El Presidente Trump

12-11-2016 04:00AM

I actually don't mind the wall.

Personally I'm all for immigration. But if a country has strict rules and hard borders, then it's entitled to reinforce them. It wouldn't be my preference, but on the other hand we can't demand that a country have strict rules but porous borders.

But from the above it's beginning to sound like one big albatross around his neck. He kinda has to go ahead and quickly, "build that wall" being the bedrock of so much of his support. But if it's just not possible, if it's going to face years of litigation and huge construction costs, it's already starting to look like it won't happen. That would be a disaster for him, I think there's a demand that it go up and an expectation that it go up quickly, and that won't be placated by better link fencing and more guard dogs.

Grayson · 12-11-2016 04:06AM

When people say it's more of a virtual wall do they mean like minecraft?

kowloon · 12-11-2016 04:07AM

midlandsmissus wrote: »

If you do it to us, we will do it to you,

The Dickening.

This could cause a gender war.

PM sent

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Dick phelan · 12-11-2016 04:09AM

People who actually thought he could build a wall no problem really didn't think it through, the boarder is so vast Trump would need to buy up tons of other people's property and i'm guessing not everyone will want to sell just to build a wall and even if he did it would take a lot of time and money to do so, he would face tons of legal issues which would probably take years for them all to go through the courts, appeals ect Then there's how long it would actually take to build such a massive project especially as the area is not easy to build on, lots of rivers , mountains ect. The presidency in America is only 4 years, with all the legal issues that would need to be sorted plus the amount of construction time, there is no chance it would probably even be started by the time Trump is out the door. It's pie in the sky rubbish, what will likely happen is some more fencing and a few more guards but a wall not a chance.

12-11-2016 04:13AM

This thread is just showing a complete lack of understanding of why people voted from him. You've been told that they're sexist racists who want a wall but that wasn't his voter base at all.

Over on the_donald right now, the third highest voted post is that he said same sex couples should have the same rights.

That subreddit is a very good representation of who his supporters are. It ties in perfectly with the few Americans I've met who're happy he won.
Go look at it, try to find anything racist or sexist. Organise by top:all time and see what gets the most support.

Glico Man · 12-11-2016 04:14AM

To steal a Bill Burr joke, by the time the wall is built, Americans would be the ones climbing over it.

Junkyard Tom · 12-11-2016 04:23AM

A wall doesn't need to be physical. Area 51 doesn't a have a physical wall but you'd not get near the place.

20Cent · 12-11-2016 04:24AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This thread is just showing a complete lack of understanding of why people voted from him. You've been told that they're sexist racists who want a wall but that wasn't his voter base at all.

Over on the_donald right now, the third highest voted post is that he said same sex couples should have the same rights.

That subreddit is a very good representation of who his supporters are. It ties in perfectly with the few Americans I've met who're happy he won.
Go look at it, try to find anything racist or sexist. Organise by top:all time and see what gets the most support.

His .gov website says otherwise about gay people. Seems he says one thing, has something else on his site and then changes his mind anyway!

12-11-2016 04:30AM

20Cent wrote: »

His .gov website says otherwise about gay people. Seems he says one thing, has something else on his site and then changes his mind anyway!

I'm talking about his voters.

tomwaterford · 12-11-2016 04:31AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

A wall doesn't need to be physical. Area 51 doesn't a have a physical wall but you'd not get near the place.

Tbh.....it will be somewhat of a sham if he can't even manage to get his one policy he was most vocal and famous for done

He surly can't be that out of his depth that he can't the wall built??

**I really wanna see this like

He won againest all odds.....I'm pretty sure he'll pull off the wall......I'd be pretty pissed if I voted for him and he wanted to write it off as wishy washy double speak imaginable wall

12-11-2016 04:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This thread is just showing a complete lack of understanding of why people voted from him. You've been told that they're sexist racists who want a wall but that wasn't his voter base at all.

