Occupy Nama: City property taken over to house homeless

AGC · 20-12-2016 05:56PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Why has colin farrell who lives in America got involved in all the publicity over this. Is he going to let the homeless people move into his many rental properties in docklands and balls bridge and stoney batter. ?

Farrell is a supporter of homless charities, certainly involved in the homeless world cup IIRC so he is obviously going to have a view.

The second part of your comment is just good aul begrudgery

Hellrazer · 20-12-2016 06:03PM

20Cent wrote: »

Hotel rooms don't have cooking facilities, often don't have a fridge.

You got there before me!!

jameorahiely · 20-12-2016 06:05PM

Will "home sweet home" be going after the arsonist who attacked the jcb driver who was working on building the social houses in west dublin today?

I'm bono, I've got glen hanson with me, building socual houses with my jcb ...

18 empty beds in hostels last night

jameorahiely · 20-12-2016 06:06PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Probably not close enough to mammy their favourite shop pub or bookies.

Or go the case of Cork it made someone feel sea sick been given a house beside the sea.

Or not enough room for a trampoline out the back.

I could go on with this list of reasons why people are choosing to remain homeless.

Ain't that the truth.

Berserker · 20-12-2016 06:14PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Why has colin farrell who lives in America got involved in all the publicity over this. Is he going to let the homeless people move into his many rental properties in docklands and balls bridge and stoney batter. ?

This is a wet dream for these z-list celebs, many of whom are very wealthy people as a result of capitalist investments and tax breaks for those in the arts. 'Sowcialism' is the place to be in Ireland these days, so they cannot possibly turn down the chance to "get involved" in a campaign like this. In agreement with others, I wonder how many of these people would happily pay more tax, throw some of their significant earnings, most of which has not been taxed in Ireland, into a pot, to fund services for the homeless or even put forward some of their own investments in the housing market in Ireland, for use by homeless people. Some of these celebrity campaigners own property in very upmarket areas in Dublin.

I feel for the government on this one to a certain extent. Much like the health crisis, this problem is not going to get resolved in the lifetime of this government. It's gonna take 5-10 years to resolve something like this. They have an action plan in place but we will not see the fruits of that for many years to come. If housing units started to pop up all over the place, I would be worried about the quality of those buildings, to be honest.

Finally, when the units they have been occupying turn into crime ridden dumps, will all these celebs be willing to foot the clean up bill or will it fall to the tax payer? Also, will they even condemn the actions and behavior of those who make a mess of these buildings or will that be "society's fault", as per usual.

20-12-2016 06:22PM

To political for me and seem aimed at getting at the government prefer quieter ways of helping, came across a woman who went in to M&S and purchased a whole outfit of new clothes for a homeless man who sleep outside her office.

On the other hand there are homeless people sleeping on the seafront in Bray something that has only occurred in the past few years, Its very hard to get to the truth of the matter undoubtedly the cost of property is a factor but so is addictions a culture of homelessness should not be allowed to develop it a very hard problem to tackle.

donkeykong5 · 20-12-2016 06:26PM

AGC wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Why has colin farrell who lives in America got involved in all the publicity over this. Is he going to let the homeless people move into his many rental properties in docklands and balls bridge and stoney batter. ?

Farrell is a supporter of homless charities, certainly involved in the homeless world cup IIRC so he is obviously going to have a viewd part of your comment is just good aul begrudgery

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

AlekSmart · 20-12-2016 07:16PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I think the issue with your begrudgery,is that it is accurate,and thus fails the reality test...I very much doubt that any of Apollo House's guests will ever recieve a long-term lease on a Docklands Apartment or a Dalkey Duplex from any of this cast ?

mr_edge_to_you · 20-12-2016 07:23PM

I think the plan to take over this vacant office block is a poorly judged one. There is no medium/long term benefit to such a stunt. The office block is not suitable for living in. It is as I understand close to being sold. Thereby, the people pushing this stunt have created a whole new range of problems which won't help anyone - homeless or not.

Anyone who stays in the building is doing so illegally and trespassing. When the time comes to demolish or renovate the premises these people will have to be moved out. Where will they go then?

I strongly expect that this building will become a ghetto for junkies. It is in a part of town that won't impact the vast majority of social justice warriors so it's an easy cause to support. Everyone in this country supports a cause once it's not on their own door step.

Who is going to fund the building in the long term providing heat, water and electricity?

This is going to cause more problems than it will solve.

Yamanoto · 20-12-2016 07:25PM

jameorahiely wrote: »

I'm bono, I've got glen hanson with me...

MMMBop?

AGC · 20-12-2016 07:43PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

How many properties does he own?

AGC · 20-12-2016 08:07PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

How many properties does he own?

Dravokivich · 20-12-2016 08:18PM

AGC wrote: »

How many properties does he own?

What does it matter?

20Cent · 20-12-2016 08:20PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

What does it matter?

He won't be able to sort the problem unless he owns a few thousand properties. Also what happens to the current tenants? Kick them out?

