Push bikes with an engine

Father Hernandez · 18-11-2016 08:16PM #1

So there's me slumming it on the (push) bike after work returning to home when this lad on a push bike zooms by me.

No peddling, smoke in his mouth and an almighty engine sound coming from it.

Made me jealous, how legal are they? Anyone else seen anybody on 'em?

snubbleste · 18-11-2016 08:18PM

I'd imagine they are popular in Cuba

osarusan · 18-11-2016 08:20PM

I've seen somebody traveling into Limerick in the mornings on one of these.

PucaMama · 18-11-2016 08:21PM

Father Hernandez wrote: »

So there's me slumming it on the (push) bike after work returning to home when this lad on a push bike zooms by me.

No peddling, smoke in his mouth and an almighty engine sound coming from it.

Made me jealous, how legal are they? Anyone else seen anybody on 'em?

legal if they cant go over 25kph

had one go by me on monday surprisingly fast

LordSutch · 18-11-2016 09:24PM

we really need a link to a picture of one.

Ted111 · 18-11-2016 09:27PM

Its a "mechanically propelled vehicle" according to law

And so the rozzers might be looking for tax and insurance off ya

Sam Kade · 18-11-2016 09:27PM

LordSutch wrote: »

we really need a link to a picture of one.

http://dublinchristmasflea.ie/stalls/2015/push-bike-engine/

The wonder of google.

Fleawuss · 18-11-2016 09:28PM

snubbleste wrote: »

I'd imagine they are popular in Cuba

And the Tour de France.

machiavellianme · 18-11-2016 09:30PM

PucaMama wrote: »

legal if they cant go over 25kph

had one go by me on monday surprisingly fast

Yeah, I was overtaken by one with a petrol engine today heading into the rds. According to strava my average speed was 36kph and yet this lad left me for dust. He only pedalled 3 rotations to start it at the traffic lights and never pedalled again the rest of the way in till he vanished.

The_Valeyard · 18-11-2016 09:30PM

snubbleste wrote: »

I'd imagine they are popular in Cuba

Ah the new Packard we've been hearing so much about

Skerries · 18-11-2016 09:33PM

you can buy electric bikes but it looks like the petrol ones are illegal

magentis · 18-11-2016 09:34PM

PucaMama wrote: »

legal if they cant go over 25kph

had one go by me on monday surprisingly fast

They aint legal regardless of the speed they can do.

artanevilla · 18-11-2016 09:34PM

They're called motorbikes.

browner85 · 18-11-2016 09:36PM

I seen a chap stopped by the Garda on the side of the road on one of them ...... Looked like he wasn't going to be finishing his journey on said bike.... I'd love a go of one but wouldn't say they would be the safest method of transport

westcoast66 · 18-11-2016 09:53PM

So the law is that you need license, tax and insurance for any mechanically propelled vehicle. How would you actually get the above for an electric scooter?!

dusty207 · 18-11-2016 09:57PM

LordSutch wrote: »

we really need a link to a picture of one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-80CC-2-STROKE-PETROL-GAS-MOTOR-BICYCLE-ENGINE-MOTOR-KIT-FOR-MOTORIZED-BIKE-/141906076854?hash=item210a42e4b6:g:uHIAAOSwdIFX14c0

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Stroke-Motorised-Bicycle-Cycle-Bike-Petrol-Gas-Engine-Motor-Kit-Muffler-80cc-/291847419318?hash=item43f37635b6:g:0mgAAOSw0UdXsuA9

looksee · 18-11-2016 10:00PM

westcoast66 wrote: »

So the law is that you need license, tax and insurance for any mechanically propelled vehicle. How would you actually get the above for an electric scooter?!

Its the difference between propelled and assisted. You have to pedal the electric bike, you just get assistance from the motor, whereas the petrol ones are propelled. You don't need tax and insurance for the electric ones.

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant · 18-11-2016 10:01PM

Good few lads around us have them they work on a 2 stroke engine I think and they can be fitted to any bike I think and you can buy them off ebay or the like I think also I think they are legal but not 100% sure! Just make sure you wear a helmet if you get one!

18-11-2016 10:07PM

Electric bikes are legal only if their top speed is 25kmh (most cyclists on racing bikes can go much faster) the motor is a maximum power of 250W and you must be peddling.

crosstownk · 18-11-2016 10:57PM

The engine or motor can only assist propulsion. With an ebike the rider MUST pedal - the bike will not move itself. If the rider pedals he/she gets assistance up to 25km/h - if pedalling stops, assistance stops.

If the bike powers itself via a throttle lever then it's a mechanically propelled vehicle that is liable for motor tax, insurance and licensing (registration) and probably VRT also.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 18-11-2016 11:02PM

Have you really never seen or heard of a moped. They are around almost 100 years.

ollaetta · 18-11-2016 11:07PM

Loud cnuts of things. One of these yokes on my estate wakes me up most mornings.

18-11-2016 11:13PM

Some cyclist can use the horsepower of others!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYp4srEooI

PucaMama · 18-11-2016 11:15PM

@magentis yes they are legal look up electric bikes

18-11-2016 11:16PM

Malakai Obedient Cylinder wrote: »

Have you really never seen or heard of a moped. They are around almost 100 years.

Mopeds still need a license, used to get a moped license free when you passed the car driving test, I did. My first moped was a 1961 vintage (it wasn't that old back then , in fact it was made after me

)

Jimoslimos · 18-11-2016 11:20PM

looksee wrote: »

Its the difference between propelled and assisted. You have to pedal the electric bike, you just get assistance from the motor, whereas the petrol ones are propelled. You don't need tax and insurance for the electric ones.

This is true, but I have seen a few around where the pedal assist requirement appears to be modified/disabled.

ED E · 18-11-2016 11:20PM

westcoast66 wrote: »

So the law is that you need license, tax and insurance for any mechanically propelled vehicle. How would you actually get the above for an electric scooter?!

You can't. Segways etc can only be used on private property though its ignored by AGS like most things.

FortySeven · 18-11-2016 11:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some cyclist can use the horsepower of others!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYp4srEooI

We used to do this behind the school bus. Crazy speeds reached on the dual carriageway. 3 inches off the back of the bus.

One of my friends went left to make a turn from behind the bus and went straight into a parked car at about 30mph.

There is a guy comes out the headford road every morning from Galway on one of these petrol bikes. He seems to have enough problems with it. He'll be grand for a week then it's not working and he's pedalling for a week then he's back at it for a while. They don't seem very reliable. Hrs been pedalling at least a third of the year.

magentis · 19-11-2016 01:26AM

PucaMama wrote: »

@magentis yes they are legal look up electric bikes

Thread title; Push bikes with an engine

The post you quoted was nothing to do with an electric bike.

ted1 · 19-11-2016 01:28AM

PucaMama wrote: »

legal if they cant go over 25kph

had one go by me on monday surprisingly fast

Not quite there . There's added criteria
Legal if they can't go over 25kmh and have a max output of 250W and if the engine only works when they are being pedalled.

ted1 · 19-11-2016 01:30AM

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Good few lads around us have them they work on a 2 stroke engine I think and they can be fitted to any bike I think and you can buy them off ebay or the like I think also I think they are legal but not 100% sure! Just make sure you wear a helmet if you get one!

No they are not legal

Push bikes with an engine

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