BMW 330e

carsfan2 · 19-11-2016 03:16PM

I think the grille was about 100 euro alright but no harm in trying getting them to throw it into the deal if possible. Love the black grille myself on an m sport.

Moe1013 · 20-11-2016 06:19PM

sligo_dave wrote: »

I didn't clarify, I think he mentioned around €100 odd but could have been more. Have you it long ordered? The countdown to January is becoming harder ever week. Getting updates now that it's due to be built this Monday and expected in dealers 2 weeks later (hopefully anyway)

Yeah Santy coming late for us this year! Have ordered it just over a month now. Was told mid to late Jan delivery as the factory is shutting production for 3 weeks round about now. Haven't been in contact with them since though, when I last left it they were trying to secure an early slot.

sligo_dave · 20-11-2016 07:23PM

Moe1013 wrote: »

Yeah Santy coming late for us this year! Have ordered it just over a month now. Was told mid to late Jan delivery as the factory is shutting production for 3 weeks round about now. Haven't been in contact with them since though, when I last left it they were trying to secure an early slot.

I hope they have mine shipped before they close up!! I've ordered since September 19th and have since sold my own car so I'm a borrowed car at the minute. The anticipation is getting childlike!!

Moe1013 · 20-11-2016 08:12PM

Btw Dave, when you say the black grille do you mean just changing the surround (that's chrome) with gloss black that matches the grille or is it a brand new full grille. Is it Matt in that case?

sligo_dave · 20-11-2016 08:43PM

Moe1013 wrote: »

Btw Dave, when you say the black grille do you mean just changing the surround (that's chrome) with gloss black that matches the grille or is it a brand new full grille. Is it Matt in that case?

If it's the same as my old e90 it's a full grill replacement, don't think the chrome surround separates from the centre. I think they are gloss, could be wrong. I hope it's gloss anyway. Matt is fine but I feel it looks like it's almost faded.

MarkN · 21-11-2016 10:44PM

Probably unrelated but M&G have knocked €20,000 off the list price of their 161 520d M-Sports as per Facebook today. So €45,000 for a year old one, a lot of dealers were looking for that for a 2 year old one recently. I wonder is the 330e doing anything to sales, particularly with the new model coming, not to mention the 530e.

bazz26 · 21-11-2016 11:03PM

I'd say the weak Sterling is starting to impact used prices of these cars here, that and the imminent arrival of the G30. I bought a 2 year old F10 back in March, I'd say I'd cry at it's trade-in value now.

bazz26 · 21-11-2016 11:09PM

Actually just looking there at the M&G 161 520d M Sport for 45k and it is a UK car so they are obviously taking advantage of the weak sterling too.

MarkN · 21-11-2016 11:20PM

Not sure the soon to be old model could get me to part with the 635 but some of those 161's are very fresh. I love that split rim wheel on some of them too!

bazz26 · 21-11-2016 11:36PM

These 19":
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or the 20":
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Voodoomelon · 21-11-2016 11:44PM

It's mad how big wheels are getting across the ranges. The S90 has a factory 22" option, they look the absolute business. And gone are the days where the low profile makes the ride unbearable, suspension systems are very well dampened to compensate.

carsfan2 · 22-11-2016 12:19AM

I can't imagine 330e is affecting sales of 5 series too much.
I think it's still very much a niche car.
Sterling is having some affect on car values definitely and it will be interesting to see how or if BMW react to merc dropping prices by 10% which I think is a mad move from a premium marque. Instantly erodes used values pissing off recent customers.

MarkN · 22-11-2016 06:53AM

You're right there, you'd be fairly pissed off having just bought a Merc and you have to factor that 10% across used prices of all Mercs really.
The 20's Bazz, they look lovely. Had the 19's on my F10, like them too. The only pain is when the tyres need to be done. Best I can get for a Bridgestone RFT 19" is 280 cost price, don't want to guess at the cost of the 20's.

bazz26 · 22-11-2016 11:06AM

MarkN wrote: »

You're right there, you'd be fairly pissed off having just bought a Merc and you have to factor that 10% across used prices of all Mercs really.
The 20's Bazz, they look lovely. Had the 19's on my F10, like them too. The only pain is when the tyres need to be done. Best I can get for a Bridgestone RFT 19" is 280 cost price, don't want to guess at the cost of the 20's.

