Phoenix Park tunnel: 4 trains per hour from 2016

XPS_Zero wrote: »

Did I misunderstand s point there??

They are taking the v comfortable ICRs off the already slow diabolical single track in parts Rosslare line and putting those freezing uncomfortable leaky commuter sets on??

...and supposed dedicated train geeks think this is a GOOD thing? Have you lost your minds? It's an intercity route it's not like going Connolly to Maynooth

In fact half them are commuter sets now and I always mutter "crap" under my breath when I see it's not an ICR.

Jeez you'd swear we had it cushy on the Maynooth line! All of ours are "crap"!

n97 mini wrote: »

Jeez you'd swear we had it cushy on the Maynooth line! All of ours are "crap"!

I would t know anything about such rabble

n97 mini wrote: »

Jeez you'd swear we had it cushy on the Maynooth line! All of ours are "crap"!

To be fair, the Maynooth line as far as Maynooth is a commuter line, and as such services should be run by commuter stock, as standing capacity on ICRs is lacking, not to mention the narrow doors impacting dwell times at platforms. Rosslare, on the other hand, is almost 160km by road from Connolly (compared with Maynooth being <30km by road from Pearse) and should operated by appropriate stock which reflects this fact. So in this context "crap" is all relative

XPS_Zero wrote: »

I assume this is why the uber-long route 5:40 from Rosslare to Dundalk isn't an ICR even though it's long distance? It's as packed as a London tube car at rush hour

that train is effectively 3 services rolled into one - it's an Intercity from Rosslare and Wexford, a commuter service from Wicklow into town and then a commuter to Dundalk. It's only really busy (standing room only) on the middle section between Greystones and Pearse.

trellheim wrote: »

I have suggested several times running one or two trial Dublin Cork Services ( eg First and Last of the day ) from GCD or pearse or run a relief but every time people bang on about why it can't be done. It is certainly possible.

The 06:15 direct CK - HN service could and should be a direct service to Connolly, then continuing to Pearse and GCD. It's common sense.

cython wrote: »

Why is it you hope to see ICRs taken off a long-haul service (insofar as Ireland has long-haul rail) to operate commuter services? Are you suggesting the 29ks be made even more prevalent on the Rosslare line?

ah jesus , there not going to remove the ICRs from the wexford line, the strategic rail review recomended they increases services and all services should be long distance transets

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Not a all, it would need to justify demand and currently it's probally the lowest loaded service into Heuston in the morning....

Maybe the reason it's the lowest loaded is because it's not bringing the suits where they need to go ie. the Docklands and centre. For me, the placement of Heuston is one of the main reasons I use the bus on Cork - Dublin whenever I'm needed up there. A service terminating in GCD could be the difference to some people driving up and some people taking a train to their meeting. I've done the Dublin traffic and at times I've walked quicker. In my opinion, extending the service couldn't do much harm.

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

It would be worth running a busier commuter service during valuable peak slots. From day one there was a weak case for a non stop ex Cork in the mornings. Management ego's are the reason its running.

well at least it's running, and maybe it can build up custom given time (actual time that is)

Deleted User wrote: »

Why does rté news have a picture of an train stopped at platform 10 when the train doesn't stop there.

Need you ask when they send a Prime Time reporter to Ballybrophy for their report as sending one to interview people in Roscrea or Nenagh would be too much effort.

Col_30 wrote: »

I got the 8:15 from Adamstown this morning. It was 10 minutes late into Adamstown station. We lost another 5 min during the journey with delays outside Park West. Around 15 min late in total. Not sure if it's the usual leaves issue at this time of year or operational teething problems, but not a good start. :rolleyes:

same train for me

took 65 minutes to get to Pearse instead of scheduled 45

stopped twice to allow trains to pass at speed

I contacted irish rail and got the usual low rail adhesion spin.....funny that such problems don't affect the trains passing us!!

If this is to be the norm it will be faster getting a Hueston train and changing to a bus or a direct bus

I also noticed my usual train had only 3 carriages this morning....IR musta taken carraiges out of services to add to this 'increased' service :mad:

services are already stretched as it is...no need to be cannibalising whats already there for the new service.

Does the Docklands-M3 Parkway line share any track with the new PPT line or does it branch off prior? Would prefer if they didn't to ensure potential sharing delays are avoided!

BoatMad wrote: »

ah jesus , there not going to remove the ICRs from the wexford line, the strategic rail review recomended they increases services and all services should be long distance transets

I wasn't suggesting they were, but was more curious as to the quoted poster's apparent hope that they would....

So far today services have largely operated within schedules, maybe a minute or two early/late in some cases.

The 08.15 from Adamstwon departed 5 minutes late, but I suspect this service will be held regularly around Park West unless they can manage to defer the schedules by a few minutes, time will tell. Same with 08.35 service, IC has to be given clear runs at such a critical hour.

Any other issues have been on Connolly side.

They have the Train ID's kept for future off peak services.

Evening all,

Iarnród Éireann launched their new commuter services connecting stations between Newbridge and Parkwest with Connolly to Grand Canal Dock via the Phoenix Park Tunnel line on Monday 21st November.

The introduction of the new services follows an investment of €13.7 million in upgrading the Phoenix Park Tunnel route, funded by the National Transport Authority.

Seven new morning peak trains to Grand Canal Dock, and eight new evening peak trains from Grand Canal Dock begin on Monday 21st November, with limited stop services in the opposite direction.

Passenger loadings on the two inbound services this morning which I travelled on were very healthy and it is a good indication that it will be a popular service in the coming years.

This is the first phase of services to operate via the Phoenix Park Tunnel. Iarnród Éireann and the National Transport Authority plan to expand services in the future to include off-peak and weekend services.

Click http://smu.gs/2gvoIZS to view. There will also be a video uploaded to the gallery and pictures of one of the evening peak workings later this evening (all going to plan).