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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Brian? wrote: »
    No it's not. Everything that's happening in the swing states is within the margin of error for the polls.

    How many times does need to be explained.


    How can you say that when polls yesterday had a 86% plus chance of Clinton to win.
    Those polls are wrong or people polled lied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Well you reap what you sow! I genuinely am baffled at this!! People will say in hindsight "I called it". But there was no rationale to this sort of response.

    Great tv, but frightening also!

    I fear the Americans will get more than they have bargained for with Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Brian? wrote: »
    No it's not. Everything that's happening in the swing states is within the margin of error for the polls.

    How many times does need to be explained.

    I had mentioned the latent Trump vote earlier.

    So is it MOE/Bradley effect? My money is on a combination of both


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    BBC's Emily Maitliss:
    99% of votes in in Florida and trump is 2 points ahead. Not won yet - but That's a bigger gap than Obama won it with last time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    How can you say that when polls yesterday had a 86% plus chance of Clinton to win.
    Those polls are wrong or people polled lied.

    A: they had Hillary below 70% as their final prediction.
    B: 14 > 0.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    If you thought Hillary was good value at Evens a while ago, you'll love the 11/4 that's now available....

    Not really, the 11/4 is a fair reflection of the fact she is now unlikely to come up. So no value at all. I wouldnt even take 10/1/ Everything has changed the last 20 minutes since results are flying in. At the time I wrote that post, I would still have had HC as favourite personally. Can go only by facts in front of me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    How can you say that when polls yesterday had a 86% plus chance of Clinton to win.
    Those polls are wrong or people polled lied.

    Andrew Neil saying pretty much the same thing now on BBC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    CNN CAN'T SAY IT
    But Trump has Florida in next 15 mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Hillary is a horrible candidate, and anyone but Trump, I could understand.

    But she's a career politician and would have been safer for women, gays and foreigners. Trump is just a horrific man ...... But Hillary is the warmonger?

    No she is not safer for anyone.
    He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
    And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭vetinari


    What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    NBC project Ohio for Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Oh God this is happening isn't it. I'm barely able to understand what's happening here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    As much as I detest Trump, at least we get to see Hillary's response. She thought she had it wrapped up and now her only legacy is her crookedness, standing by a serial adulter, failing in elections and losing to the most detestable candidate arguably in Presidential Campaign latter stage history.

    Queen Hillary!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,560 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Don't really post in here ever but I'm glued to this election, it's gripping stuff. Not sure what the policy on betting talk is but Trump to win Pennsylvania at 11/4 was the value bet of the night for me. The forecasts are all 50/50 which should have it around 5/6 for each candidate so I couldn't resist a small go at that one.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    No she is not safer for anyone.
    He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
    And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.

    Because I haven't engaged in this topic on here before tonight, I genuinely can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic. Genuinely.

    But if your not....I don't know....I really don't. I evidently don't live in the world I thought I did....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,728 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    I bet whoever on Hillary's campaign organised all those high profile millionaire celebrity endorsements in the last 48 hours is kicking themselves now. A really, really stupid move. Trump got serious momentum in the closing 48 hours of the campaign. Those endorsements just played right into Trump's hands - enforced the idea that Hillary is just a shill for the wealthy establishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    vetinari wrote: »
    What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president

    It would have been a bigger disaster with Hillary and her blood thirst for war.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    ...he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media...

    Yeah, those evil bastards keep reporting the actual words he says. Despicable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    Trump is only in this for his ego. If he wins it will be his running mate Pence in control of everything imo: a guy who is sceptical about evolution, and thinks climate change is a hoax, and who knows what else.

    Rep have the House, they will probably keep the Senate, if Trump wins, it makes his 4 years easier than if Clinton was there. And the big divide that Obama has built between DEMs and REP, It think trump will find the support he needs in Washington.

    I'm not sure Trump will take a back seat on this. He has always be politically vocal.

    The concern for the world is International relations. Obama was terrible, like really terrible. USA has weakened significantly. Europe needs a Strong USA. Leaders of the free world without a military are not leaders, but just by standers.

    No global policy works without USA.
    UN, G7, G20, NATO, NAFTA, WTO all dependent on USA.

    My opinion is that Clinton will continue where Obama left off. Not engaging with Russia. No influence on Russia.

    People fear WW3, but wars are more likely when there is no dominate player to dissuade smaller states from pursuing aggression.


    Climate change is a HOAX :) You mean anthropological climate change? Still unproven :D But lets pay green tax till they figure it out. Cancer, aids ect.. can wait in line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Trump in the debates was a joke. Just shows how much people hate Clinton.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,542 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    No she is not safer for anyone.
    He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
    And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.

    Ah you are having a laugh surely ? he's a horrible person regardless of whether he was running for president or not. He's a narcissistic asshole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    vetinari wrote: »
    What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president

    With a homophobic vice to boot.

    And the anti science anti any sort of social progress party will end up with the Senate, house and presidency the way things are going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I bet whoever on Hillary's campaign organised all those high profile millionaire celebrity endorsements in the last 48 hours is kicking themselves now. A really, really stupid move. Trump got serious momentum in the closing 48 hours of the campaign. Those endorsements just played right into Trump's hands - enforced the idea that Hillary is just a shill for the wealthy establishment.

    I agree and I said that too the other night and some here thought I was wrong.

    It just said 'out of touch'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Ah you are having a laugh surely ? he's a horrible person regardless of whether he was running for president or not. He's a narcissistic asshole.

    He is a troll. Don't entertain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    vetinari wrote: »
    What a disaster, we're ending up with a racist sexual predator as president

    Apart from the racist part, you could have been talking about Bill Clinton there....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Because I haven't engaged in this topic on here before tonight, I genuinely can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic. Genuinely.

    But if your not....I don't know....I really don't. I evidently don't live in the world I thought I did....

    It's ok, I know it's a difficult thing to come to grips with the fact that others think differently than you. Outside the Hillary echo chamber, things are very different. Much better in fact! Should he win tonight, Trump is going to win you over in time , I promise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    As much as I detest Trump, at least we get to see Hillary's response. She thought she had it wrapped up and now her only legacy is her crookedness, standing by a serial adulter, failing in elections and losing to the most detestable candidate arguably in Presidential Campaign latter stage history.

    Queen Hillary!

    One of the most disgusting things about this is the horrible way people think her staying with him was a huge negative. That you list that says a heap about you.

    Do you think everyone that was cheated on deserves that to be labeled as a negative?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    103 electoral votes away from president for Trump.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Christy42 wrote: »
    With a homophobic vice to boot.

    And the anti science anti any sort of social progress party will end up with the Senate, house and presidency the way things are going.

    This is it. Not just Trump but full power Trump. Say goodbye to pro-choice clinics, goodbye to not judging people by their race, goodbye to science and hello to religious beliefs over actual scientific facts.

    And they will do so knowing they have the backing of the majority of people. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    No she is not safer for anyone.
    He is anything but "horrific"--he is a beautiful person much maligned by a vicious media, which is why so many people believe these lies.
    And Hillary IS a warmonger. Trump wants peace.

    Trump a beautiful person? Lolz
    Vicious media- the same media trump used to his benefit?. The same media that report exactly what trump says.


    I believe you believe trump. Though it's quite sad. He isn't a very good liar at all.


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