to do the same? That's what I wonder about LON.

I was assaulted too, and while I do want people to feel safe to talk about difficult things, it makes me feel grim to listen to her or read what she thinks. It's bleak.

True, I agree there. It was a huge point of the show that she failed to include, and she should have-because it was pretty important.

I genuinely don't know-but from my own experience, maybe. Like, she was 'told' by a psychologist that a sexual experience was 'non-consensual' which is such grey language, really, so it's so annoying to hear it. Say rape, say sexual assault, but saying that is literally just using language that won't get her sued. Similar to how Amy Schumer used it. (And she's another fembot who's really lost her mind).
Like-it's like the vindictive mean girls you know in school, with their accusations. It's so immature. Their protestations of strength and so on-sounds like they're weak, tbh. It's like ppl who say 'I don't give a toss' when they do, they care enormously.

I'm very sorry to hear that Widdershins. I have spoken to men and women who were raped or sexually assaulted (one was abused by her father, another was abused in industrial schools). And it sickens me to hear about it, but the strength of some of those I have met-the one's who say 'it wasn't my fault, i've no reason to carry any blame' are the one's who show real strength. They know a rapist is a sicko, so no, it is not their fault.
Her depiction and discussion is sheer misery, and nothing more.

Widdershins · 24-12-2016 05:19AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

True, I agree there. It was a huge point of the show that she failed to include, and she should have-because it was pretty important.

I genuinely don't know-but from my own experience, maybe. Like, she was 'told' by a psychologist that a sexual experience was 'non-consensual' which is such grey language, really, so it's so annoying to hear it. Say rape, say sexual assault, but saying that is literally just using language that won't get her sued. Similar to how Amy Schumer used it. (And she's another fembot who's really lost her mind).
Like-it's like the vindictive mean girls you know in school, with their accusations. It's so immature. Their protestations of strength and so on-sounds like they're weak, tbh. It's like ppl who say 'I don't give a toss' when they do, they care enormously.

I'm very sorry to hear that Widdershins. I have spoken to men and women who were raped or sexually assaulted (one was abused by her father, another was abused in industrial schools). And it sickens me to hear about it, but the strength of some of those I have met-the one's who say 'it wasn't my fault, i've no reason to carry any blame' are the one's who show real strength. They know a rapist is a sicko, so no, it is not their fault.
Her depiction and discussion is sheer misery, and nothing more.

I know everyone's different but for me at least, dwelling on things never helps. I cannot see that it is helping LON either.

RabbleRouser2k · 24-12-2016 06:01AM

Widdershins wrote: »

I know everyone's different but for me at least, dwelling on things never helps. I cannot see that it is helping LON either.

I agree. Though for her, she stated she was 'told' she was assaulted-and for me, that's a bit odd. My reason for saying that iswhy didn't she 'know' she was assaulted-she was there, she would know.
Not the therapist, who instilled feminism in her (which to me, is like instilling scientology in someone who is suffering from a mental illness). So I've no doubt she's got her own mental health issues, but I'd question the type of therapist she was frequenting.

Louise O Neill on rape culture.

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