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Will Prince Charles ever ascend to the throne?

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ah, the "good Nazi" defence: the institution may be iniquitous but he/she personally was not even if they benefit directly from it. Although you appear to be denying the explicit legal reality of anti-Catholicism upon which the British monarchy, and the British state, rests today in 2016. Nothing much anybody can do about that denial in the face of reality, though.

    Oh, so now she's responsible for initiating legislation. Very good then. You mean that legislation in 2013, 60 years after she became Queen of England? 60 years - yes, she sounds positively brimming in love for Catholics. And the same 2013 legislation which reiterated, clearly, that Catholics could not become head of the British state? Curious how you missed that part of your lovebombing of your supposedly non-sectarian British monarchy.

    Act of Settlement 1701

    Succession to the Crown Act 2013

    Look, clearly you can't answer the question put to you twice, have you anything to demonstrate that QEII is herself "profoundly anti-Catholic". The whole "well the Nazis and the Institution and the Nazis and the direct benefit and so on...oh and the Nazis" is a bit laughable. As is your assertion that merely pointing to the huge hole in your argument is "love bombing the Monarchy"


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Look, clearly you can't answer the question put to you twice, have you anything to demonstrate that QEII is herself "profoundly anti-Catholic". The whole "well the Nazis and the Institution and the Nazis and the direct benefit and so on...oh and the Nazis" is a bit laughable. As is your assertion that merely pointing to the huge hole in your argument is "love bombing the Monarchy"

    You're the one having difficulty here with your "the British monarchy isn't sectarian" silliness. It appears you're just finding out the legal reality now and you're trying to make the best of it.


  • #34
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Her majesty addressing the Irish at Dublin Castle in 2011. Mam even incorporates a bit of the Irish language into her speech.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKz-6vn_i00


    Just a lovely elderly woman giving the most significant political speech in Ireland since Pearse at the graveside of Rossa.

    This is why we're great friends now. God Save The Queen.

    We mean it man.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Her majesty addressing the Irish at Dublin Castle in 2011. Mam even incorporates a bit of the Irish language into her speech.

    She missed a great chance to say something profoundly anti-Catholic and anti-Irish.


  • #36
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Her majesty addressing the Irish at Dublin Castle in 2011. Mam even incorporates a bit of the Irish language into her speech.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKz-6vn_i00


    Just a lovely elderly woman giving the most significant political speech in Ireland since Pearse at the graveside of Rossa.

    This is why we're great friends now. God Save The Queen.

    We mean it man.

    Pull yourself together will you.

    The budget announcement each year is a million times more significant than anything she said which had absolutely zero affect on anything in this country.


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  • #37
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You don't seem to know what godwinning a thread means. You can't, for instance, "godwin" a thread that's about the Nazis. But you clearly don't like your sectarian, Irish-hating cult being criticised so I'm glad to oblige.

    Eh....Pardon?

    What Nazi's are you talking about?


  • #38
    Pickpocket
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    I think the Queen Mother lived to 102.

    What do they feed these people in Buck Palace?

    German's have one of the highest live expectancies in Europe.


  • #39
    Pickpocket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    xabi wrote: »
    Why would he be great for us? Or maybe you're British?

    How do you do it, Holmes?


  • #40
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    German's have one of the highest live expectancies in Europe.

    Yes but they're Krauts.

    The Hun, the auld enemy

    Royal relations are greatly exagerrated.


  • #41
    Atoms for Peace
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    She missed a great chance to say something profoundly anti-Catholic and anti-Irish.

    She left that to the experts in FG.:D


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  • #42
    Pickpocket
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Yes but they're Krauts.

    The Hun, the auld enemy

    Royal relations are greatly exagerrated.

    There's a great scene in Netflix's The Crown where George V's mother (QEII's grandmother) is speaking German inside Buckingham Palace.


  • #43
    knucklehead6
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    Pickpocket wrote: »
    There's a great scene in Netflix's The Crown where George V's mother (QEII's grandmother) is speaking German inside Buckingham Palace.

    I've been meaning to watch that. Is it any good?


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
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    Lovely atmosphere in here.


  • #45
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,693 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    Pull yourself together will you.

    The budget announcement each year is a million times more significant than anything she said which had absolutely zero affect on anything in this country.

    In fact it made a good deal of difference to Brits living in Ireland (you know, a bit like a lot of Irish live in the UK). Attitudes changed and there was considerably less casual anti-Brit sentiment being tossed around. Of course there will always be a few here trolling about stuff they have no real experience or knowledge of, but in general her visit made a significant difference.


  • #46
    mahoganygas
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    Deleted User wrote:
    She missed a great chance to say something profoundly anti-Catholic and anti-Irish.

    I'm just surprised she wasn't blood-soaked.

    I think it's difficult for these knuckle draggers to continue with the line 'British people are anti-Catholic, blood thirsty, undemocratic, warmongerers.'

    It's much easier to find an enemy in a head of state. Less likely to offend British people that way.


  • #47
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    andekwarhola wrote: »
    Getting you to run to a thread and self destruct is about as easy as dangling a thread in front of my cat.

    Not as entertaining as some of your posts, especially the one where you declared to us, in all seriousness, that you'd only give your seat up to a pregnant woman if she could prove it.

    Mod: Banned


  • #48
    [Deleted User]
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    mahoganygas wrote: »
    I'm just surprised she wasn't blood-soaked...

    Like Carrie at the end of...well...Carrie...


