2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

FBI was compromised with her as SOS. I think the foundation will cause her to get charged eventually, FBI investigations never "close" they're always ongoing. Money laundering is a big no no. I doubt Trump would will do anything it would give him bad press and he might want to keep relations clean citing victory as good enough. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Genuine question, how much do you honestly think Donald "make America great again" Trump can fulfill any small percentages of the promises he made during this campaign.
All politicians "manipulate" voters with wishy washy soundbites but his campaign win is completely predicated on the extreme volume of same.

Here are some:

. ‘Build a wall’ — and make Mexico pay for it

. Temporarily ban Muslims from entering the United States

- ‘Bring manufacturing (jobs) back’

. Impose tariffs on goods made in China and Mexico

. Renegotiate or withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership

. Full repeal of Obamacare’ and replace it with a market-based alternative

. Renegotiate the Iran deal

. Leave Social Security as is

. Cut taxes

. ‘Bomb’ and/or ‘take the oil’ from ISIS

etc, etc

I genuinely dont think any of these promises will be fulfilled to any satisfactory level and he wont have ANY impact on bloody walls, muslims or Mexican immigrants.

You spoke about HC manipulating certain disadvantaged demographics. Trump's win is completely based on this manipulation.

In fact from what I am reading from a lot of your posts he has completely manipulated you on a lot of issues.


This is not a pro HC post, I think she is equally as detestable in her own way but she would have ambition,intellect, support and contacts to implement a lot of her promises.

Trumps presidency was a chance to feed his ego, I doubt even him thought it possible to win the Republican campaign, let alone the Presidency, Its a case of now the hard work is done, he can go on holiday for 4 years.
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The Talking Bread wrote: »

Genuine question, how much do you honestly think Donald "make America great again" Trump can fulfill any small percentages of the promises he made during this campaign.
All politicians "manipulate" voters with wishy washy soundbites but his campaign win is completely predicated on the extreme volume of same.

Here are some:

. ‘Build a wall’ — and make Mexico pay for it

. Temporarily ban Muslims from entering the United States

- ‘Bring manufacturing (jobs) back’

. Impose tariffs on goods made in China and Mexico

. Renegotiate or withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership

. Full repeal of Obamacare’ and replace it with a market-based alternative

. Renegotiate the Iran deal

. Leave Social Security as is

. Cut taxes

. ‘Bomb’ and/or ‘take the oil’ from ISIS

etc, etc

I genuinely dont think any of these promises will be fulfilled to any satisfactory level and he wont have ANY impact on bloody walls, muslims or Mexican immigrants.

You spoke about HC manipulating certain disadvantaged demographics. Trump's win is completely based on this manipulation.

In fact from what I am reading from a lot of your posts he has completely manipulated you on a lot of issues.


This is not a pro HC post, I think she is equally as detestable in her own way but she would have ambition,intellect, support and contacts to implement a lot of her promises.

Trumps presidency was a chance to feed his ego, I doubt even him thought it possible to win the Republican campaign, let alone the Presidency, Its a case of now the hard work is done, he can go on holiday for 4 years.
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I don't feel like I'm manipulated by Trump, I find Hillary Clinton and her team repulsive.

I agree with you about his policies, he hasn't really outlined specifics, any detail at all really. It's too early to say but with an all Republican Government it will really help him.

I think you need ego to be a leader, he chewed up and spat out those others in the primaries like it was nothing

Look at his old old interviews on Oprah etc, he's been spouting some of the same Policies for 20 years. He was much calmer back then though

seamus wrote: »

But Trump is part of the establishment.

He is now.

I'm flabbergasted by it and of course today it's super easy for everyone in the media can see exactly why it happened even though they didn't have a clue.

The only thing that makes sense to me though is...

Obama was change, he was a movement. But given the state of things he inherited and his fairly social agenda the change couldn't come fast enough for the middle class who've things have essentially been getting worse for since Bush...and probably long before.

So Trump became the movement. No one thought he was playing the blue collar guy really but he was talking to them. Everyone knew he was a billionaire but he said he'd shake it all up. Michael Moore had a point when he spoke of Trump going to Michigan or maybe Pittsburg (not sure which) and he said he'd tax foreign imports 30%. I'm not sure many believed it but he was talking about things like that and he came across as perhaps crazy enough to do it.

On Hillary's side, you had the prospect of slight tweaks to a system that wasn't working for them anyway.

The democrats had a movement in Sanders but ignored it in favour of the insider because it was her turn.

And hilariously, months ago when people were speaking of the republican nomination process and how it was vulnerable to the loons taking it over, it was exactly this that won the republicians this victory and lost it for the dems.

I don't hold out much hope for it. Short terms gains for longer term problems but the people have spoken.

I really really hope he stops the attacks and the divisiveness now though. He has his majority, he can do whatever he wants but he can do it without the frenzied anger now that te election is won.