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El Presidente Trump

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  • #5252
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Then tell me now since up to this point you only attack Trump on his Muslim remarks. Do you believe Muslim refugees should be allowed into Europe and America no matter what.

    Waiting for your answer.:) You've been putting off long enough your attitudes about Muslim migration to Europe and America.

    No Brian, I don't, which should be obvious to you.

    Now go and find the quotes where I said what you're alleging I did.


  • #5253
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Billy86 wrote: »
    No Brian, I don't, which should be obvious to you.

    Now go and find the quotes where I said what you're alleging I did.

    Just to be clear here. I asked about Muslim migration to America & Europe. You don't agree with letting Muslim refugees into America and Europe.


  • #5254
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Just to be clear here. I asked about Muslim migration to America & Europe. You don't agree with letting Muslim refugees into America and Europe.

    No, I didn't agree with "Do you believe Muslim refugees should be allowed into Europe and America no matter what."

    Are you going to back up what you said about my stances or not? Did you make it up?


  • #5255
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Billy86 wrote: »
    No, I didn't agree with "Do you believe Muslim refugees should be allowed into Europe and America no matter what."

    Are you going to back up what you said about my stances or not? Did you make it up?

    If you don't agree with Muslim refuges being allowed into Europe and America no matter what why are you complaining about Trump's remarks that we restrict the flow of Muslim migrants To Europe and America.

    Everyone who disagrees with this policy is being called an Islamophobe. Across Europe if you take this position it is made clear you have more in common with the likes of Le Pen and Geert Wilders. The question I posed to you is what a lot of Europeans feel on the matter. Does not make us all bigots.


  • #5256
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    If you don't agree with Muslim refuges being allowed into Europe and America no matter what why are you complaining about Trump's remarks that we restrict the flow of Muslim migrants To Europe and America.

    Everyone who disagrees with this policy is being called an Islamophobe. Across Europe if you take this position it is made clear you have more in common with the likes of Le Pen and Geert Wilders. The question I posed to you is what a lot of Europeans feel on the matter. Does not make them all bigots.

    No I'm not and you know that. Trump was calling for a ban on all Muslims, and you were so betwixt about how to jump through loopholes over it you repeatedly made a prat of yourself. You're as transparent as a wet t-shirt.

    So where did I say the below Brian, or were you making it up?
    "We all know now that you believe that Muslims which is a universal term should be allowed entry in America and Europe no matter what the reason"


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  • #5257
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Billy86 wrote: »
    No I'm not and you know that. Trump was calling for a ban on all Muslims, and you were so betwixt about how to jump through loopholes over it you repeatedly made a prat of yourself. You're as transparent as a wet t-shirt.

    So where did I say the below Brian, or were you making it up?
    "We all know now that you believe that Muslims which is a universal term should be allowed entry in America and Europe no matter what the reason"

    Trump also said he wanted to restrict Muslim migrants to America until he knew what was going on in the Muslim world. Sounds like a guy that is aware of the deep concerns people have of a large flow of migrants from a troubled region of the world. He also spoke a lot on the campaign trail of integrating the Muslims already in America into American society. Over here in Europe we don't have that luxury. More are still coming.

    Your position so far has been to attack and lampoon Trump however under Clinton her proposals were to encourage more migrants to arrive into America. Muslim migrants and you don't make any attacks on Hillary for this position. According to you Trump is dangerous for not letting more Muslims into America while Hillary is better for allowing more Muslims into America.


  • #5258
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Trump also said he wanted to restrict Muslim migrants to America until he knew what was going on in the Muslim world. Sounds like a guy that is aware of the deep concerns people have of a large flow of migrants from a troubled region of the world. He also spoke a lot on the campaign trail of integrating the Muslims already in America into American society. Over here in Europe we don't have that luxury. More are still coming.

    Your position so far has been to attack and lampoon Trump however under Clinton her proposals were to encourage more migrants to arrive into America. Muslim migrants and you don't make any attacks on Hillary for this position. According to you Trump is dangerous for not letting more Muslims into America while Hillary is better for allowing more Muslims into America.
    Ignoring your mindless blabber that has been addressed already, you are indeed saying you have nothing to back up what you said and just made it up out of thin air. What a surprise.

    No thoughts on the Goldman Sachs Presidency to add, I take it. :)


  • #5259
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Ignoring your mindless blabber that has been addressed already, you are indeed saying you have nothing to back up what you said and just made it up out of thin air. What a surprise.

    No thoughts on the Goldman Sachs Presidency to add, I take it. :)

    Okay yeah whatever leave it there. We'll agree to disagree on this one.


  • #5260
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Okay yeah whatever leave it there. We'll agree to disagree on this one.
    We'll agree you knowingly made up comments about me with absolutely nothing to back them up. Because that's what you did. All the best now.


  • #5261
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Billy86 wrote: »
    We'll agree you knowingly made up comments about me with absolutely nothing to back them up. Because that's what you did. All the best now.

    No need to respond to my last post. Leave it there.


