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El Presidente Trump

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  • #1622
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can't wait to see how he balances all these tax cuts with his massive infrastructure spending proposals or how he will get Mexico to pay for his ludicrous wall. Prepare for a massive ballooning budget deficit.

    honestly don't see an actual physical wall being built at this stage. say it will just be a hardened border and probably a fence that will actually be patrolled


  • #1623
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can't wait to see how he balances all these tax cuts with his massive infrastructure spending proposals or how he will get Mexico to pay for his ludicrous wall. Prepare for a massive ballooning budget deficit.

    There is a legitimate reasoning behind getting Mexico to build the wall


    There are couple million Mexicans in america illegal and all they have to do is say build it....or well begin aggressively deporting them


    It would probably work out cheaper for them to so so


  • #1624
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Fact: more US voters voted for Clinton than voted for Trump. Trump only won because of the distortion of that democratic choice that is the Electoral College. Supposedly "unpopular" Hillary Clinton won more of the popular vote than did Donald Trump. /end fact.

    It does not matter in any shape or form now, trump got the presidency so it's done.


  • #1625
    mickmackey1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Good to see those celeb a-holes being silenced, hopefully we'll be spared the benefit of their expertise for a while.


  • #1626
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    There is a legitimate reasoning behind getting Mexico to build the wall


    There are couple million Mexicans in america illegal and all they have to do is say build it....or well begin aggressively deporting them


    It would probably work out cheaper for them to so so

    Aggressive deportations? That'll be fun.


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  • #1627
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    That is a coincidence, I was just thinking of this earlier today, that he might need some serious extra protection as the amount of weirdo's out there now full of hate could be capable of an assassination attempt. Poor fuddled uneducated idiots that would be a threat to him and democracy. I think the man-haters feminists are the main threat. Some nut-balls out there indeed.

    I'm not comparing Trump to Mussolini but your comment brought this woman to mind

    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2014/0612/647669-documentary-irishwoman-shot-mussolini-violet-gibson/


  • #1628
    Donal55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Aggressive deportations? That'll be fun.

    Don't the Aussies do the same.


  • #1629
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Aggressive deportations? That'll be fun.

    Tbh....I can see him being more popular with those what voted for him if it did come to this

    The Mexican economy can ill afford several more million into it at the min......it's not unreasonable to expect some deal to be done between bother countries in realton to the wall









    Either way....what a strange strange world to be in that trump made it to the finishing line and won

    Many in His own party didn't even like him


  • #1630
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,962 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Depp wrote: »
    hopefully he will be pressured into getting something done, anyone who serves in the military should be given full health insurance disabled or not...and not the va bs either access to proper hospitals and treatments especially on the mental health side of things...the suicide rates in the military are a stain on the usa and nothing is being done about it

    all americans should be given full health insurance, period! america needs to stop invading countries, this would probably prevent a large portion of their citizens from becoming mentally ill in the first place.


  • #1631
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Mister Vain wrote: »
    Well at least Trump is not a shape shifting reptile.

    You were saying?

    :D

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bwmqdCHY90g/hqdefault.jpg


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  • #1632
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    It's far too early to even say that. It's quite possible he will follow through on his promises, give it time.

    He made good promises as well as suspect remarks. I'd like to see if he'll follow through on those. Giving him a chance isn't such a big ask.


  • #1633
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,962 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Widdershins wrote: »
    I'm not comparing Trump to Mussolini but your comment brought this woman to mind

    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2014/0612/647669-documentary-irishwoman-shot-mussolini-violet-gibson/

    yanis varoufakis also compared him to Mussolini


  • #1634
    Bonaparted
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭Bonaparted


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Aggressive deportations? That'll be fun.

    That's how deportations generally are.


  • #1635
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    yanis varoufakis also compared him to Mussolini

    Hitler is the usual choice. It's an insult to everyone who lived through a dictatorship though. I mean, really.
    People, keep the criticism proportional instead of going for shock value.


  • #1636
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can't wait to see how he balances all these tax cuts with his massive infrastructure spending proposals or how he will get Mexico to pay for his ludicrous wall. Prepare for a massive ballooning budget deficit.

    The wall is never going to get built. I know Trump voters in the USA and they know that. They are expecting a massive overhaul of the immigration system and they hope that people with criminal records who are illegal residents in the USA are sent back to the country of origin. That's their wall.


  • #1637
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,962 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Widdershins wrote: »
    Hitler is the usual choice. It's an insult to everyone who lived through a dictatorship though. I mean, really.
    People, keep the criticism proportional instead of going for shock value.

    i dont know Mussolini's rhetoric at all but i know varoufakis's work reasonably well and i dont think he d say that just for a shock factor. hes a very well read man


  • #1638
    Donal55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Berserker wrote: »
    The wall is never going to get built. I know Trump voters in the USA and they know that. They are expecting a massive overhaul of the immigration system and they hope that people with criminal records who are illegal residents in the USA are sent back to the country of origin. That's their wall.

