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Brendan Bendar · 02-12-2016 08:41AM

Paddy Porter wrote: »

Shouldn't really Brendan...the Scobies continually elect Ml.Wallace..plenty of other examples of electoral sillyness.....

Good point Patrick, there's no knowing what some of them are thinking.

Joe_ Public · 02-12-2016 09:29AM

It's like the guy i was talking to a few months back who was sneering at the kerry people who vote the healy raes in while himself being an unapologetic michael lowry supporter. There is a similar anti-establishment principle at play in these instances as in the recent US presidential election. The more they see people sneering at them above in the big city, the more trenchant they become in support of their local heroes. Expect this trend to widen in the coming years as the urban/rural divide and resentment towards the "establishment" intensifies.

neris · 02-12-2016 10:06AM

ugh water... again

Callan57 · 02-12-2016 10:52AM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

It's like the guy i was talking to a few months back who was sneering at the kerry people who vote the healy raes in while himself being an unapologetic michael lowry supporter. There is a similar anti-establishment principle at play in these instances as in the recent US presidential election. The more they see people sneering at them above in the big city, the more trenchant they become in support of their local heroes. Expect this trend to widen in the coming years as the urban/rural divide and resentment towards the "establishment" intensifies.

It's the old "he's a gobsh1te but he's our gobsh1te"

Brendan Bendar · 02-12-2016 11:24AM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

It's like the guy i was talking to a few months back who was sneering at the kerry people who vote the healy raes in while himself being an unapologetic michael lowry supporter. There is a similar anti-establishment principle at play in these instances as in the recent US presidential election. The more they see people sneering at them above in the big city, the more trenchant they become in support of their local heroes. Expect this trend to widen in the coming years as the urban/rural divide and resentment towards the "establishment" intensifies.

Good points,Joe, however I would suggest that the rural/urban divide wouldn't be that big of an issue.

Resentment towards the establishment is a much bigger player and that will definitely increase in the coming years when those who are in the resentment camp see the power of the ballot box and when stoked up by opportunists like Murphy and Co.

neris · 02-12-2016 12:14PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Good points,Joe, however I would suggest that the rural/urban divide wouldn't be that big of an issue.

Resentment towards the establishment is a much bigger player and that will definitely increase in the coming years when those who are in the resentment camp see the power of the ballot box and when stoked up by opportunists like Murphy and Co.

alot of people are going towards the resentment camp and not just the ones whod vote for the likes of murphy or the shinners. alot of the middle classes are getting fed up with the establishment aswell and are waking up to the fact that theyre the ones that are really getting shafted

Paddy Porter · 02-12-2016 04:22PM

neris wrote: »

alot of people are going towards the resentment camp and not just the ones whod vote for the likes of murphy or the shinners. alot of the middle classes are getting fed up with the establishment aswell and are waking up to the fact that theyre the ones that are really getting shafted

Could not disagree with that poster !

Unfortunately voting for the likes of Murphy /Daly or The Shinners will result in the shafting being significantly increased for this cohort.

Which is why a lot of the so called professional classes are upping sticks to Canada /OZ/Dubai etc.

Joe_ Public · 05-12-2016 10:38AM

Of course it's shocking what is happening with the INM pensions, and sickening that the company fat cats are filling their pockets at the expense of former workers, but why is this only a story when it happens to journalists who are able to call on their friends in the media for publicity or, in some cases, use their own columns to bemoan their lot? What about the other companies where this is happening and the other workers who have lost just as much?

buried · 05-12-2016 10:40AM

Journalists cribbing about their pensions going banjaxed! When it was ordinary peoples pensions that went kaput a few years ago not one journalist in this country gave 2 f**ks.

Brendan Bendar · 05-12-2016 06:11PM

buried wrote: »

Journalists cribbing about their pensions going banjaxed! When it was ordinary peoples pensions that went kaput a few years ago not one journalist in this country gave 2 f**ks.

And our good friend Michael D, facilitated that.

Right2Write · 07-12-2016 10:22AM

Bus Eireann - another deluded public utility run by overpaid, inefficient and lazy management. Take the main Dublin-Cork bus - it doesn't stop in Portlaoise, a significant town on the route. How f***king stupid is that??? They haven't the brains of a bird between them.

Just like An Post moaning about falling business - when they are closing the offices where you can actually post and raising prices every few months. Fire them all.

Right2Write · 09-12-2016 10:18AM

The 'Truth Recovery Process' - there's a new one on me! Sinn Féin - masters of obfuscation, spin and waffle.

Odyssey 2005 · 09-12-2016 10:21AM

Right2Write wrote: »

The 'Truth Recovery Process' - there's a new one on me! Sinn Féin - masters of obfuscation, spin and waffle.

This lying IRA sympathiser is boiling my piss. Adams has blood on his hands and all his followers are afraid to say so.

Odyssey 2005 · 09-12-2016 10:26AM

He must have said the "Truth Recovery Process" at least 40 times.

Right2Write · 09-12-2016 10:54AM

I know MLOD is prone to flights of fancy, but did you ever such f***king drivel as this morning?

"The trees cannot move", "the trees were like young schoolgirls with their skirts to the ground" (awaiting the chainsaw), "like ballet dancers" etc etc. "Ooh, Ahh" etc.