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  • #5262
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I get you're not comfortable with you making stuff up being pointed out to you, so I'll leave it at that. In future, just don't make sh*t up. It's that simple Brian, now back on ignore you go. :)


  • #5263
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I get you're not comfortable with you making stuff up being pointed out to you, so I'll leave it at that. In future, just don't make sh*t up. It's that simple Brian, now back on ignore you go. :)

    Heh, you're lucky I'm not bored enough to trawl through 13 thousand posts and spend the next two years bickering with you over the example I find ;)

    At any rate, if you are actually against it, (which I just find myself doubting for some reason...) I'd have to agree. People touting for progress, lgbt rights and everything else, then calling anyone against the import of a culture in which women are second class citizens along with anyone not pointing their arse away from mecca "bigoted" will never not be funny to me.

    I'd actually go so far as to say all these people are getting tired of how un-oppressed they are getting in this modern age meaning that soon they might have to - shock horror - STFU and get on with life like everyone else.
    To that end, if you can't find oppression to fight, you make oppression to fight.
    Of course that's crazy talk, because there's no way anyone would want a society in which showing your face gets you a thorough beating, just, so they can screech oppression and mean it. Right?


  • #5264
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Trump also said he wanted to restrict Muslim migrants to America until he knew what was going on in the Muslim world. Sounds like a guy that is aware of the deep concerns people have of a large flow of migrants from a troubled region of the world. He also spoke a lot on the campaign trail of integrating the Muslims already in America into American society. Over here in Europe we don't have that luxury. More are still coming.

    Your position so far has been to attack and lampoon Trump however under Clinton her proposals were to encourage more migrants to arrive into America. Muslim migrants and you don't make any attacks on Hillary for this position. According to you Trump is dangerous for not letting more Muslims into America while Hillary is better for allowing more Muslims into America.

    There is a difference between letting all Muslims in, letting none in and letting some in. You appear to have forgotten about that third one.


  • #5265
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Ignoring your mindless blabber that has been addressed already, you are indeed saying you have nothing to back up what you said and just made it up out of thin air. What a surprise.

    No thoughts on the Goldman Sachs Presidency to add, I take it. :)

    What's your opinion on Muslim immigration?


  • #5266
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Also on a separate point Trump attacks first ammendment rights. I mean I don't expect him to follow through but he has yet to act presidential in the slightest. Of course who knows what he is going to do in office. From the shock his team got at the staffing requirements he certainly was not planning on being in this position.

    It also once again raises the question whether the man supposedly in charge of the country cam be trusted to lead a twitter account. It has been taken off him before.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/29/politics/donald-trump-flag-burning-penalty-proposal/

    Trump baited his opponents onto burning the American flag. Protesters stood outside Trump tower and burned the flag and waved a Mexican flag. The imagery is very powerful and people are subconsciously choosing a side. More and more choosing to side against flag burners.


  • #5267
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I think it´s more the right wing equivalent of what "social justice warriors" are to the left.

    I.e. a shower of wankers that thrive on narrow-mindedness and one-dimensional, my way or no way politics.

    The alt right is a loose alliance of nationalists white nationalists and other related ideologies. They seem to be acutely aware that they're the mirror image of the SJW crowd. They openly promote white identity politics as a necessary response to other varieties of identity politics which most of them seem to view as anti-white.

    I predict they will disappear into thin air the moment black, gender, muslim and Latino identity politics ends. But I wouldn't hold out hope. Maybe the democrats will learn from their loss and stop dividing by race and gender but I doubt it. Identity politics is here to stay.


  • #5268
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    oik wrote: »
    Christy42 wrote: »
    Also on a separate point Trump attacks first ammendment rights. I mean I don't expect him to follow through but he has yet to act presidential in the slightest. Of course who knows what he is going to do in office. From the shock his team got at the staffing requirements he certainly was not planning on being in this position.

    It also once again raises the question whether the man supposedly in charge of the country cam be trusted to lead a twitter account. It has been taken off him before.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/29/politics/donald-trump-flag-burning-penalty-proposal/

    Trump baited his opponents onto burning the American flag. Protesters stood outside Trump tower and burned the flag and waved a Mexican flag. The imagery is very powerful and people are subconsciously choosing a side. More and more choosing to side against flag burners.

    Those flag burners should be locked up for a very long time.


  • #5269
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    oik wrote: »
    Billy86 wrote: »
    Ignoring your mindless blabber that has been addressed already, you are indeed saying you have nothing to back up what you said and just made it up out of thin air. What a surprise.

    No thoughts on the Goldman Sachs Presidency to add, I take it. :)

    What's your opinion on Muslim immigration?

    I think it should be very limited. They don't have much interest in other countries values or traditions, it's all about themselves. And that is a very dangerous thing.


  • #5270
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Those flag burners should be locked up for a very long time.

    Why? You don'the have to like them but that isn't enough to lock them up. What crime do you want do you want to charge them with? How far would you like the restrictions people'say first amendment rights?

    Also no commenting regards to Trump's new pro wall Street position?


  • #5271
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ebbsy wrote: »
    I think it should be very limited. They don't have much interest in other countries values or traditions, it's all about themselves. And that is a very dangerous thing.