    Id say a lot of people would be happy with that sort of arrangement.


  • #1639
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Where was the liberal outcry when it was revealed that the Obama admin deported more illegal immigrants in 6 years than even George Dubya did in 8?
    Between 2009 and 2014, 2.4 million people were deported from the U.S., according to a Pew Research data analysis released Wednesday. Under the previous Bush administration, about 2 million people were deported between 2001 and 2008.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-deported-record-number-immigrants-trump-claim-article-1.2774180


  • #1640
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,962 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Donal55 wrote: »
    Id say a lot of people would be happy with that sort of arrangement.

    id like to think thats whats gonna happen, physical walls really dont work


  • #1641
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    i dont know Mussolini's rhetoric at all but i know varoufakis's work reasonably well and i dont think he d say that just for a shock factor. hes a very well read man

    Yet he compares a newly elected president to a dictator who committed genocide. Even if you had the lowest possible opinion of Trump, it's a bit premature to put it mildly.

    *had to edit as that sounded weird


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  • #1642
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,572 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    TheOven wrote: »
    Trump doesnt hate the LGBTQ community, he doesn't care what happens to them. He picked Pence who thinks it is ok to abuse them until they pretend to be straight and his supreme court picks are the religious zealots wet dream. There is no way having the GOP in charge will be good for them.

    You might be surprised .


  • #1643
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,962 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Widdershins wrote: »
    Yet he compares a newly elected president to a dictator who committed genocide. Even if you had the lowest possible opinion of Trump, it's a bit premature to put it mildly.

    *had to edit as that sounded weird

    ah no i think varoufakis ment trumps rhetoric was similar to Mussolini's in the lead up to his leadership. id have to do some looking into Mussolini to confirm though. i have a lot of respect for varoufakis so hes probably right.


  • #1644
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,934 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    There is a legitimate reasoning behind getting Mexico to build the wall


    There are couple million Mexicans in america illegal and all they have to do is say build it....or well begin aggressively deporting them


    It would probably work out cheaper for them to so so

    Some sound logic there alright


  • #1645
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    In hindsight I think they should have went Sanders instead of 'one of their own'

    The people wanted something different to the traditional Democrat or Republican candidate.

    Trump proved it.
    lawlolawl wrote: »
    I feel really bad for Bernie Sanders. He would probably have won if they had ran him instead of Hillary, he'll be too old next time.

    Wall Street wouldn't have approved it but I think he might have been able to run as an Independent (not sure) but chose not to for the sake of the party that's shafted its electorate.


  • #1646
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    all americans should be given full health insurance, period! america needs to stop invading countries, this would probably prevent a large portion of their citizens from becoming mentally ill in the first place.

    Have you ever lived in the USA? Many middle and upper class Americans balk at the thought of having to pay for healthcare for someone who doesn't or won't work. You are trying to compare the USA to Europe and they are very different.


  • #1647
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    i dont know Mussolini's rhetoric at all but i know varoufakis's work reasonably well and i dont think he d say that just for a shock factor. hes a very well read man

    you can be as well read as you like it still doesn't give you carte blanche to trivialize one of the biggest genocides in living history


  • #1648
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Wall Street wouldn't have approved it but I think he might have been able to run as an Independent (not sure) but chose not to for the sake of the party that's shafted its electorate.

    actually by the time the dem party nomination had been decided the closing date for independent entries had closed...was also going to be the case were ted cruz to win the gop nomination which thankfully didnt come to pass! ted cruz with a full republican majority in both houses, now there is a dangerous prospect!


  • #1649
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    osarusan wrote: »
    For that matter, has the idea of adding up all the state percentages for each candidate and then dividing that total by 51 to reach an 'overall average percentage' ever been considered?
    Hmm. How would that account for differences in population, then? You'd have California counting the same as Alaska, no? Or have I misunderstood you?


  • #1650
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ah no i think varoufakis ment trumps rhetoric was similar to Mussolini's in the lead up to his leadership. id have to do some looking into Mussolini to confirm though. i have a lot of respect for varoufakis so hes probably right.

    The basic template for all politicians is the same, they promise to improve various aspects of life their target audience is concerned about. Jobs is a huge one for Trump, and more pertinently in this instance, immigration, but drawing a parallel between the two is extreme.Why else make the comparison if not to imply something sinister and ominous. It's hardly a sound basis for making a prediction of Trump's future actions and comparing him to a dictator. He might be well read but that doesn't mean he's objective or that he's not averse to furthering his own agenda. Al-Baghdadi, ISIS founder, was well-read!


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  • #1651
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Depp wrote: »
    actually by the time the dem party nomination had been decided the closing date for independent entries had closed...was also going to be the case were ted cruz to win the gop nomination which thankfully didnt come to pass!

    Oh, I didn't know that. Very convenient for the DNC.


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