Yeah the 20" are nice but just a bridge too far for me and the roads I travel. Have the 19" on my F10 too and I wouldn't go any bigger, even they offer nothing extra other than aesthetics in my view. Will be replacing the backs after Christmas with Goodyear Eagle F1s which are a bit cheaper here than the Bridgestones:

http://www.oponeo.ie/details-tyre/goodyear-eagle-f1-asymmetric-3-275-35-r19-100-y-run-on-flat-xl-fp---moe#125042154

carsfan2 · 22-11-2016 12:01PM

What sort of mileage would you get from the 19" Bazz?
I have them on the 330e.the ride is fine with them I find.

bazz26 · 22-11-2016 12:57PM

I've Dunlop Sport Maxx front and back but the back ones were new when I bought the car back in April. I've done 17k km since then and they are down to 3.44 mm now, the grip certainly isn't as good as it was so I'd say I'll be replacing them in the next 3 to 4 months. The Dunlops are ok but their grip really degrades when they get below the 4mm thread mark. Reviews suggest the Goodyear Eagle F1s are a very good all rounder and they are actually cheaper than the Dunlops too which is a nice bonus.

carsfan2 · 22-11-2016 01:57PM

I was hoping to get 25 to 30 k km out of my rears but the torque overwhelms them sometimes so may not happen.

Regards 2016 f10 520d m sport, I see on Bimmerpost they are saying that you can pick up a pre reg zero mile one for 25600 pounds or no deposit and 299 a month on pcp over 4 years. That's before haggling.
They're saying the bigger engine models are not much more. That's great value.
We get screwed here no doubt.

bazz26 · 22-11-2016 02:16PM

Just looking at the values of a second hand 330e in the UK and they seem to be remaining strong probably due to demand.

This one caught my eye:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201611199904653?advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Saloon&fuel-type=Hybrid&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&model=3%20SERIES&sort=price-asc&make=BMW&year-from=2015&radius=1500&postcode=se10ab&page=2

Your looking at around 39k + around 3k in VRT and whatever for the extras so roughly just under 45k. I priced a similar spec on the BMW calculator and it was coming in at around 58k list. VRT rebate and grant and your talking about 50.5k before haggling.

carsfan2 · 22-11-2016 02:31PM

330e is very popular in the uk due to company car tax rules. I think that might be changing in the future which will make it lot less attractive over there and values will fall I guess. Certainly the regular 3 series depreciates a lot over there.
The g30 5 series will depreciate just the same when they start selling in numbers.

MarkN · 22-11-2016 06:55PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

I see on Bimmerpost they are saying that you can pick up a pre reg zero mile one for 25600 pounds or no deposit and 299 a month on pcp over 4 years.

That is so affordable. Awful how we get shafted here.

Voodoomelon · 22-11-2016 09:03PM

That's insane value, link to the tread?

22-11-2016 09:17PM

These ones are more expensive.... http://www.halliwelljones.co.uk/bmw/offers/pre-reg-bmw-stock#cbpf=.5-series

carsfan2 · 22-11-2016 09:25PM

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1326479

Here is link to thread in question.

Voodoomelon · 22-11-2016 09:45PM

Seems there are deals across the board.

Brand new 730d is £499 a month (48), £15,500 deposit with a £10,000 deposit contribution from the dealer/manufacturer making it just £5,500. £24,500 final payment.

Not small money, but a bargain for that sector.

carsfan2 · 22-11-2016 10:06PM

I have always loved 6 series gran coupe.
9.5k deposit and 539 a month at zero per cent apr.
Why can't we get such deals over here?

mickdw · 23-11-2016 11:16AM

carsfan2 wrote: »

I have always loved 6 series gran coupe.
9.5k deposit and 539 a month at zero per cent apr.
Why can't we get such deals over here?

Jesus, we are getting ripped off.
70k sterling 7 series for sensible deposit and monthly.
Forgetting about 7 series, we should be able to get into a 70k euro BMW for similar figures in Euro yet we can't cause we are getting ridden. UK deals have massive discount by way of dealer contribution. That is where the deal is. It means you are not overly worried about equity at end cause you haven't put so much cash up front to begin with.

Voodoomelon · 23-11-2016 12:59PM

You can see why the northerners have such great cars and way more flagships; they're genuinely affordable.

bazz26 · 23-11-2016 01:30PM

The motorist has always been rode here, we are just a continuous source of revenue.

carsfan2 · 23-11-2016 02:27PM

The dealer contributions in the uk are basically BMW subsidies to move metal I presume. The move here by Mercedes to reduce prices by ten per cent is a clumsy way of doing the same thing.The market is so much bigger there too that volume must play a part in being able to sell at these prices.
Some of the straight lease deals they have are amazing too. Don't know why we can't have personal leasing in Ireland.
Vrt is the killer here I think

Idbatterim · 23-11-2016 05:08PM

The motorist has always been rode here, we are just a continuous source of revenue

we do get done here BUT people must be able to afford to lose mad money if they choose to buy new 5 series, e class etc. The 20,000k off the 161 520d m sport is laughable! Literally how do they charge that for the ENTRY level tractor engine? I mean they must sell in sufficient numbers at that price for it to be worth bmw's while, they are only charging what the market will pay. so I suppose my question is, who in gods name is prepared to pay that outrageous sum of money, for a very modest car in my opinion?

But at least they probably saved E10 on the tax, going from E280 to E270 etc :rolleyes:

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