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El Presidente Trump

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  • #1832
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    So surely it proved his point about the electoral college. You shouldn't win the presidency without the popular vote.

    These protest are the direct result of the snowflake generation coming out of the US universities when any difference of opinion was met with censorship and even disciplinary action. They just can't face life in the real world where not everyone panders to their sensitivities. They genuinely can't believe it didn't go their way for once.

    Indeed, look at the footage from all the major news networks of the Clinton headquarters during the count.

    Crowds of grown men and women in their 20s actually crying because she was losing. Then their fearless leader wouldn't even appear on stage once she conceded.


  • #1833
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,214 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Since coming to office in 2009, Obama's government has deported more than 2.5 million people—up 23% from the George W. Bush years. More shockingly, Obama is now on pace to deport more people than the sum of all 19 presidents who governed the United States from 1892-2000, according to government data.

    Don't remember any protests about this.

    There are protests. Loads of them.

    https://thinkprogress.org/immigrant-advocates-shut-down-busy-atlanta-intersection-in-protest-of-obamas-deportation-raids-bb0ce336f8f4

    Obama has a lot of things to be ashamed of from his 8 years in office.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #1834
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    IMO Trump's team played much cleaner in the election and the Clinton team played morally dirty.
    Like claiming an opponents father assassinated JFK? Come off it, Clinton comes out looking honest compared to the republican tricks. That's how bad they were. The democrats simply weren't as skilled at being underhanded.


  • #1835
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    his father Fred was an interesting character....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump


  • #1836
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Indeed, look at the footage from all the major news networks of the Clinton headquarters during the count.

    Crowds of grown men and women in their 20s actually crying because she was losing. Then their fearless leader wouldn't even appear on stage once she conceded.



    In fairness I can understand if she cried all night, but blaming Obama for not controlling Comey better is lol. I don't feel one ounce of sadness for her, her election team are a bunch of sleezeballs. In a way the Clintons have the same mindset of the people you describe.


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  • #1837
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Akrasia wrote: »
    There are protests. Loads of them.

    https://thinkprogress.org/immigrant-advocates-shut-down-busy-atlanta-intersection-in-protest-of-obamas-deportation-raids-bb0ce336f8f4

    Obama has a lot of things to be ashamed of from his 8 years in office.

    Look at the front page of that website.


  • #1838
    Walter H Price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    Hail to the Cheif , Cultural Marxism in the US is dead and you can can see the rest of the western world following suit by the end of 2017 you could have Trump in the US , Le Pen in France , Wilders in the Neterlands , Orban in Hugary, Putin in Russia , Merkel out of the Reichstag and May leading Britain out of the EU.

    Probably the only silverlining lining to the stupid libertard politics and the "Refugee" issue over the last few years is the rise of the new Right.

    Cannot wait to get to Trump tower in the new year


  • #1839
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Gael23 wrote: »
    At age70, is it reasonable to expect him to be a one term president?

    That is the only saving grace had either being elected.


  • #1840
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Will Trump put climate change to bed?


  • #1841
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    humanji wrote: »
    Like claiming an opponents father assassinated JFK? Come off it, Clinton comes out looking honest compared to the republican tricks. That's how bad they were. The democrats simply weren't as skilled at being underhanded.

    This election was extremely dirty from the Clintons side. If you read the wikileak and project veritas releases you'd see all the dishonest stuff they get up too. They openly colluded all campaign long with all the major news outlets and newspapers, bought fake polls and got CNN etc to publish them, planted stories about Trump to the media of him being linked to Russia, paid mentally ill people to start fights at rallies etc. Trump's team look classy in comparison.


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  • #1842
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    all americans should be given full health insurance, period! america needs to stop invading countries, this would probably prevent a large portion of their citizens from becoming mentally ill in the first place.

    How do you think America makes it's money and keeps people in jobs (military) ?

    There are so many people, the big boys are not too worried about their mental health - give them a gun , a six pack of freedom and a little flag and they will be happy shooting them commi's , muslims , socialists, liberals............;)


  • #1843
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Walter H Price wrote: »
    Hail to the Cheif , Cultural Marxism in the US is dead and you can can see the rest of the western world following suit by the end of 2017 you could have Trump in the US , Le Pen in France , Wilders in the Neterlands , Orban in Hugary, Putin in Russia , Merkel out of the Reichstag and May leading Britain out of the EU.

    Probably the only silverlining lining to the stupid libertard politics and the "Refugee" issue over the last few years is the rise of the new Right.

    Out of curiosity, how do you think this rise of the new Right is going to benefit ordinary people like you and me?


  • #1844
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    This election was extremely dirty from the Clintons side. If you read the wikileak and project veritas releases you'd see all the dishonest stuff they get up too. They openly colluded all campaign long with all the major news outlets and newspapers, bought fake polls and got CNN etc to publish them, planted stories about Trump to the media of him being linked to Russia, paid mentally ill people to start fights at rallies etc. Trump's team look classy in comparison.
    Most of that is even debatable, but assuming it's true (sure who'd put it past her?), that's still nothing compared to the republicans. They actually rigged the election. They colluded with the FBI. Jesus, they tried to pretend Clinton was a baby eating devil-worshipper. What the dems did was nothing compared to all that.


  • #1845
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, how do you think this rise of the new Right is going to benefit ordinary people like you and me?

    Bock economic immigration and curb runaway welfare?


  • #1846
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,214 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Look at the front page of that website.

    So what? The protest happened, and many others that you could easily find if you wanted to look. People protest against Obama for doing terrible things. People protest against his drone strikes, The TPP, the keystone pipeline, his deportations, his failure to close Guantanamo Bay etc

    Trump is all the worst parts of Obama's presidency with very little hope of any redeeming elements.