    And how would you prove that somebody is Muslim, exactly?


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  • #5272
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    oik wrote: »
    What's your opinion on Muslim immigration?

    Oik, you're back! You vanished off my radar after your delicate rose petal house fit at me the other day. Look, not to "trigger" you again but have you got around to telling me how many of the 150+ republican primary polls taken after Nov 11th Trump lost yet?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2016_presidential_primaries


  • #5273
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Renegade Mechanic wrote: »
    Heh, you're lucky I'm not bored enough to trawl through 13 thousand posts and spend the next two years bickering with you over the example I find ;)

    At any rate, if you are actually against it, (which I just find myself doubting for some reason...) I'd have to agree. People touting for progress, lgbt rights and everything else, then calling anyone against the import of a culture in which women are second class citizens along with anyone not pointing their arse away from mecca "bigoted" will never not be funny to me.

    I'd actually go so far as to say all these people are getting tired of how un-oppressed they are getting in this modern age meaning that soon they might have to - shock horror - STFU and get on with life like everyone else.
    To that end, if you can't find oppression to fight, you make oppression to fight.
    Of course that's crazy talk, because there's no way anyone would want a society in which showing your face gets you a thorough beating, just, so they can screech oppression and mean it. Right?

    I didn't need to search any posts, I'm the one had the initial argument with him on the matter.

    You never did let us know if you actually live on the US by the way? :)


  • #5274
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Billy86 wrote: »
    ebbsy wrote: »
    I think it should be very limited. They don't have much interest in other countries values or traditions, it's all about themselves. And that is a very dangerous thing.

    And how would you prove that somebody is Muslim, exactly?

    They would be ones blowing up crowds of people I'd guess. Not that hard to spot.


  • #5275
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ebbsy wrote: »
    They would be ones blowing up crowds of people I'd guess. Not that hard to spot.

    So much like any insight on any kind of expectations on policy or expectations from Trumps presidency... You've got nothing to contribute. Congrats, I'd give you a biscuit if I could.


  • #5276
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    Trevor Noah suggested that method of dealing with Trump. "Oh, completely unsubstantiated comment? Please do enlarge on it. With back up. Then we'll talk about it, k?"

    I didn't think it would work, but judging by the past two pages...actually, it still won't work. Two pages of being very obviously called out and no-one could back it up, just went for cheap "you're lucky I can't be arsed finding proof against you" which is adorably Trumpian, and claim a win.

    Well, adorably. Eye-rollingly, perhaps.


  • #5277
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I didn't need to search any posts, I'm the one had the initial argument with him on the matter.

    You never did let us know if you actually live on the US by the way? :)

    Kentucky burger flipper, born 'n bred :rolleyes:


  • #5278
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Renegade Mechanic wrote: »
    Kentucky burger flipper, born 'n bred :rolleyes:
    You're worried about Russia bombing "us" because you're convinced a war with them & the US was on the way, so surely you live in the US no?


  • #5279
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Those flag burners should be locked up for a very long time.

    Those flag burners are clearly protected under the First Amendment.

    Just like Trump and his bull**** is.

    I mean, I understand that you clearly only want some speech protected and other not so much but unfortunately that's not how it works.
    ebbsy wrote: »
    They would be ones blowing up crowds of people I'd guess. Not that hard to spot.

    Are we saying it's only Muslims who blow up people ?
    You're making Anders Breivik very sad.


  • #5280
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Those flag burners are clearly protected under the First Amendment.

    Just like Trump and his bull**** is.

    I mean, I understand that you clearly only want some speech protected and other not so much but unfortunately that's not how it works.



    Are we saying it's only Muslims who blow up people ?
    You're making Anders Breivik very sad.
    I wouldn't bother, he's clearly trying to divert attention away from talking about Trump, because truth is after repeatedly asking it's becoming clearer and clearer he doesn't actually know much about Trump despite his constant cheerleading.

    It is funny seeing the right hate the US constitution so much and giving out about free speech, though hardly surprising it ties in nicely with their support of 'safe places'. :)


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  • #5281
    ECO_Mental
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Just a couple of points/ observations for the last few weeks as I dont think at this Stage The Fraud Trump deserves too much of mu time.
    • The Fraud Trump is effectively in hiding in the ivory tower in Manhattan he is in shock that he actually won eg, wont answer questions to the media because he has nothing to say
    • So much for draining the swamp, the new admin should be called "Government Sachs" from now on
    • Has Mitt Romney no shame.....thats all
    • So much for this blind trust and conflict of interest, letting his kids run the empire ; roll eyes...
    • Will he ever answer a question from the media on any thing, I think he is too afraid that he actually has no idea what to do next and this will come accross.
    • Following on from that he has shown no interest in learning what to do,eg not reading the security briefings...
    • Where are his tax returns
    • He needs to move the white house he is the president now (angry eyes) the secret service have to rent a floor off him in trump tower to accom him and obviously he has to make money!
    • Has Mitt Romeny no shame
    • Its going to be a roller coaster for the next four years if he gets that long
    • And finnially: has Mitt Romeny no shame

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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