I'm all for a bit of descriptive language but there are limits.

Right2Write · 09-12-2016 10:55AM

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

He must have said the "Truth Recovery Process" at least 40 times.

He did indeed - it was like a mantra, must have been 'beaten' into him.

Joe_ Public · 09-12-2016 10:57AM

In fairness, SF/IRA are fully committed to the truth recovery process.*

*As long as it is their truth being told.

For Forks Sake · 09-12-2016 03:24PM

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

He must have said the "Truth Recovery Process" at least 40 times.

He was the exact same on Newstalk yesterday.

fryup · 10-12-2016 12:27AM

Right2Write wrote: »

The 'Truth Recovery Process' - there's a new one on me! Sinn Féin - masters of obfuscation, spin and waffle.

plenty of practice, 40+ years of it

but unfortunately a significant bulk of the population are either taken in by it or ambivalent to it

Right2Write · 12-12-2016 11:27AM

Can't believe what I'm hearing from this Garda rep - their argument that they are poorly paid exploited public servants with low morale has been completely exposed by Horgan's report. Effective annual earnings of €100K when you take the cost of their pensions into account. If this is anyway indicative of the rest of the PS, maybe we do need to tear up the system and start again.

Right2Write · 13-12-2016 11:31AM

Couldn't agree more with that chap when he says that public service wages and pensions need to be looked at very seriously. Horgan has a very good point when he says that striking Gardai should lose some pension entitlements and that's an idea that could well be extended to other essential public services. Enough of being held to ransom.

Frances Fitzgerald may be off in Greece or wherever but I think she's out of touch with public opinion on this one.................

Brendan Bendar · 13-12-2016 11:55AM

Right2Write wrote: »

Couldn't agree more with that chap when he says that public service wages and pensions need to be looked at very seriously. Horgan has a very good point when he says that striking Gardai should lose some pension entitlements and that's an idea that could well be extended to other essential public services. Enough of being held to ransom.

Frances Fitzgerald may be off in Greece or wherever but I think she's out of touch with public opinion on this one.................

On listening to that lad, looks we were royally conned by the Force.

I would agree that all these legacy pension arrangements be looked at from an affordability viewpoint.

Lot of this stuff is not relevant in 2016, like the travel days which were only gotten rid of not long ago.

Time to wake up folks.

neris · 13-12-2016 12:29PM

only caught the 1st 5 minutes of sean today but i thought the letter in the times he read out was quite good about the gardai retiring at 50 living to mid 80s and living of a garda pension for longer then they actually worked.

Brendan Bendar · 13-12-2016 06:18PM

neris wrote: »

only caught the 1st 5 minutes of sean today but i thought the letter in the times he read out was quite good about the gardai retiring at 50 living to mid 80s and living of a garda pension for longer then they actually worked.

That's providing as quite a lot of them do, get other jobs after 'retiring' on index linked pensions.

Whole area of PS pensions needs URGENT re-organisation before they break the country.

djemba djemba · 14-12-2016 12:19PM

I am currently looking for something to listen to during the day. Giving SOR a try at the moment. Can anyone tell me what is the benefit of the Family courts report. Where is the public interest broadcasting in that.

sligojoek · 14-12-2016 12:33PM

djemba djemba wrote: »

I am currently looking for something to listen to during the day. Giving SOR a try at the moment. Can anyone tell me what is the benefit of the Family courts report. Where is the public interest broadcasting in that.

It's almost as important as Paddy O Gorman trawling the graveyards and courthouses of the country looking for misery.

Brendan Bendar · 14-12-2016 02:28PM

sligojoek wrote: »

It's almost as important as Paddy O Gorman trawling the graveyards and courthouses of the country looking for misery.

Id call it reality myself, shining a little torch under the slates to show us what is really going on, and not the spin of the current bunch of lefties in the Dail like to promulgate.

Can be very informative.

Paddy Porter · 14-12-2016 09:29PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

On listening to that lad, looks we were royally conned by the Force.

I would agree that all these legacy pension arrangements be looked at from an affordability viewpoint.

Lot of this stuff is not relevant in 2016, like the travel days which were only gotten rid of not long ago.

Time to wake up folks.

Clean head shot there Brendan.....lavish pensions by any standard...still an unsustainable amount of trained gardai licking pencils behind desks ,,,Time to winkle these drones out now that their union has bullied the taxpayer into an even bigger pay out.
Earn you money lads ....

Right2Write · 19-12-2016 10:41AM

Sad story from the courts re house repossession - but why doesn't that woman seek help from her family if she's under that much stress? Seems crazy to be as worried as that and not let on to your siblings/ parents that you're in trouble.

Lady Chatterton · 19-12-2016 11:19AM

Right2Write wrote: »

Sad story from the courts re house repossession - but why doesn't that woman seek help from her family if she's under that much stress? Seems crazy to be as worried as that and not let on to your siblings/ parents that you're in trouble.

Very sad story, she seemed to be doing her best to meet her commitments.

As for asking for help..... you're presuming that she has a supportive family. They mightn't want to know or they may be struggling to make ends meet themselves.

The other thing is pride prevents some people from approaching family and friends when they're in financial difficulties.

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