Push bikes with an engine

ted1 · 19-11-2016 01:34AM

PucaMama wrote: »

@magentis yes they are legal look up electric bikes

You should look them up.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2005/si/412/made/en/print

These Regulations do not apply to—
3.2.c
(c) cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated power of 0.25 kW of which the output is progressively reduced and finally cut off as the vehicle reaches a speed of 25 km/h, or sooner, if the cyclist stops pedalling, and

A bike with an engine is a moped (or a larger one is a motorbike)

“moped” means a two-wheel vehicle (category L1e) or a three-wheel vehicle (category L2e) with a maximum design speed of not more than 45 km/h and characterised by—

(a) in the case of a two-wheel type, an engine whose:

(i) cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm3 in the case of the internal combustion engine type, or

(ii) maximum continuous rated power is no more than 4 kW in the case of an electric motor;

Pinch Flat · 19-11-2016 09:55AM

There's a fella in adverts does a roaring trade in them

http://touch.adverts.ie/for-sale/user-930266/

Saw one last week in Marino - your man was ticking in handy enough. I'd imagine they're illegal.

Could never understand why proper mopeds never took off like you see on the continent - perfect mobility for teenagers, over paying €5,000 or whatever annually to insure a car.

Amalgam · 19-11-2016 10:11AM

browner85 wrote: »

I seen a chap stopped by the Garda on the side of the road on one of them ...... Looked like he wasn't going to be finishing his journey on said bike.... I'd love a go of one but wouldn't say they would be the safest method of transport

Safer than what they used to be, with the mass of the engine over the front wheel, like a french, 'VéloSoleX', which my grandfather used.. and I had a lot of fun on, in my teens.

Does the legal status of a push bike change if the engine doesn't engage a chain? Working by friction against a wheel?

nice_guy80 · 19-11-2016 10:28AM

Fella up in Cavan who will convert a bike for ya

19-11-2016 12:11PM

We used to call these things Granny Chasers.

gk5000 · 19-11-2016 12:12PM

Few guys using them on the canal greenway between Lucan and town.

Bit of a pain when they pass you - You're left on your regular bike breathing through a trail of nasty 2-stroke engine smoke.

Where is the enforcement?
Must report them next time I see one on the canal - they can stick to the roads with the rest of the mechanical vehicles if they like.

Pkiernan · 19-11-2016 12:16PM

They're legal for pikeys and scumbags apparently.

PucaMama · 19-11-2016 12:30PM

ted1 wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

@magentis yes they are legal look up electric bikes

You should look them up.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2005/si/412/made/en/print

These Regulations do not apply to
3.2.c
(c) cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated power of 0.25 kW of which the output is progressively reduced and finally cut off as the vehicle reaches a speed of 25 km/h, or sooner, if the cyclist stops pedalling, and

A bike with an engine is a moped (or a larger one is a motorbike)

moped means a two-wheel vehicle (category L1e) or a three-wheel vehicle (category L2e) with a maximum design speed of not more than 45 km/h and characterised by

(a) in the case of a two-wheel type, an engine whose:

(i) cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm3 in the case of the internal combustion engine type, or

(ii) maximum continuous rated power is no more than 4 kW in the case of an electric motor;

Your first part of the quote says the bikes I'm talking about are legal. They can't go over 25kph.

ted1 · 19-11-2016 02:29PM

PucaMama wrote: »

Your first part of the quote says the bikes I'm talking about are legal. They can't go over 25kph.

Aling with the two other criteria

Ted111 · 19-11-2016 02:41PM

ted1 wrote: »

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2005/si/412/made/en/print

These Regulations do not apply to—

Anything that meets the definition of a bike you quote - it says the 'these regulations do not apply to'. It says no more than that. What are these regulations?

Skatedude · 19-11-2016 03:05PM

Has anyone actually contacted the authorities on actually taxing etc?
I know they are illigal, but I doubt it's even possible to licience, tax and insure them in ireland.

Push bikes with an engine

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