Bellator/WSOF/One FC etc events Thread

TimRiggins · 20-11-2016 03:39PM

Think he just signed a multi fight deal to Bellator, seems pretty happy there. A shame because he's arguably in the top 5/10 lightweights in the world

Gamebred · 20-11-2016 03:44PM

Very obvious GSP is straight into Bellator soon as his contract dispute is sorted will be paid massive money to show and sponsors.

Podge2k7 · 20-11-2016 03:57PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Very obvious GSP is straight into Bellator soon as his contract dispute is sorted will be paid massive money to show and sponsors.

GSP TWITTER wrote:

Thanks @chaelsonnen for inviting me to train in the @bellatormma cage! Learned so much new stuff under the supervision of @neilmelanson

Could just be a power play considering he's still in negotiations with the ufc.

Subcomandante Marcos · 20-11-2016 04:18PM

Podge2k7 wrote: »

Could just be a power play considering he's still in negotiations with the ufc.

He's not. He's in the middle of confirming with very expensive sports lawyers that his ufc contract is void. He's given the ufc notice of the same.

Wrongway1985 · 20-11-2016 06:09PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He's not. He's in the middle of confirming with very expensive sports lawyers that his ufc contract is void. He's given the ufc notice of the same.

Well from the interviews I've seen he's clearly at odds with the UFC. The recent one he did on the MMA hour while saying his layers/advisors told him he was free from his contract he delivered this news like it was gospel.

I struggle to see how the failure to get GSP an opponent by a deadline means his contract is void even as I typed that it's ludicrous. Oh Robbie can't fight after the recovery from the Woodley fight is taking too long, ok sound see ye lads I'm off to Bellator!

Gamebred · 20-11-2016 07:55PM

Anyone see the MVP fight last night? it was 3 rounds of break dancing cant wait to see him exposed sick of the matching bellator are giving him.

thewheel2.0 · 21-11-2016 12:07AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Anyone see the MVP fight last night? it was 3 rounds of break dancing cant wait to see him exposed sick of the matching bellator are giving him.

Yeah MVP can't blame his opponent there. Completely turned me off MVP.

Gamebred · 21-11-2016 12:10AM

thewheel2.0 wrote: »

Yeah MVP can't blame his opponent there. Completely turned me off MVP.

They are treating him like hes a 19 year old prospect, hes nearly 30 and fighting bums starting to think Bellator will never give him a step up in competition because they know Santa Claus aint real to coin a phrase.

TimRiggins · 21-11-2016 12:19AM

Gamebred wrote: »

They are treating him like hes a 19 year old prospect, hes nearly 30 and fighting bums starting to think Bellator will never give him a step up in competition because they know Santa Claus aint real to coin a phrase.

Gonzalez was on a 5 fight win streak in Bellator before the MVP fight and Santos was a name in their division. They weren't littered with top quality Welterweights before that. Hardly bums.

CurryFlavoured · 21-11-2016 12:23AM

MVP looks all hype, split decision win over a guy with something like a 20-10 record. Santos was taking him down and causing trouble in R1 too. Rory, Koreshkov, Lima all beat him easily enough I'd imagine.

CurryFlavoured · 21-11-2016 12:25AM

Let him fight Paul Daley, no excuses there because Daley won't take him down.

Gamebred · 21-11-2016 12:25AM

TimRiggins wrote: »

Gonzalez was on a 5 fight win streak in Bellator before the MVP fight and Santos was a name in their division. They weren't littered with top quality Welterweights before that. Hardly bums.

Ah come on cyborg is knocking around donkeys years hes about 40 years old with a record with 20 wins 20 losses or something shocking like that far cry from the one who fought Nick Diaz,

That lad last night is 25 and 14 you cant honestly say you even heard of a single person on his record bar Karo Parisyan.

Gamebred · 21-11-2016 12:25AM

His head would be caved in if they match him against either of them 3, this is actually doing him harm protecting him like this.

TimRiggins · 21-11-2016 12:31AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Ah come on cyborg is knocking around donkeys years hes about 40 years old with a record with 20 wins 20 losses or something shocking like that far cry from the one who fought Nick Diaz,

That lad last night is 25 and 14 you cant honestly say you even heard of a single person on his record bar Karo Parisyan.

The only other welterweights they could give him are probably Brennan Ward or Saad Awad who just fought each other and were booked at the time. Just because they have mediocre records doesn't make them bad fighters. They should give him Daley/Ward next anyway but you're making it out that Bellator are littered with top class welterweights that they could be giving him.

Mellor · 21-11-2016 12:47AM

TimRiggins wrote: »

The only other welterweights they could give him are probably Brennan Ward or Saad Awad who just fought each other and were booked at the time. Just because they have mediocre records doesn't make them bad fighters. They should give him Daley/Ward next anyway but you're making it out that Bellator are littered with top class welterweights that they could be giving him.

They aren't bad fighters in grand scheme. But their records paint a fair picture of them. Mixed bag, with slightly more wins than losses. Career journeyman types.

People are still fawning of MVPs highlight reel verses debutants in the UK. He signed for as a prospect. He's 8-0 since then. The divisions aren't big, so it took careful matchmaking to get to this point.

He should fight Daley, Lima or Koreshkov next.

TimRiggins · 21-11-2016 01:14AM

Mellor wrote: »

They aren't bad fighters in grand scheme. But their records paint a fair picture of them. Mixed bag, with slightly more wins than losses. Career journeyman types.

