Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

Poor_old_gill · 21-12-2016 04:25PM

Cartman78 wrote: »

Robeman;102034218

The "outside influences" would have a meeting with the "egos"

I don't want to sound snarky, but could you please enlighten us as to who or what 'outside influences' you're referring to?

You're seemingly a lot closer to the issue than the rest of us on here so it would be helpful if you stopped talking in riddles and muddying the waters

Huh??

statto25 · 21-12-2016 04:37PM

Cartman78 wrote: »

Robeman;102034218

The "outside influences" would have a meeting with the "egos"

I don't want to sound snarky, but could you please enlighten us as to who or what 'outside influences' you're referring to?

You're seemingly a lot closer to the issue than the rest of us on here so it would be helpful if you stopped talking in riddles and muddying the waters

I agree. Either you took a wild guess or you are close to someone involved with Mayo GAA and know whats going on behind the scenes. People are dismissive of your posts as they come across as "I know something you dont know" type of posts. If someone has confided in you and you are drip feeding info here then you are doing nothing to help any cause whether pro H&C or pro Player. Either spill or just stop the vague posts painting a "picture". I very rarely go on any type of rant on boards in my time on here but I enjoy Mayo football and reading opinions on this forum and its become very tedious this past few days.

charlie1980 · 21-12-2016 04:48PM

I think we can take as gospel now that there is a small cabal of players within this Mayo group that have way too much influence.I am not sure if Rochford is up to lanceing that particular boil,The crazy decision to drop Clarke is evidence enough of that.

Will the O'Sheas,Dillon publically defend themselves? or maybe the players will issue a collective statement on the debacle.Keeping schtum and hoping the issue will go away is not really an option.A bad league campaign ,dumped out of the 2017 championship and the whole sordid episode will be dragged up again and used to slag them off.It's not fair but thats life.

One thing is for sure,this blood letting has gotta have an effect on the players.Their loyality and unity will be tested.

MayoAreMagic · 21-12-2016 04:50PM

charlie1980 wrote: »

I think we can take as gospel now that there is a small cabal of players within this Mayo group that have way too much influence.I am not sure if Rochford is up to lanceing that particular boil,The crazy decision to drop Clarke is evidence enough of that.

No we cant.
Repeat it all you want. It isn't the case.

charlie1980 · 21-12-2016 05:09PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

No we cant.
Repeat it all you want. It isn't the case.

Are you saying Homes and Connelly are liars?

MayoAreMagic · 21-12-2016 05:12PM

charlie1980 wrote: »

Are you saying Homes and Connelly are liars?

No Im saying you have ulterior motives and are kinda full of s*** on this topic.

Dublin fan?

casscass4444 · 21-12-2016 05:20PM

PARlance wrote: »

Happy Christmas Folks.

Was almost tempted to reply to one or two items of horse**** but 'Tis The Season to be jolly and all that!

Rumour has it that you were going to reply,but the O'Sheas got to you first and "EGO" whooped you into not replying.also heard that any of your future replies have to be typed by hennelly on a breaffy broadband connection.

charlie1980 · 21-12-2016 05:25PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

No Im saying you have ulterior motives and are kinda full of s*** on this topic.

Dublin fan?

Why are you so angry?I never debate with anyone on a topic that is emotional.This is my last reply to you.Have a good day sir.

seligehgit · 21-12-2016 06:23PM

Bambi wrote: »

Because its the same old same carry on, ignore the many decisions that went mayos way and then focus on one that would have "changed the game" for Mayo. You'll always get decisions for and against you in competitive finals. Mayo get off the hook with refs just as much as other big teams. But ignore that and think that Mayo would have won only for *insert excuse*. Repeat times ten since 2013 and never actually ask the hard question: why is it this team can't beat Dublin. Looks like some Mayo players prefer to make excuses too. Long may it continue BTW

Who's making excuses?The vast majority of Mayo fans realise that if we were good enough we'd have proverbially brought the bacon home.One gets some decisions and one doesn't get some.It's not going to change the result mulling over the ones that don't go one's way and it isn't going to change the result.So to answer your question we have not been good enough to beat Dublin in those ten contests.

Ditto I haven't heard any Mayo players making any excuses?

It seems like the fact that we haven't won an All Ireland in spite of many attempts is used as a stick to beat us with and with a good dash of gloating and begrudgery thrown in.

Best of luck to Dublin,Kerry or any other county that is fortunate to win an All Ireland,it shouldn't be used as reason to rub the noses of those less fortunate in it.

MayoAreMagic · 21-12-2016 06:51PM

charlie1980 wrote: »

Why are you so angry?I never debate with anyone on a topic that is emotional.This is my last reply to you.Have a good day sir.

I think you are mistaking directness for anger.

charlie1980 · 21-12-2016 06:58PM

Btw I think Breheny played a blinder on this one.He did what all good journalist do,he got the story.It's very telling that Holmes and Connelly did not give their views to the Mayo news or Gulligan's Mayo blog.Maybe they thought they would not get a fair hearing.

Outsiders and all that?

seligehgit · 21-12-2016 07:13PM

charlie1980 wrote: »

Btw I think Breheny played a blinder on this one.He did what all good journalist do,he got the story.It's very telling that Holmes and Connelly did not give their views to the Mayo news or Gulligan's Mayo blog.Maybe they thought they would not get a fair hearing.

Outsiders and all that?

TBH I think the Mayo News gave a relatively balanced reporting of both sides of the argument.

I have little in the way of knowledge re John Mulligan's Mayo blog.

charlie1980 · 21-12-2016 07:46PM

seligehgit wrote: »

TBH I think the Mayo News gave a relatively balanced reporting of both sides of the argument.

I have little in the way of knowledge re John Mulligan's Mayo blog.