Radiosonde · 20-12-2016 08:22PM

jameorahiely wrote: »

18 empty beds in hostels last night

And 88 people sleeping rough, with another 70 odd sleeping on the floor in Merchant's Quay.

So, there are enough emergency places for all rough sleepers?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1220/840298-emergency-beds-dublin/

corner of hells · 20-12-2016 08:29PM

Radiosonde wrote: »

jameorahiely wrote: »

18 empty beds in hostels last night

And 88 people sleeping rough, with another 70 odd sleeping on the floor in Merchant's Quay.

So, there are enough emergency places for all rough sleepers?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1220/840298-emergency-beds-dublin/

A sizeable group of rough sleepers won't access one night only accommodation for a variety of reasons from severe mental health , being heavily under the influence of drugs or alcohol , fear of being in hostels etc.

Berserker · 20-12-2016 08:32PM

corner of hells wrote: »

A sizeable group of rough sleepers won't access one night only accommodation for a variety of reasons from severe mental health , being heavily under the influence of drugs or alcohol , fear of being in hostels etc.

I agree. Some will not be allowed into the accommodation as a result of past indiscretions whilst they were in the system also. It's fair to say that some of these people aren't exactly angels, contrary to the image that is being portrayed by some.

donkeykong5 · 20-12-2016 08:35PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I think the issue with your begrudgery,is that it is accurate,and thus fails the reality test...I very much doubt that any of Apollo House's guests will ever recieve a long-term lease on a Docklands Apartment or a Dalkey Duplex from any of this cast ?

Your texts are getting silly now. I am not a begrudger. I just think he should keep hus mouth shut. He does not live here or pay tax here. Just collects his monthly rent off 4 docklands apartments. And a house in Stoney batter and one in balls bridge. I am sure there may be others. But that's all I know about.

Dyr · 20-12-2016 08:37PM

Fascinating to see this thread has become a symposium of experts on homelessness

donkeykong5 · 20-12-2016 08:38PM

AGC wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

How many properties does he own?

Six. At least

jameorahiely · 20-12-2016 08:46PM

corner of hells wrote: »

A sizeable group of rough sleepers won't access one night only accommodation for a variety of reasons from severe mental health , being heavily under the influence of drugs or alcohol , fear of being in hostels etc.

So a cohort of people who won't engage with services. How it is proposd to force them to? so farrell and the rest of us can feel good about ourselves.

jameorahiely · 20-12-2016 08:49PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

MMMBop?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rGkseGFQLh4

Dravokivich · 20-12-2016 08:55PM

Radiosonde wrote: »

And 88 people sleeping rough, with another 70 odd sleeping on the floor in Merchant's Quay.

So, there are enough emergency places for all rough sleepers?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1220/840298-emergency-beds-dublin/

Ask the folks blocking Carmen's hall.

donkeykong5 · 20-12-2016 08:57PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

AlekSmart wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He does not live here. Yet owns a good few rental.properties. so if he is so concerned about the homeless crisis. I only suggested he let them move into some of his rentals. No begrudgery at all. Maybe jim glen and the others will do similar. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I think the issue with your begrudgery,is that it is accurate,and thus fails the reality test...I very much doubt that any of Apollo House's guests will ever recieve a long-term lease on a Docklands Apartment or a Dalkey Duplex from any of this cast ?

Your texts are getting silly now. I am not a begrudger. I just think he should keep hus mouth shut. He does not live here or pay tax here. Just collects his monthly rent off 4 docklands apartments. And a house in Stoney batter and one in balls bridge. I am sure there may be others. But that's all I know about.

Apologies ALEKSMART. that post was not for you. But for colins fan AGC. Sorry again.

20Cent · 20-12-2016 08:58PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Ask the folks blocking Carmen's hall.

Carmans hall is two large gym hall type rooms totally unsuitable.

Dravokivich · 20-12-2016 08:59PM

20Cent wrote: »

Carmans hall is two large gym hall type rooms totally unsuitable.

And an office building left to disrepair is?

AGC · 20-12-2016 08:59PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Six. At least

There is civil servants with more FFS

The reason he, Glen Hansard, Bono whoever opens their mouth and are given air time is because they are public figures and people will listen, if you don't so be it but plenty will. As can be seen by the numbers outside apollo house at lunch.

20Cent · 20-12-2016 09:00PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

And an office building left to disrepair is?

No it totally isn't. They're not saying it is.

jameorahiely · 20-12-2016 09:05PM

20Cent wrote: »

Carmans hall is two large gym hall type rooms totally unsuitable.

It might already have a trampolime

20Cent · 20-12-2016 09:08PM

jameorahiely wrote: »

It might already have a trampolime

It has a sports club for underprivileged kids. It is supposed to keep them away from drugs which are a scourge in the area. Putting a homeless shelter in the same building with kids attending training etc isn't a good idea.

Occupy Nama: City property taken over to house homeless

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