Weeknight Late Date

Joe_ Public · 09-09-2016 10:22PM

Trebor176 wrote: »

She was on last weekend too, and will be on weekends for the month, or most of it. Fiachna has been filling in for John Creedon, and may be doing so for a couple of weeks at least.

Missed last weekend but that's good to know!

thesandeman · 09-09-2016 10:31PM

Trebor176 wrote: »

She was on last weekend too, and will be on weekends for the month, or most of it. Fiachna has been filling in for John Creedon, and may be doing so for a couple of weeks at least.

Fiachna is finished on Creedon now. He's covering for Cathal next week.

It's like being in a maze trying to keep up with this lot.

P. Breathnach · 10-09-2016 06:44AM

The messing about with that slot is very annoying.

Whoever makes the decisions seems to have no strategy or long-term view. Most of all, he or she seems to have no respect for the listeners.

Expunge · 10-09-2016 07:18AM

And the person who seems to be responsible is the former Mrs. Ryan Tubridy - Ann-Marie Power, Editor of Music and Entertainment at RTE Radio One.
It would seem that she manages that stable of, eh, thoroughbred Dee Jays.

jimd2 · 10-09-2016 07:38AM

I can't put my finger on it. Perhaps it's tiredness on my part but I isten to the show much less than before. Cathal and Fiachna are boring. Maybe I am more used to her but I am more likely to keep listening if Lilian or, in the past, Alf or Jim Lochart were on.

Joe_ Public · 10-09-2016 08:24AM

I think it's a question of identity. Lillian and Alf gave the show an identity that you need if you're going to attract and hold onto listeners, they really were Late Date. To be fair Cathal is trying very hard but he lacks the necessary warmth and ability to engage naturally that is required, and that's not a criticism, it's just there are other roles much more suitable than this one. I actually prefer the music he plays, but a presenter needs more than simple choice of discs.

Euphoria Intensifies · 16-09-2016 12:27AM

Jim Lockhart has been playing some good stuff this evening I must say.

thesandeman · 16-09-2016 03:58AM

Yep. Very relaxed presentation as well. I'd almost forgotten about him as a DJ.

Losty Dublin · 21-10-2016 01:05AM

Cathal Murray finished off this evening's show with this gem. Fiachna is on tomorrow and Lilian is back in this weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP1RTAft_B8

Joe_ Public · 21-10-2016 10:11AM

Cathal does play good music, or at least music I like. I'll get used to him yet, am in for the long haul!!

One thing that does annoy me about Late Date (I'm aware it takes little enough to annoy me!) is that they changed the weekday/weekend shifts from the old Mon-Fri, Sat-Sun to Sun-Thurs, Fri-Sat which I find a bit discommoding. No biggie but it throws me a bit. Weekend should be Saturday and Sunday. I still tune in Sundays expecting to hear Fiachna or Lillian and then Cathal comes on and it just doesn't feel right dammit!

Losty Dublin · 21-10-2016 01:46PM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Cathal does play good music, or at least music I like. I'll get used to him yet, am in for the long haul!!

One thing that does annoy me about Late Date (I'm aware it takes little enough to annoy me!) is that they changed the weekday/weekend shifts from the old Mon-Fri, Sat-Sun to Sun-Thurs, Fri-Sat which I find a bit discommoding. No biggie but it throws me a bit. Weekend should be Saturday and Sunday. I still tune in Sundays expecting to hear Fiachna or Lillian and then Cathal comes on and it just doesn't feel right dammit!

It still is a bit disjointed, I agree.

One time I've found about the show in general is that it takes time for any of the presenters musical tastes to settle down and to find it's place. Creedon took a lot of time given his wide ranges; Lilian as well with her grá of 50's swing and Alf with his endless list of 60's and early 70's bubblegummers. Cathal is really finding his was now with what is a lot more contemporary then his predecessors, Fiachna as well. In a years time and they will be there, mark my words.

Trebor176 · 23-10-2016 11:46AM

Lillian announced last night that she will be on Risin' Time next Monday, and for that week. She'll be on Late Date in mid November and early December, but I don't know if it will be a week long stint or more or just weekend cover.

serfboard · 24-10-2016 02:00PM

Trebor176 wrote: »

Lillian announced last night that she will be on Risin' Time next Monday, and for that week. She'll be on Late Date in mid November and early December, but I don't know if it will be a week long stint or more or just weekend cover.