Over on the_donald right now, the third highest voted post is that he said same sex couples should have the same rights...

It's funny that there are so many videos of him and his supporters chanting what sounds very like "build that wall" in city after city. Often started by him saying it again and again and the crowd taking it up.

Maybe "same rights for same sex couples" just sounds very like "build that wall" when said in an American accent?

20Cent · 12-11-2016 04:35AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm talking about his voters.

The old mind reading must be on the blink.

"Over on the_donald right now, the third highest voted post is that he said same sex couples should have the same rights."

Glico Man · 12-11-2016 04:39AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Tbh.....it will be somewhat of a sham if he can't even manage to get his one policy he was most vocal and famous for done

He surly can't be that out of his depth that he can't the wall built??

**I really wanna see this like

He won againest all odds.....I'm pretty sure he'll pull off the wall......I'd be pretty pissed if I voted for him and he wanted to write it off as wishy washy double speak imaginable wall

To be fair, it was the only policy I'd heard from him. The rest were bs of the highest order with no coherent message at all, "I know policies, the best policies" or some garbage like that.

But good luck to him for building what is essentially a four day car drive in distance wall on some of the worst terrain to build upon.

Junkyard Tom · 12-11-2016 04:45AM

Trump has promised more than Obama did and will probably be more disappointing to his fanboys. Trump has already hired a load of swamp-dwellers to 'drain the swamp'.

12-11-2016 04:51AM

20Cent wrote: »

The old mind reading must be on the blink.

"Over on the_donald right now, the third highest voted post is that he said same sex couples should have the same rights."

I'm confused.. I'm saying his supporters upvoted it. What are you saying?

20Cent · 12-11-2016 04:53AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm confused.. I'm saying his supporters upvoted it. What are you saying?

Confused is right lol
Did u read the post.
It's easy to understand.

Arturo Bandini · 12-11-2016 05:55AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This thread is just showing a complete lack of understanding of why people voted from him. You've been told that they're sexist racists who want a wall but that wasn't his voter base at all.

Over on the_donald right now, the third highest voted post is that he said same sex couples should have the same rights.

That subreddit is a very good representation of who his supporters are. It ties in perfectly with the few Americans I've met who're happy he won.
Go look at it, try to find anything racist or sexist. Organise by top:all time and see what gets the most support.

I've always found it amusing when people use the_donald as some sort of proof of the insanity of Trump supporters. It's incredibly tame compared to what some would have you believe.

wonderfullife · 12-11-2016 06:03AM

I'm still amazed he got away with not releasing his tax returns.

Fair enough, there might be nothing in them to disqualify him from being President....but equally there might be. They could show anything really.

namloc1980 · 12-11-2016 07:37AM

Trump's Presidential transition team is stuffed full of political insiders, establishment figures, lobbyists and he's gone for a bit of good old fashioned nepotism by stuffing a number of family members in there too. Not really "draining the swamp". I'm sure his supporters will have excuses for this.

Manic Moran · 12-11-2016 08:30AM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Amerika wrote: »

Agreed, the TrumpApocalypse of the Left has been great entertainment watching them stroke out is comical.

And when Obama got elected all the white southerners got more guns to prevent the apocalypse.

Sure aren't the America's great craic altogether!?

In fairness, it seems to have worked. The apocalypse didn't seem to happen, and the white southerners didn't seem to commit an uprising.

Renegade Mechanic · 12-11-2016 08:32AM

REMEMBER TO WEAR YOUR SAFETY PINS, FOLKS.
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/people-are-wearing-safety-pins-to-protest-trump-and-signal-that-theyre-a-safe-space/
Yeah... Afraid a roving band of "trumplets" are going to beat you up? Make sure to mark yourself out and make it rreeeeaaaaaaalllyy easy for them...

Chain Smoker · 12-11-2016 08:33AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

I'm sure his supporters will have excuses for this.