    Global warming and environmental regulation alone is enough to drive right thinking people to despair.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #1847
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    marklazarcovic wrote: »
    i smell an assassination

    No need. He will be the oldest president ever at first swearing in. Reagan was older at his second inauguration but Trump at 70 will be the oldest taking the oath for the first time.

    Maybe mother nature will take her course.

    Just saying.


  • #1848
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    Bock economic immigration and curb runaway welfare?

    So it will stop my freedom of movement and make it harder for my family to survive if I lose my job. That sounds great. How else?


  • #1849
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Walter H Price wrote: »
    Hail to the Cheif , Cultural Marxism in the US is dead and you can can see the rest of the western world following suit by the end of 2017 you could have Trump in the US , Le Pen in France , Wilders in the Neterlands , Orban in Hugary, Putin in Russia , Merkel out of the Reichstag and May leading Britain out of the EU.

    Probably the only silverlining lining to the stupid libertard politics and the "Refugee" issue over the last few years is the rise of the new Right.

    Cannot wait to get to Trump tower in the new year

    People like this are outright rejoicing at the rise of fascism on a global scale and some of you wonder why Americans, (particularly minorities) are genuinely frightened and in tears about this result?


  • #1850
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    At least we may see an All Ireland affair next time round - OMalley v Ryan


  • #1851
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Akrasia wrote: »
    right thinking people
    There's a phrase that makes my teeth itch.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #1852
    Walter H Price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, how do you think this rise of the new Right is going to benefit ordinary people like you and me?

    In the states Trump is already speaking about lower Tax's , removal of Obama care , reductions in welfare , Deportation of illegal immigrants.

    LePen and Wilders the same have been very stong on removing welfare for immigrants and deportations , i dont know if you've been to fance lately but i was and there are actual mini refugee camps all over Paris groups of Sub Saharans , Middle Eastern's , Roma Gypsys living on the streets , I'm sure there deportation would be welcomed by alot of french people giving the crime they bring and the general annoyance of being stopped or harassed every 15 seconds for change.

    An end to the overly PC cultural can only be a good thing , I'm sure wealth will be created probibly focused on the middle classes but I'm ok with that , less government , less welfare , lower tax , fewer immigrants all good in my book.


  • #1853
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    So it will stop my freedom of movement and make it harder for my family to survive if I lose my job. That sounds great. How else?

    I don't think you understand the difference between necessary welfare and runaway welfare. Nobody dies in this country because they lose their job. Essentially we pay too much to support those that won't work, those than want to but can't work are welcome to my tax money.

    And you can leave anytime you like. Maybe got to Canada like the rest of them.


  • #1854
    Walter H Price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    I don't think you understand the difference between necessary welfare and runaway welfare. Nobody dies in this country because they lose their job. Essentially we pay too much to support those that won't work, those than want to but can't work are welcome to my tax money.

    Nail on the head ... what you receive in welfare should be based on previous contribution on a reducing scale. with the exception of those with actual diabilitys.

    If you have never worked you should only be entitle to a basic basic existence food stamps or something. with employers incentivised to hire Irish staff over forighn workers in order to ensure a ready supply of low skill work.


  • #1855
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    So it will stop my freedom of movement and make it harder for my family to survive if I lose my job. That sounds great. How else?

    No one is stopping your freedom of movement if you do it legally.


  • #1856
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    No one is stopping your freedom of movement if you do it legally.

    He never made that distinction in his original post.


  • #1857
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    B0jangles wrote: »
    People like this are outright rejoicing at the rise of fascism on a global scale and some of you wonder why Americans, (particularly minorities) are genuinely frightened and in tears about this result?
    One of fascism's markers is its tendency to make one large group feel good by blaming all the world's ills on another, smaller group.


  • #1858
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Christy42 wrote: »
    It is horrific. Unsure about racism as it is about politics but since they probably wouldn't beat up a black man for voting Trump it is indeed racist and very certainly horrific.


    However "this is what real Racism is"?

    Where was all the fake racism? Anything that happens against black people? Calling Mexicans rapists was obviously fake racism right.

    You had a good point but fell into the same trap plenty on the looney left do. Just because there is racism vs. White people is no reason to deny racism against others.

    All things told if I was in the states I would definitely rather be a white straight male than anything else.

    Chances of that video making National News?

    The only saving grace in life it that most of those thugs probably possess trainers that they are wearing as the most valuable possession that they own, shall be dead before they are 40 , and will never amount to much.

    I hope their skulls meet a pavement real soon. Can not even fight the man one on one. Credit to him ,it took a lot to put him down. Chances of either of these animals attacking another if they were on their own? Zero. Stupid woman cheering them on is probably on food stamps. Surprised that she could even spell "Trump"


  • #1859
    Walter H Price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    robindch wrote: »
    One of fascism's markers is its tendency to make one large group feel good by blaming all the world's ills on another, smaller group.

    As opposed to the what weve experinenced for the last few years where herosexual white people perticularly men have been blamed for all the worlds ills.


  • #1860
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Plenty of gay people voted against gay marriage. I don't get it. Just don't get married. However it happened here and it happened in the states.

    Want to point out where all white men where insulted?

    Lets try this one as exhibit A
    vetinari wrote: »
    It's quite valid to attack his supporters. It's the lack of challenging his supporters that's helped cause this. A lot of working class white men who are annoyed that the country is not as white as it used to be. They try to dress that up as nostalgia but it's clear what they mean. They don't expect Trump to bring back manufacturing jobs, no president can, they just want to feel like the white men are on top again.


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  • #1861
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Someone said of the 'protests' against the election result: We are raising a generation of emotional hemophiliacs.
    I have to agree.


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