Is standing up for children on public transport now the norm?

MeatTwoVeg · 07-12-2016 03:21PM

These threads always seem to induce competitive bouts of white-knighting and thanks-whoring.

weldoninhio · 07-12-2016 03:36PM

Mortpourvelo wrote: »

Here's a mad wacky idea - let's respect the elderly and give them a fking seat!!!!!!

Here's a wacky idea, equality for all. I wouldn't expect an elderly person to get up for me. I wouldn't expect a child to get up for me. Neither should expect me to get up for them and we all know where we stand, pun unintended.

RollieFingers · 07-12-2016 04:15PM

Some bad men on this thread, seriously saying they'd leave an oap on a stick standing just so they can have a seat! No manners at all.

Glenster · 07-12-2016 04:42PM

Is the world not complicated enough?

Is my day not long enough?

So now I have to have that google age recognition software on me at all times and be constantly scanning the crowd of people on the bus for some old dear who potters onto a bus at rush hour.

Don't I pay her pension already, don't I subsidise her travel already, don't I wait weeks for a check up because shes getting 12 new hips a year on her medical card already?

I don't ask for anything from anybody.

Kids, women, old people all coming at me with their hand out, no wonder the suicide rate is highest among white males aged 25-55.

Mortpourvelo · 07-12-2016 05:01PM

Glenster wrote: »

Is the world not complicated enough?

Is my day not long enough?

So now I have to have that google age recognition software on me at all times and be constantly scanning the crowd of people on the bus for some old dear who potters onto a bus at rush hour.

Don't I pay her pension already, don't I subsidise her travel already, don't I wait weeks for a check up because shes getting 12 new hips a year on her medical card already?

I don't ask for anything from anybody.

Kids, women, old people all coming at me with their hand out, no wonder the suicide rate is highest among white males aged 25-55.

Wtf ???

Help!!!! · 07-12-2016 05:05PM

Kenny Putrid Tux wrote: »

My sister was sitting on a crowded bus recently going to work when a woman who looked in her thirties got on with a child aged about 10. My sister didn't take much notice, but a few minutes later the mother said to the child 'well obviously no one's going to give you a seat so make sure you hold on very tightly'.

I was telling a friend and she said she saw a mother ask a man if her child (who looked about 8) could have his seat, as it was dangerous for children to be trying to keep their balance on a moving bus.

I could understand if she was talking about a 2 or 3 year old. But is it really now the norm for adults to stand up for children on public transport?

Not so much for the child but I would probably get up for the mother, the same as I would get up for an elderly person.

Help!!!! · 07-12-2016 05:08PM

Glenster wrote: »

Is the world not complicated enough?

Is my day not long enough?

So now I have to have that google age recognition software on me at all times and be constantly scanning the crowd of people on the bus for some old dear who potters onto a bus at rush hour.

Don't I pay her pension already, don't I subsidise her travel already, don't I wait weeks for a check up because shes getting 12 new hips a year on her medical card already?

I don't ask for anything from anybody.

Kids, women, old people all coming at me with their hand out, no wonder the suicide rate is highest among white males aged 25-55.

I agree with the rush hour bit, same as someone getting on with a pram during rush hour when you can tell they haven't worked so had all day to get wherever their going. But the rest of it your on your own

MilesMorales1 · 07-12-2016 05:29PM

Sure I'll respect the elderly, I'll give up my seat for them no bother. Not some ****ty kid though.

diomed · 07-12-2016 05:51PM

There must be a Ph D in this for someone. What is the equilibrium point in bus seat offering between small child; elderly person; pregnant woman; obvious injury?

They gave a Noble Prize in 2012 for "the theory of stable allocations and the practice of market design". (nothing to do with horses

) "students matched with schools, donors of human organs with patients in need of a transplant"

_Jamie_ · 07-12-2016 06:07PM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

These threads always seem to induce competitive bouts of white-knighting and thanks-whoring.

I can't over how pathetic the accusation of white-knighting is. I think I'll get used to it but no, I still cringe every single time.

_Jamie_ · 07-12-2016 06:10PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Standing tickets could be used only via leap, with a tag on tag off system. That way the driver can see how many standing people are on the bus. He would also know how many seats are available and a seat could be assigned as you get on with your seated ticket. I'm sure this would be easily implemented these days. Seats couldnt be duplicated.

If someone has free travel they can upgrade to a seat for a nominal fee, say €1 wherever they are going. It's only a suggestion, I never said they had to implement it.

Onto your second point, if you get on after me and have to stand that's bad luck on your part. I wouldn't be getting up to let you sit down. I've made that perfectly clear throughout the thread. And if asked by some busybody to give up my seat I'd politely decline.

Ha, OK, I officially don't believe you. You had me going for a while but with that last paragraph... naaaaw.

07-12-2016 07:49PM

Glenster wrote: »

Kids, women, old people all coming at me with their hand out, no wonder the suicide rate is highest among white males aged 25-55.

That's exactly why I killed myself last year.

beks101 · 07-12-2016 08:37PM

I live in London and people not giving up or giving up their seats for kids is a non-existent problem on public transport over here. Most people don't do it for anyone these days, old, infirm, pregnant or otherwise unstable, despite protests to the contrary.

Not only that, but people assume they're entitled to a seat for their bags/coats/newspapers too, and will sit on the outside seat with all their sh1t thrown over the inside one, stick the earphones in and eyes out the window apparently "oblivious" to anyone who gets on and might feel precious enough to want to sit down. I literally see this every day. I'll intentionally target that arsehole and tell them to move their bag every time.

Public transport travellers are a grim indictment of humanity on any given day.

Glenster · 07-12-2016 10:14PM

beks101 wrote: »

I live in London and people not giving up or giving up their seats for kids is a non-existent problem on public transport over here. Most people don't do it for anyone these days, old, infirm, pregnant or otherwise unstable, despite protests to the contrary.

youve just described a utopia where everyone is equal

Mortpourvelo · 08-12-2016 10:52AM

Glenster wrote: »

youve just described a utopia where everyone is equal

No, he's described a ****hole where no one has any concern for those who may be struggling; a place where no one gives a s**t about anyone else but themselves and where there is zero common decency.

There you go Dublin City, there's your tourist slogan.

weldoninhio · 08-12-2016 02:49PM

Mortpourvelo wrote: »

No, he's described a ****hole where no one has any concern for those who may be struggling; a place where no one gives a s**t about anyone else but themselves and where there is zero common decency.

There you go Dublin City, there's your tourist slogan.

So you don't believe that everyone is equal and deserves to be treated as such?? That's a very backwards view.

VinLieger · 13-12-2016 06:55PM

I honestly thought this was a joke but im on the luas right now and have some wan with her two spawn, id guess aged 2 and 5, 2 year old is sat beside me but shes staring me out of it to try and get my seat for the 5 year old or possibly even herself. Not gonna happen

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 23-01-2017 06:03PM

I was on a luas yesterday and a young mother with a child aged about 7 stood up and got him to stand up as well so that my 80 year old mother and another elderly lady could have their seats.

On the way home an elderly man on a walking stick got on and a teenage boy immediately jumped up so he could have his seat.

I was flabbergasted, and I think my faith in human nature is being restored!

Hector Bellend · 23-01-2017 06:04PM

Little Jimmy or Jimoleena will get a crack on the arse sooner than they'll get my seat on the bus.

Tigger · 23-01-2017 06:07PM

When we were kids we'd always stand up for pregnant women and old people and anyone with a walking aid
When we were teenagers we added women who we thought were fat enough taut we could pretend we thought they were pregnant

Is standing up for children on public transport now the norm?

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