Of course, but there's no point going like rottweilers after the 40% of the electorate that are just gonna vote red no matter what in the same way as there's little point in a republican candidate wasting time on California and New York.

If he fails to deliver anything to the areas that swung red this time and an alternative is presented that can at least attempt to offer them something, they'll swing right back.

vladmydad · 12-11-2016 08:44AM

Hes got staggering opportunity to destroy the dem party.It seems a lot of black men up north went for trump along with white men.If he can lock down there support in those rust belt states he'll block the dems path in the electoral map.He's also the most powerful republican president ever with both houses of congress and the ability to stack the supreme court in order to protect his legacy.and the dems face a extremely difficult senate race in 2018 with dems up for re-election in deep red states.In other words he can implement his full agenda,yes even the wall.

tomwaterford · 12-11-2016 08:48AM

vladmydad wrote: »

Hes got staggering opportunity to destroy the dem party.It seems a lot of black men up north went for trump along with white men.If he can lock down there support in those rust belt states he'll block the dems path in the electoral map.He's also the most powerful republican president ever with both houses of congress and the ability to stack the supreme court in order to protect his legacy.and the dems face a extremely difficult senate race in 2018 with dems up for re-election in deep red states.In other words he can implement his full agenda,yes even the wall.

IIRC correctly most if not all of the senior members of his party withdrew support for him?

They can hardly call him a republican president when they didn't even want him there?

12-11-2016 08:58AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

IIRC correctly most if not all of the senior members of his party withdrew support for him?

They can hardly call him a republican president when they didn't even want him there?

Yeah, suspect a few GOP supporters worried about what he might do to their own party. Big blow for Paul Ryan in 2020, and he'd be far more true to Republican ideals than Trump.

Advbrd · 12-11-2016 08:59AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

REMEMBER TO WEAR YOUR SAFETY PINS, FOLKS.
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/people-are-wearing-safety-pins-to-protest-trump-and-signal-that-theyre-a-safe-space/
Yeah... Afraid a roving band of "trumplets" are going to beat you up? Make sure to mark yourself out and make it rreeeeaaaaaaalllyy easy for them...

What utter sh!te. I'm getting my knob pierced.

Advbrd · 12-11-2016 09:09AM

So, if I get this right, he's going to reduce corporation tax to 15%, bringing all the American corporations back to boost employment. He's going to deport all illegal immigrants, essentially getting rid of a huge chunk of the workforce. He's going to tear up all trade agreements, pissing off the vast majority of trading partners. That leaves us with repatriated American companies with no workforce making products to sell to markets that no longer exist.
The reality is that he will be allowed to do very little that does not make sense and that includes the idiotic wall.

Advbrd · 12-11-2016 09:10AM

double post

Renegade Mechanic · 12-11-2016 09:12AM

It os kinda funny how Trump "rolling back on an election pledge" is being touted as a bad thing by people who just can't get over the fact an arsehole beat their """golden queen""" and will grasp at any straw to fire at him with..

Oddly, Breitfart covers it well...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/11/obmacare-obama-no-donald-trump-not-abandon-promise-repeal-obamacare/

Now I might not agree with it but Donald did say he'd make conciliatory attempts. Mabye this is one...?

bnt · 12-11-2016 09:12AM

As predicted, the Presidential Moderation of Trump has begun. In an interview last night, he said nice things about Clinton, and promised to keep some aspects of the Affordable Care Act such as not allowing insurers to refuse to insure people with pre-existing conditions (BBC).

Also - the way some people are talking, you'd think that the USA has never had a jackass as President before. I can only invite them to read about Lyndon B Johnson's blatant racism even as he was pushing civil rights legislation, or Woodrow Wilson's boosting the KKK, or Theodore Roosevelt's support for eugenics. Heck, even Lincoln seriously considered deporting all black people to the Caribbean or Africa. Kennedy was banging interns while high on painkillers for his back. Compared to some of these guys, you'd think that Nixon's only major failing was getting caught ... :eek:

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