Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

seligehgit wrote: »

Article in today's Indo outlining Tom Cunniffe's views on the rights and wrongs of the players coup which ousted Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/we-were-unfair-on-managers-mayo-star-regrets-player-revolt-35274707.html

I know December is very much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to GAA news but this is cat.

Roll on the FBD.

JulietJones wrote: »

Got one of the regular season tickets.. Been trying for a few years so am absolutely thrilled!!

Westernyelp wrote: »

I snagged one too. very small window, just a fluke That I checked emails

Well done, hopefully you can get a good years use out of it like others have over the past few.

Mayo GAA Senior Relegation Playoff:

Ballinrobe 1-11 Ballyhaunis 0-06.

Ballinrobe will play senior football in 2017.

Call me Al wrote: »

So, according to tonight's article in the Indo by Martin Breheny, apparently now is the time for Holmes and Connelly to speak out. They held the whisht last year so as not to interfere with preparations of th team,and they feel that now is the time to issue the letter they sent to the county board to the media.
What with Cunniffe last week, and this, not to mention the stoking here, I'm done with it, and more especially them, at this stage.

Not the letter, but a full-blown interview with Martin Breheny.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/egos-need-to-be-checked-or-mayo-wont-win-allireland-ousted-joint-managers-break-silence-on-player-revolt-in-explosive-interview-35300966.html

Call me Al wrote: »

So, according to tonight's article in the Indo by Martin Breheny, apparently now is the time for Holmes and Connelly to speak out. They held the whisht last year so as not to interfere with preparations of th team,and they feel that now is the time to issue the letter they sent to the county board to the media.
What with Cunniffe last week, and this, not to mention the stoking here, I'm done with it, and more especially them, at this stage.

No problem with any of this coming out, as I said before December is a dead zone for GAA news so MB and the Indo have to earn their keep some way.

But the notion that there are too many egos and outside influences would have a lot more impact had the 2016 Mayo gone out early and not lost the All Ireland to Dublin after a replay.


If this "explosive" stuff does have traction then I hope it makes the current squad even more determined to prove they were right.

On the face of it I thought it was a bad move at the time to ditch H&C, and even more so after the Galway game, but the players more than stood up for themselves after that.

This story would have been good 12 months ago, but the horse has certainly bolted at this stage.

Embarrassing stuff.

You'd think the players had actually won something of relevance in their careers with a letter like that.

Why don't the county board release the mediators report and let people know what went on under Holmes and Connelly's management and how they actually got appointed to the job in the first place?

They were never the right people for the job and this proves it.

Astral92 wrote: »

Absolutely agree. The whole appointment stunk of nepotism.

This is what was embarassing.
I don't blame the players one bit for the coup. I never rated H&C after the semi-final Dublin games and I was glad to see them go.
What I do take issue with in the current set-up is any undue influence over Rochford by certain parties. If there was pressure to change goalies he may have learned his lesson and go with his own gut in future. Expensive lesson to learn.
But what good is there in rehashng all this in the Independent at this stage.
Let them write to the county board but to me the rest just stinks of spite.

PressRun wrote: »

Completely spiteful, imo. The appointment stank from day one and they know it themselves. Plenty of people know at this stage what went on within the camp under their charge, and all I'd say is good riddance.

Proud county men would have left well enough alone .........

Astral92 wrote: »

What I'd love to know is why are they STILL pulling the arse out of this story?

Who are they?

manofwisdom wrote: »

Some had their doubts at the time but todays article especially the official letter confirms without any doubt that player power was used to remove H&C after just one year where a Connacht title was won and only lost to Dublin in the semi final after a replay.

It now seems player power also played a part in the goalkeeper change in this years All Ireland final replay. If so lessons must be learnt and Rochford the manager should be allowed to manage.

If that is the case the players should be giving the road with a kick up the hole.
I did hear a LOT about the younger O'Shea brother not being part of the panel this yr till his brothers had a word

happyoutscan wrote: »

O'Shea, Vaughan and Dillon were 3 of the ring leaders.

According to .........
Can't believe we are talking about this again.
What have Holmes /Connolly got to gain from this ?

I am not too sure why at this stage Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes decided to offer their perspective on the saga as I thought they had said they were never going to do same.

It is true to say that the whole fiasco that gave rise to their appointment stank to high heaven.Indeed the article mentions that neither man was willing to take the role on solo.

TBF to both men they have been wonderful servants of the green and red.The article does give an insight into the oft discussed rumours of certain players attempting to exert an influence on how the team is managed.The Jim Gavin's and Eamonn Fitzmaurice's of this world would not tolerate such antics and rightly so.

From the get go there were rumblings re disharmony in the camp and it seemed to come to a head after the apparent big bust up post our thrashing by Dublin in the league in McHale Park.The saga with regard to Conor O Shea's position on team/panel was an incessant rumour.

The semi final against Dublin was marked by much discussion re the management decision to give up the Cluxton kick out.Arguments can be made re whom made the decision to drop David Clarke.I'm inclined to believe Connelly and Holmes re the background to the change.Yet we were four points up with fifteen minutes to go.I believe the loss could be come to many factors..Seamus O Shea's silly black card,fatigue after two great battles..the crazy depth of the Dublin panel.The line had a role too but as in other big games with victory in our grasp the game was primarily lost on the pitch with a mental brittleness.The players must take a long hard look at themselves.

I found the article informative,I hope Stephen Rochford next year will not tolerate any player power.The omens after the goalkeeper switch in this year's All Ireland final are not good if this was a case of player power?

The saga was a sorry one but nobody comes out of it unblemished.