Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Both Tony and Khabib arguably have legitimate claims.

Both Tony and Khabib appear to be fighting each other to cement their shot.

Crisis averted.

Mellor wrote: »

I was joking.
But if the issue is his inactivity (due to injury), then say its inactivity.

Citing his wins or streak undermines your point tbh.


Khabib is on a 24 fight streak. With 8 fights in the UFC.
Obvious 9>8, but the difference is minor. They are both incredible streaks. Suggesting this is what separates the is bizarre.

If Ferguson was on a 7 fight win streak I would still be of the same opinion. You're an intelligent guy, I'm pretty sure you know people are talking about Khabib's inactivity in this same period of time that Ferguson has his streak put together.

eddie73 wrote: »

Tony Fergeson and himself will most likely go head to head, but who will conor fight to defend his lightweight belt in the meantime, what about the featherweight belt and what happens if he defends neither?

Khabib and Tony will only fight each other if Conor is taking the next 6 months off, which looks likely. Conor won't be defending the lightweight belt against anyone other than those two or maybe Nate if the trilogy fight happens sooner rather than later (it shouldn't IMO).

Still remains to be seen what happens with the FW belt. I reckon he'll vacate it and Aldo becomes champ.

Was woodley not put for 1.5 years then rocked back into a title shot ?

dashoonage wrote: »

Was woodley not put for 1.5 years then rocked back into a title shot ?

which was ridiculous, never should have gotten near it, but to be fair to him, he was promised it if he beat hendricks and he sat out and made noise till he got it.

Mellor wrote: »

I was joking.
But if the issue is his inactivity (due to injury), then say its inactivity.

Citing his wins or streak undermines your point tbh.


Khabib is on a 24 fight streak. With 8 fights in the UFC.
Obvious 9>8, but the difference is minor. They are both incredible streaks. Suggesting this is what separates the is bizarre.

How does it undermine my point? Its a combination of both.

Looks like they're going to fight anyways so we'll have a clear #1 Contender after it.

Gamebred wrote: »

Does the UFC as a business want Khabib as champion? A ''grappler'' who has a poor injury record also a Muslim in todays Murica(it shouldnt matter but it needs to be discussed), it doesnt sell surely and as a business I can see them picking Ferguson getting the nod ahead if Conor is to defend the 155 soon, the brass cant control the results but they can sure as hell make the fight with the more upside for either winner.

I doubt the muslim thing holds any weight, but he has said that he won't fight during ramadam.

But it shouldn't matter about who they 'want', the best man should fight for the title.

TimRiggins wrote: »

How does it undermine my point? Its a combination of both.

Because their streaks, even when you ignore Khabib pre-UFC fights are largely the same. And yes Tony has one more, obviously. But making out that 8 UFC wins isn't enough to get a title shot, and he needs one more is bizarre.
I seem to remember it was Ferguson who pulled out of their fight. should Khabib have done a Woodley then.

The inactivity is a valid point, but call it inactivity, that's all I'm saying. The two are mutually exclusive.

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

To be fair the streak and his activity (or lack of) are linked. If I was on a 9 fight win streak dating back to 1998 where I've fought bi-yearly since, I wouldn't be in a great shout for a shot ahead of Ferguson. I wouldn't argue with Khabib getting a shot but you can't ignore his inactive streak while Ferg was super active.

Again, I'm not saying inactivity isn't a factor
I'm saying call it that. They are really separate factors.


To use your example, say you had a 12 fight streak going back to 1998. Had a huge layoff, and were now back at LW and 2-0 in the last year.

Saying Ferguson deserves the shot ahead of you because his streak is better makes no sense.
Saying he deserves it because he's been more active recently makes lots of sense.




Also, I must remember that UFC streak is king when people start suggesting Aldo's 1 fight streak puts him ahead of Max's 9 fights. :rolleyes:

I think you're being a bit obtuse! We're splitting hairs really, we're both painting the same **** a different way. All I said was that a streak is linked to your activity. A 4 win streak in a year is a better streak than a 4 fight streak over 4 years. So yes, activity matters. And it's linked to his win streak.

TimRiggins wrote: »

Yes, because the one more win he would get would be over Tony who is the other contender. I don't know how you can't see that the streak Tony is on in the last 2 years is why people think he deserves it over Khabib who has been largely inactive in that time, while on a similar streak. The two can be linked, they are all factors here. Khabib's wins from 2012 and 2013 aren't the same as Tony's wins from last year and this year.

And Aldo is ahead of Holloway because he has the Interim title.

I think Mellor must have been in a bad mood yesterday or is intentionally being obtuse!

StringerBell wrote: »

Fairly normal for fighters with records like that to have fought poor opposition, in fact, pretty much every fighter, boxing and mma who is on the way up fight journeymen and bums to boost the confidence, give them experience while ensuring they continue on the upward trajectory.

The fact is he is unbeaten in MMA, 8 from 8 in the UFC, he has dominated anyone put in front of him, which is all you can do and he is good value for a title shot. Did you complain when McGregor got the title shot off the back of luminaries such as Siver?

Ferguson is on a great run, also fully deserving of a shot, the best thing to do in the 55 division is have them fight, winner obviously gets the next shot. With McGregor taking the time off it seems the only reasonable thing to do, if he is wanting to keep that 45 belt that has to be the next fight anyway so it is going to be a long time before he is defending the 55 belt.

I thought he was very fortunate to get the decision in his fight against Tibau. That should read as an L for Khabib imho.

ASOT wrote: »

So fortunate that he managed to win every round on every judges scorecard.

Yep, you said it bro.

That was a weird one from the judges. Every media outlet scored the fight the other way. He didn't land a single take down.

Disagree lads; it was very close but he landed the better shots and was more agressive. You can see how he stole the rounds pinning him against the cage. Very boring fight overall anyway.

JJayoo wrote: »

Khabib is incredibly popular in Russia having a buildup between McG and Khabib would create a huge buzz

Is he that popular though? I've heard McGregor is actually more well known in mainland Russia and Fedor still reigns supreme.

He'd be very popular in the Caucsus region but that's quite a small market in comparison and historically the regions don't particularly like each other.

Than again it'll probably be like Olympics, once a Dagestani wrestlers bring home a gold they are embraced as full Russians, regional differences forgotten.