That's not the first time she's covered Risin' Time. You'd have to feel sorry for Lillian. Her working life consists of a lot of time off, interspersed with periods of either going to bed at four o'clock in the morning, or getting up at four o'clock in the morning!

(And yes, I know she can always leave, but still ...)

Trebor176 · 24-10-2016 05:17PM

serfboard wrote: »

That's not the first time she's covered Risin' Time. You'd have to feel sorry for Lillian. Her working life consists of a lot of time off, interspersed with periods of either going to bed at four o'clock in the morning, or getting up at four o'clock in the morning!

(And yes, I know she can always leave, but still ...)

She may be happy enough with this arrangement. Though, maybe she has other work other than radio?

Lady Chatterton · 20-11-2016 01:55AM

Fiachna has played 'The Rose' by the Dubliners and The Hothouse Flowers every weekend for the last three weekends, it's a bit sad to be plugging your own band that much :rolleyes:

Joe_ Public · 20-11-2016 10:33AM

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Fiachna has played 'The Rose' by the Dubliners and The Hothouse Flowers every weekend for the last three weekends, it's a bit sad to be plugging your own band that much :rolleyes:

Ah, he does like a plug, our Fiachna. He was on with Ray D'Arcy on Friday afternoon plugging some upcoming thing the Flowers are doing with Top Gear but not content with that, he had to mention some new business venture his wife is involved in. Then on his own show later he plugs his wife's business again and then cheekily uses a texter's comment to plug it a second time, even joking that he might get in trouble for it. I doubt it Fiachna, it's standard RTE policy to plug everything and anything as much as you can get away with.

Shame because I do like Fiachna as a DJ but that kind of stuff would drive you mad.

Lady Chatterton · 20-11-2016 01:32PM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Ah, he does like a plug, our Fiachna. He was on with Ray D'Arcy on Friday afternoon plugging some upcoming thing the Flowers are doing with Top Gear but not content with that, he had to mention some new business venture his wife is involved in. Then on his own show later he plugs his wife's business again and then cheekily uses a texter's comment to plug it a second time, even joking that he might get in trouble for it. I doubt it Fiachna, it's standard RTE policy to plug everything and anything as much as you can get away with.

Shame because I do like Fiachna as a DJ but that kind of stuff would drive you mad.

Joe, I heard the shameless plug for his wife/partner's new coffee/chocolate venture on Friday night's Late Date too.

However, it's the flurry of texts requesting Hothouse Flowers music that cracks me up. I enjoy his music choices for the most part but it's a bit annoying when he can't get around to playing music requested by LD listeners but can play 'Flowers' music three weekends in a row.

serfboard · 20-11-2016 05:43PM

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

it's a bit annoying when he can't get around to playing music requested by LD listeners but can play 'Flowers' music three weekends in a row.

Is there not a conflict of interest there in that he benefits personally from the royalties paid by a publicly-funded station? Surely that should not be allowed?

Losty Dublin · 20-11-2016 11:14PM

serfboard wrote: »

Is there not a conflict of interest there in that he benefits personally from the royalties paid by a publicly-funded station? Surely that should not be allowed?

The royalties he'd get wouldn't be much more than a euro a play. Payola it ain't

Lady Chatterton · 26-11-2016 12:33AM

More Hothouse Flowers music tonight, four weekends in a row, Fiachna is on a roll.

Joe_ Public · 26-11-2016 09:52AM

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

More Hothouse Flowers music tonight, four weekends in a row, Fiachna is on a roll.

Shameless is as shameless does. What odds their next release will be the rte album of the week?

Trebor176 · 26-11-2016 04:05PM

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

More Hothouse Flowers music tonight, four weekends in a row, Fiachna is on a roll.

And, I Can See Clearly Now went to no.1 on iTunes during the week, don't you know? All thanks to a segment on the new 'Top Gear' on Amazon. Yes, it did get a mention last night too

26-11-2016 04:48PM

In Fiachna's defence, there is a lot of Flowers fans out there, and naturally, when one of the band is on the radio, you're going to get a surge in requests. Part of Fiachna'a appeal, for many people (myself included) is that he's a very well known guitarist/ vocalist for a very popular band.

You can't separate Fiachna from the role which most people know him for, i.e. a popular musician; this is inextricably linked to his job as a radio host, and arguably, it gives him an authority that other DJs might not enjoy. Plus he has some good anecdotes.