  • #49
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not as entertaining as some of your posts, especially the one where you declared to us, in all seriousness, that you'd only give your seat up to a pregnant woman if she could prove it.

    You DO know that post searching is the first sign of defeat in a thread, don't you? May as well wave the white flag mate.


  • #50
    [Deleted User]
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    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    You DO know that post searching is the first sign of defeat in a thread, don't you? May as well wave the white flag mate.

    You do know saying 'mate' is the first sign of defeat in life?


  • #51
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You do know saying 'mate' is the first sign of defeat in life?

    Is it mate?


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  • #52
    Pickpocket
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    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    I've been meaning to watch that. Is it any good?

    It's excellent. There's plenty of clips of the Windsor's sitting around feeling sorry for themselves so it might be a bit hard to stomach for some people. However it's an excellent examination of what it meant for the Royals to be dragged reluctantly into the mid 20th century.

    It was written by Peter Morgan who also wrote The Queen, a Henry VII adaptation, The Other Boleyn Girl and he even contributed to the script of King Ralph!

    So he's clearly deeply interested in the Royal family, especially the Windsors. However he said that he's profoundly anti-monarchist, that it goes against every bone in his body. He's just fascinated by what they mean to society and the way in which their lives play out in a public space, that they essentially have no choice in life, despite being so entitled.

    It's very good. There's some great interplay between the Crown and Downing Street. I'd no idea how that relationship worked so it was very informative. There's also some unexpected storylines. I'm on the fourth episode now and it seems to be about the political fallout over London's 'Great Smog' of 1952.

    Definitely worth checking out.


  • #53
    Dirty Dingus McGee
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    looksee wrote: »
    In fact it made a good deal of difference to Brits living in Ireland (you know, a bit like a lot of Irish live in the UK). Attitudes changed and there was considerably less casual anti-Brit sentiment being tossed around. Of course there will always be a few here trolling about stuff they have no real experience or knowledge of, but in general her visit made a significant difference.



    That's just patronizing nonsense.There hasn't been much issue between Irish and British people in a long while.


  • #54
    knucklehead6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    It's excellent. There's plenty of clips of the Windsor's sitting around feeling sorry for themselves so it might be a bit hard to stomach for some people. However it's an excellent examination of what it meant for the Royals to be dragged reluctantly into the mid 20th century.

    It was written by Peter Morgan who also wrote The Queen, a Henry VII adaptation, The Other Boleyn Girl and he even contributed to the script of King Ralph!

    So he's clearly deeply interested in the Royal family, especially the Windsors. However he said that he's profoundly anti-monarchist, that it goes against every bone in his body. He's just fascinated by what they mean to society and the way in which their lives play out in a public space, that they essentially have no choice in life, despite being so entitled.

    It's very good. There's some great interplay between the Crown and Downing Street. I'd no idea how that relationship worked so it was very informative. There's also some unexpected storylines. I'm on the fourth episode now and it seems to be about the political fallout over London's 'Great Smog' of 1952.

    Definitely worth checking out.

    That's today's post Christmas party sitting around doing nothing while nursing a slight hangover viewing sorted so!

    Thank you.


  • #55
    Pickpocket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Anass Rhammer wrote: »
    England are our closest neighbours and biggest trading partners. To suggest we would have no interest in what happens with their monarchy is just ludicrous.

    I also suspect there'd be a lot of interest in this, but only in the same way as William and Kate's wedding, or Diana's death. It's about spectacle and, in this case, the unknown. It's new, different and would pique people's imaginations.

    It's nothing got to do with being trading partners. If that was so important to Irish people's day-to-day then we'd be waiting anxiously at the announcement of every British budget and, in particular, the appointment of every Chancellor.


  • #56
    LordSutch
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Will Prince Charles ever ascend to the throne?

    QEII could still be going for another twenty years, so at this stage I suspect the throne will skip Charles and go straight to William & Kate, hopefully.

    They will make a great King & Queen (IMO).


  • #57
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not as entertaining as some of your posts, especially the one where you declared to us, in all seriousness, that you'd only give your seat up to a pregnant woman if she could prove it.

    Mate.

    Me old mucker.

    Cor blimey.

    Royal Wedding tea towel.


  • #58
    [Deleted User]
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    looksee wrote: »
    In fact it made a good deal of difference to Brits living in Ireland (you know, a bit like a lot of Irish live in the UK). Attitudes changed and there was considerably less casual anti-Brit sentiment being tossed around. Of course there will always be a few here trolling about stuff they have no real experience or knowledge of, but in general her visit made a significant difference.

    The Good Friday agreement played a much greater and significant role in normalizing the relationship between the United kingdom and Ireland than the visit of an aging figurehead.

    The visit of the head of UK was a final step in that normalisation, and not some earth shattering event that brought about peace amongst the two nations.


    Her speech was a non event to me. The president of Ireland probably says more profound things every time he needs to excuse himself to the bathroom.


  • #59
    Pickpocket
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    RobbieTheRobber wrote: »
    The president of Ireland probably says more profound things every time he needs to excuse himself to the bathroom.

    Images of Higgins ascending to the 'throne'...


  • #60
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    QEII could still be going for another twenty years, so at this stage I suspect the throne will skip Charles and go straight to William & Kate, hopefully.

    They will make a great King & Queen (IMO).

    Thinking the very same thing my friend.

    King William and the Commoner Catherine.

    Charles is too old to take up the role.


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  • #61
    Pickpocket
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    QEII could still be going for another twenty years

    I can't see her living until she's 110 (although her mother lived to 101).


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