Billy Joe Padden?He's not exactly leadership material but I do accept he played the game.If you read the article he's trying to run with the hounds and the hare.The cabal(cancer) within this Mayo group has to be addressed.Billy knows where his bread is buttered and will steer clear of that,thank you very much.

Mayo football is in a state of flux and this issue will not go away.

seligehgit · 21-12-2016 07:50PM

charlie1980 wrote: »

Billy Joe Padden?He's not exactly leadership material but I do accept he played the game.If you read the article he's trying to run with the hounds and the hare.The cabal(cancer) within this Mayo group has to be addressed.Billy knows where his bread is buttered and will steer clear of that,thank you very much.

Mayo football is in a state of flux and this issue will not go away.

I thought his article was diplomatic but ultimately came down on the side of the players.

Edwin McGreal was firmly on the side of the players.

If there are any issues it is for the management to deal with same.

charlie1980 · 21-12-2016 08:55PM

Billy Joe is a nice guy,the best I can say,he means well and I dont think anyone that knows him will disagree with that.

The vote was 27-7 in favour of getting rid of Holmes and Connelly.A cabal of players after the Dublin defeat in 1915(that night) decided it was good idea to shaft them.Honestly?how many of the 27 felt they had to go with it.Billy Joe would know what it is like in a dressing room.When your a young fella,you keep your mouth shut,all you want to do is make the team.

seligehgit · 21-12-2016 09:51PM

charlie1980 wrote: »

Billy Joe is a nice guy,the best I can say,he means well and I dont think anyone that knows him will disagree with that.

The vote was 27-7 in favour of getting rid of Holmes and Connelly.A cabal of players after the Dublin defeat in 1915(that night) decided it was good idea to shaft them.Honestly?how many of the 27 felt they had to go with it.Billy Joe would know what it is like in a dressing room.When your a young fella,you keep your mouth shut,all you want to do is make the team.

I agree with your sentiments re Billy Joe and the group dynamics of a dressing room.

I've no idea when and how the heave evolved but I would agree with you that any notion of player power if it truly did/does exist must be eradicated.

ammc · 21-12-2016 09:55PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The article said that the O'Sheas lobbied for Hennelly to be the goalkeeper back in spring 2015 because they preferred his kickouts.

If I recall the talk some time after the final was that it was Tony McEntee that was the originator of the keeper change idea

Another fall guy? Now who started that whispering campaign about McEntee?

charlie14 · 21-12-2016 10:00PM

ammc wrote: »

Another fall guy? Now who started that whispering campaign about McEntee?

If you are going to point a finger in a whispering campaign, first choice is always the outsider it appears.

Supernintento Chalmers · 21-12-2016 10:31PM

Where does Keith Higgins quitting the team during 2016 fit in with the rest of this debacle?

Stoner · 21-12-2016 10:35PM

MayoAreMagic wrote:

More grandstanding. It was a shoulder after the ball was gone - that isn't a red card in the rulebook.

It was more than that and you know it.
He could easily have walked for it and you'd all be mad with him for doing something that got him sent off in front of the officials.
He was lucky to stay on but that's all we can say about it or its potential outcome, but it was more than a shoulder off the ball, that suggests a late tackle.

seligehgit · 21-12-2016 10:43PM

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

Where does Keith Higgins quitting the team during 2016 fit in with the rest of this debacle?

News to me?

wirelessdude01 · 21-12-2016 11:06PM

Supernintento Chalmers wrote:

Where does Keith Higgins quitting the team during 2016 fit in with the rest of this debacle?

???

mayo.mick · 21-12-2016 11:27PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

???

That "tweet"

TCDStudent1 · 21-12-2016 11:39PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

That "tweet"

Eh, what tweet?

mayo.mick · 21-12-2016 11:43PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Eh, what tweet?

Couple of months back, think that's what their're on about.

seligehgit · 21-12-2016 11:44PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

That "tweet"

Ah that jokey tweet on the bus with the Ballyhaunis lads around Christmas time last year.

seligehgit · 22-12-2016 08:39AM

David Clarke has most certainly not retired.

'I am back in already' - Mayo All Star goalkeeper Clarke on the competition for number one jersey in 2017

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/i-am-back-in-already-mayo-all-star-goalkeeper-clarke-on-the-competition-for-number-one-jersey-in-2017-35313542.html

It is great to see Castlebar Mitchels netminder Ruairi Byrne on the panel too.

Supernintento Chalmers · 22-12-2016 09:05AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Ah that jokey tweet on the bus with the Ballyhaunis lads around Christmas time last year.

No, he quit but was persuaded to come back.
At the time I thought it was maybe over distaste at what happened to H&C, but with all that has come out, who knows?

It's amazing Mayo got as far as they did this year, considering all the drama that was going on.

Fr Tod Umptious · 22-12-2016 09:24AM

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

No, he quit but was persuaded to come back.
At the time I thought it was maybe over distaste at what happened to H&C, but with all that has come out, who knows?

It's amazing Mayo got as far as they did this year, considering all the drama that was going on.

Maybe because there was far less drama going on than people like to make out.

seligehgit · 22-12-2016 09:30AM

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

No, he quit but was persuaded to come back.
At the time I thought it was maybe over distaste at what happened to H&C, but with all that has come out, who knows?

It's amazing Mayo got as far as they did this year, considering all the drama that was going on.

OK I personally most certainly did not hear that.I am not sure what there's to be gained by revealing what may have been a personal decision by Keith Higgins and where there may not have been any ulterior motive.TBH I believe that us keyboard warriors do not need nor deserve to know all the interior dynamics of the Mayo setup.Leaks like the goalkeeper switch on the morning of the All Ireland should not be occurring.

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