Sean O'Rourke Today Show

padd b1975 · 26-10-2016 09:38AM

Very poor debate being facilitated by Keelin here.

All very shrill and self-important.

buried · 26-10-2016 09:48AM

Jayzus, during that I was outside and hearing it vaugely, I thought some cats were having a fight inside my house

dulpit · 26-10-2016 04:59PM

Keelin's hosting this week?

Right2Write · 27-10-2016 09:13AM

Please Keelin, will you do your job properly and ask the obvious question of Deirdre. If she is so committed to equal pay for her younger teaching colleagues, why doesn't well paid Deirdre take a pay cut and let her colleagues have a pay rise. Simple obvious question.

PeterTheNinth · 27-10-2016 09:25AM

Right2Write wrote: »

Please Keelin, will you do your job properly and ask the obvious question of Deirdre. If she is so committed to equal pay for her younger teaching colleagues, why doesn't well paid Deirdre take a pay cut and let her colleagues have a pay rise. Simple obvious question.

Same I heard that other ASTI goon this morning. "The Minister yesterday didnt answer the question yesterday whether he agreed with equal pay for equal work, did he?"... Yeah and YE VOTED for that inequality to save your own pay and conditions.

I really dont know why they are given so much airtime. Certainly cover the strike but dont give them so much time for their propaganda.

realdanbreen · 27-10-2016 10:31AM

Absolutely horrific account of what ISIS are doing to women, sometimes you wonder if we do actually need a headcase like Trump to clear this up.

TheHomeService · 27-10-2016 10:40AM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Same I heard that other ASTI goon this morning. "The Minister yesterday didnt answer the question yesterday whether he agreed with equal pay for equal work, did he?"... Yeah and YE VOTED for that inequality to save your own pay and conditions.

I really dont know why they are given so much airtime. Certainly cover the strike but dont give them so much time for their propaganda.

They love the "equal pay for equal work" mantra, do ASTI. Funny how they are happy to accept increments in the PS though, which runs totally counter to their espoused mantra.

Callan57 · 27-10-2016 11:03AM

realdanbreen wrote: »

Absolutely horrific account of what ISIS are doing to women, sometimes you wonder if we do actually need a headcase like Trump to clear this up.

That would be funny if it wasn't so horrific

PeterTheNinth · 28-10-2016 10:17AM

Mike had no problems talking to Cape Canaveral, but as usual problems trying to get communications established with RTE.

buried · 28-10-2016 10:27AM

extraordinary extraordinary extraordinary extraordianry

Right2Write · 02-11-2016 10:44AM

Seán nailing this waffling Professor Russell on her report on early childcare. What a waste of space & expense this report seems - no firm conclusions and sure whatever you want will probably do. But the average parent out there could have said the same, that children are basically flexible and manage varied circumstances.

snubbleste · 03-11-2016 10:58AM

16 kids aged 2 months to 21, husband in prison and driving with no insurance..and she is sent to prison for not paying €250 no insurance fine
I'm only getting €548pw from de dole

The Black Oil · 04-11-2016 09:59AM

Had to turn off the radio on hearing that. ^^

PeterTheNinth · 04-11-2016 10:08AM

More airtime for whingebag union leaders. Listen if your members dont like the f**king job, do something else.

Lady Chatterton · 04-11-2016 10:09AM

snubbleste wrote: »

16 kids aged 2 months to 21, husband in prison and driving with no insurance..and she is sent to prison for not paying €250 no insurance fine
I'm only getting €548pw from de dole

As Twink would say, it's time he zipped up his mickey.

Donal55 · 04-11-2016 10:11AM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

More airtime for whingebag union leaders. Listen if your members dont like the f**king job, do something else.

Govt have broken the deal. Not the unions inside the tent. This was always going to happen if the GRA/AGSI deal was done.

dulpit · 04-11-2016 10:42AM

snubbleste wrote: »

16 kids aged 2 months to 21, husband in prison and driving with no insurance..and she is sent to prison for not paying €250 no insurance fine
I'm only getting €548pw from de dole

They really need to be able to attach payment orders against social welfare if you have outstanding fines. That'll make people cop on an awful lot quicker than a half day trip to the local prison...

Harry Angstrom · 04-11-2016 11:55AM

Have to laugh at Alan Kelly talking about the "madness" of Brexit, considering this gobdaw presided over the complete and utter fiasco that is Irish Water.

serfboard · 04-11-2016 01:42PM

dulpit wrote: »

They really need to be able to attach payment orders against social welfare if you have outstanding fines. That'll make people cop on an awful lot quicker than a half day trip to the local prison...

It'd also be far less costly to the state.