People are still fawning of MVPs highlight reel verses debutants in the UK. He signed for as a prospect. He's 8-0 since then. The divisions aren't big, so it took careful matchmaking to get to this point.

He should fight Daley, Lima or Koreshkov next.

Yeah I agree, but Gonzalez was the best match up to give him before he gets one of the big guns. On a 5 fight win streak and was 25-13 before the fight, not the worst record.

He's not gonna fight Lima for the belt anyway I'd say Rory will. I'd love to see him against Brennan Ward, would be a good fight and a good test to see where he's at. Either him or Paul Daley. MVP against Daley would be a very good headliner for 1 of their 4 UK/Irish shows next year.

Mellor · 21-11-2016 02:45AM

TimRiggins wrote: »

Yeah I agree, but Gonzalez was the best match up to give him before he gets one of the big guns.

Gonzo is a good gate keeper I agree. But MVP is 8-0 in their WW division, he should have been fighting Gonzo 2 or 3 fights ago, progressed much further by now (or lost obv).

Lima got a shot after 3 wins, and his second after 5 wins
Koreshkov was 5 wins for his shot, and 3 for his second
Amoussou had 4 wins
Hieron had 3 wins.
Rick Hawn has 3 and 4
Ben Askren had 3 wins.

So it's fairly clear, 3 or 4 wins is the norm for a titleshot. That's due to the tournament format for deciding no.1 contenders.
MVP making it to 8 fights and barely scratching the top tier is a joke really

TimRiggins · 21-11-2016 02:53AM

Mellor wrote: »

Gonzo is a good gate keeper I agree. But MVP is 8-0 in their WW division, he should have been fighting Gonzo 2 or 3 fights ago, progressed much further by now (or lost obv).

Lima got a shot after 3 wins, and his second after 5 wins
Koreshkov was 5 wins for his shot, and 3 for his second
Amoussou had 4 wins
Hieron had 3 wins.
Rick Hawn has 3 and 4
Ben Askren had 3 wins.

So it's fairly clear, 3 or 4 wins is the norm for a titleshot. That's due to the tournament format for deciding no.1 contenders.
MVP making it to 8 fights and barely scratching the top tier is a joke really

He probably should have gotten better match ups but too call his opposition bums isn't right. He'll get someone bigger in his next fight anyway I'm sure.

CurryFlavoured · 21-11-2016 11:46AM

They are bums in comparison if we're talking about whether or not MVP is elite. They've barely even got winning records.

Gamebred · 22-11-2016 09:45PM

https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/801159239045709825

poor.

CurryFlavoured · 22-11-2016 10:09PM

That's kind of surprising, I wonder what Bendo was on in the UFC. Also wonder what Rory will be on.

Wrongway1985 · 22-11-2016 10:27PM

Gamebred wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/801159239045709825

poor.

Not panning out well for Bendo, I'm sure that would have been fight of the night if it was the UFC and $50,000 the same as his base pay would have awarded. He also had a sole tiny hard to see sponsor on his shorts hard to see how they pay him close to 15k (his last Reebok money).

No win Bonus for the champion shocking! Paid the same amount as the challenger for probably the biggest win of his career.

Wrongway1985 · 22-11-2016 10:30PM

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

That's kind of surprising, I wonder what Bendo was on in the UFC. Also wonder what Rory will be on.

Bendo was like 48/48 on his last contract. As champion he was 100/100 :eek: (Info from fight with Gil... http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/4/22/4252310/ufc-on-fox-7-salaries-benson-henderson-earns-200000-for-win-over )

Mellor · 22-11-2016 10:53PM

I never really understood people who talkedabout fighter going to the Belator or wherever to get better pay. They pay dirt, and always have. They might have a headliner on 200k for a one-off event (Tito, Chael, etc) but if you are in anyway regular it's poor.
The other end of the scale is much worse.

And sure reebok money is crap for popular main care fighters. But I don't believe anyone is getting buttons on the undercard is getting 20k for a logo nobody will see

Gamebred · 22-11-2016 11:08PM

https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/801182545874296832

I'm not mad for championing fighter pay nobody puts a gun to their head to pursue the career but seen as I watch as much mma cards as possible across different orgs I'd like to think they get compensated fairly for the entertainment they give us all, look at that money absolute peanuts.

finglashoop · 22-11-2016 11:21PM

Gamebred wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/801182545874296832

I'm not mad for championing fighter pay nobody puts a gun to their head to pursue the career but seen as I watch as much mma cards as possible across different orgs I'd like to think they get compensated fairly for the entertainment they give us all, look at that money absolute peanuts.

Please tell me jake roberts nickname is the snake

ASOT · 22-11-2016 11:23PM

Gamebred wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/801182545874296832

I'm not mad for championing fighter pay nobody puts a gun to their head to pursue the career but seen as I watch as much mma cards as possible across different orgs I'd like to think they get compensated fairly for the entertainment they give us all, look at that money absolute peanuts.

On the flip side of things would they get even less at a regional promotion?

Mellor · 22-11-2016 11:25PM

finglashoop wrote: »

Please tell me jake roberts nickname is the snake

http://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Jake-Roberts-155005

Wrongway1985 · 22-11-2016 11:29PM

Jaysus Sarah D'alelio 1.5k/1.5k :eek::eek::eek: won and made less than Kimbos son in his first pro fight and he lost!!...That woman fought Rousey and holds a win over the current UFC champion!!

finglashoop · 22-11-2016 11:43PM

Mellor wrote: »

http://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Jake-Roberts-155005

Ta

Miles off so I was

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