Tom Dunne is similar. It would be foolish to expect Tom Dunne not to reference his own music and experiences in a band, and he does so quite regularly. Lots of us enjoy it. I certainly wouldn't put this in the same category as Joe Duffy, shamelessly using the national broadcaster to flog his book for a handsome profit, given that it has no logical connection with the telephony duties he is paid to discharge.

I don't see why this bothers anyone. We all have spotify or alternative access to music,. you're not going to like every single tune a broadcaster plays, and it's not as though he's going to make some enormous profit from playing the occasional Flowers track.

Lady Chatterton · 26-11-2016 07:59PM

Trebor176 wrote: »

And, I Can See Clearly Now went to no.1 on iTunes during the week, don't you know? All thanks to a segment on the new 'Top Gear' on Amazon. Yes, it did get a mention last night too

It's for great for them and I'm delighted, they will hopefully get a few gigs out of 'The Grand Tour' exposure .....I might even have to start off a 'Fiachna plays Hothouse Flowers' thread soon

http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2016/1123/833860-hothouse-flowers/

snubbleste · 02-12-2016 10:50AM

Leo Varadkar to present Late Date
The Minister for Social Protection will be diving into his personal playlist as he presents an episode of the Late Date radio programme 27 December.

Joe_ Public · 02-12-2016 11:01AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

In Fiachna's defence, there is a lot of Flowers fans out there, and naturally, when one of the band is on the radio, you're going to get a surge in requests. Part of Fiachna'a appeal, for many people (myself included) is that he's a very well known guitarist/ vocalist for a very popular band.

You can't separate Fiachna from the role which most people know him for, i.e. a popular musician; this is inextricably linked to his job as a radio host, and arguably, it gives him an authority that other DJs might not enjoy. Plus he has some good anecdotes.

Tom Dunne is similar. It would be foolish to expect Tom Dunne not to reference his own music and experiences in a band, and he does so quite regularly. Lots of us enjoy it. I certainly wouldn't put this in the same category as Joe Duffy, shamelessly using the national broadcaster to flog his book for a handsome profit, given that it has no logical connection with the telephony duties he is paid to discharge.

I don't see why this bothers anyone. We all have spotify or alternative access to music,. you're not going to like every single tune a broadcaster plays, and it's not as though he's going to make some enormous profit from playing the occasional Flowers track.

I think Fiachna has done a pretty good job, I like his delivery and quite like the selection of music he plays. It doesn't particularly bother me that he regularly plays his own band's music or that he relentlessly plugged his wife's new business venture the other week, but I find it a bit cheeky at the same time. Not a sackable offence or anything, but still....

As for the benefits of having a well-known musician in the role, I can see that alright. I quite like Jim Lockhart too, although he's of a previous generation. But it's a bit like all the ex-footballers being signed up as columnists for the papers, they're often replacing journalists who did the job and to a lesser standard. Fiachna effectively took Lillian Smith's place and a lot of people, me included, would have and remain big fans of Lillian. Maybe it would help if I was a fan of his band, but I'm not.

Joe_ Public · 02-12-2016 11:07AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Leo Varadkar to present Late Date
The Minister for Social Protection will be diving into his personal playlist as he presents an episode of the Late Date radio programme 27 December.

Why not? Could be interesting enough.

ford fiesta · 02-12-2016 09:39PM

Sure everyone thinks they are a radio DJ these days......

http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2016/1201/835906-leo-varadkar-plans-a-late-date-on-rte-this-christmas/

04-12-2016 10:08AM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

As for the benefits of having a well-known musician in the role, I can see that alright. I quite like Jim Lockhart too, although he's of a previous generation. But it's a bit like all the ex-footballers being signed up as columnists for the papers, they're often replacing journalists who did the job and to a lesser standard. Fiachna effectively took Lillian Smith's place and a lot of people, me included, would have and remain big fans of Lillian. Maybe it would help if I was a fan of his band, but I'm not.

I liked (like) Lilian a lot too, but I don't think it's a matter of Fiachna having taken her job. I get the feeling there was something else going on behind the scenes, so abrupt was her departure, and she kind of hinted at that, too.

Alf McCarthy was blamed for Lilian leaving, and was quite emotional in having to deny that. Are we all now blaming Fiachna? Really.

Trebor176 · 04-12-2016 04:30PM

Lilian was on on Friday night. She said she'll be doing Thursday night's show, and will be on again on the 18th. I think she'll be doing Risin' Time over the Christmas too.

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