I thought they were supposed to be doing this anyway in relation to fines - i.e. adding attachments to wages or SW? I seem to remember this being discussed in particular in relation to Mick Wallace ...

dulpit · 04-11-2016 02:23PM

serfboard wrote: »

It'd also be far less costly to the state.

I thought they were supposed to be doing this anyway in relation to fines - i.e. adding attachments to wages or SW? I seem to remember this being discussed in particular in relation to Mick Wallace ...

They can attach to wages, but not social welfare, because of reasons :mad:

The Dept of Social Welfare were in touch with Paddy O'Gorman (I think that's who he said) to say they are going to review this next year though.

hullaballoo · 07-11-2016 11:23PM

You can attach SW payments.

ETA: it's done by way of a garnishee order. It isn't very common. There is the Civil Debt (Procedures) Act 2015 that is supposed to provide easier ways of attaching pay or SW but it hasn't been commenced yet, meaning it's unlikely to be commenced.

sligojoek · 08-11-2016 11:00AM

Sean, we don't care about your summer holidays. Let the man make his point.

Brendan Bendar · 08-11-2016 11:38AM

sligojoek wrote: »

Sean, we don't care about your summer holidays. Let the man make his point.

How long do you expect Sean to wait, guy makes Bob Schmoo look like Dave Fanning.

Cmon!

sligojoek · 08-11-2016 11:40AM

He was a bit slow alright.

Brendan Bendar · 08-11-2016 11:45AM

sligojoek wrote: »

He was a bit slow alright.

Understatement of the year there, long pauses, sighing, different cadence in voice, I thought the phone line was gone

08-11-2016 03:10PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

You can attach SW payments.

ETA: it's done by way of a garnishee order. It isn't very common. There is the Civil Debt (Procedures) Act 2015 that is supposed to provide easier ways of attaching pay or SW but it hasn't been commenced yet, meaning it's unlikely to be commenced.

Why do you think it's unlikely to be commenced?

It wouldn't be electorally unpopular, since people who commit ordinary criminal or regulatory offences don't tend to garner voter sympathy. And the same Fine Gael Minister who oversaw the latter stages of the act's passage through the Oireachtas is still in office, and is responsible for the commencement.

I don't understand why such a common-sense piece of legislation hasn't yet taken effect, nor can I imagine any law-abiding person who would seriously oppose it.

hullaballoo · 08-11-2016 03:56PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why do you think it's unlikely to be commenced?

It wouldn't be electorally unpopular, since people who commit ordinary criminal or regulatory offences don't tend to garner voter sympathy. And the same Fine Gael Minister who oversaw the latter stages of the act's passage through the Oireachtas is still in office, and is responsible for the commencement.

I don't understand why such a common-sense piece of legislation hasn't yet taken effect, nor can I imagine any law-abiding person who would seriously oppose it.

You and I evidently have a totally different perception of Irish society if you think that it would be politically popular to introduce legislation that allows the State or other corporate bodies to deduct the pay of private individuals at source.

These private individuals whose pay will be deducted at source have no other means of satisfying the claim against them, which suggests to me that the pay out of which the deductions are to be taken isn't going to be significant...

08-11-2016 04:04PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

You and I evidently have a totally different perception of Irish society if you think that it would be politically popular to introduce legislation that allows the State or other corporate bodies to deduct the pay of private individuals at source.

Ah now, these are the type of people who refuse to pay fines.

We're not just talking the average person who gets a speeding ticket or overstays in a parking space. We're talking here about people who would rather go to jail than pay a fine, the type of people who are often the courts' most regular customers.

The Act had very little political or public opposition, and in fact was reported on rather sympathetically, having been seen as a more humane and prudent piece of legislation than what the current laws provide for.

hullaballoo · 08-11-2016 04:15PM

Freemen and the likes? The hordes of water protestors? Even though these are in the minority, they are almost expert in publicity stunts. The majority of sensible people ignore them and or see them for what they are but the majority of total idiots look on them as societal heroes.

You are admirably giving the overall majority the benefit of the doubt but I am afraid I am very cynical in that regard.

Right2Write · 08-11-2016 04:18PM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Have to laugh at Alan Kelly talking about the "madness" of Brexit, considering this gobdaw presided over the complete and utter fiasco that is Irish Water.

In fairness to Kelly, he got a poisoned chalice from the obnoxious Phil Hogan. The main mistake that Kelly made was not to be firmer with consequences for non payers. He thought he'd moderate the situation and keep a few votes but instead all he invited was other TDs to laugh in his face and tell people not to pay. And the soft position didn't work.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I don't understand why such a common-sense piece of legislation hasn't yet taken effect, nor can I imagine any law-abiding person who would seriously oppose it.

Are you joking? I agree with the principle but you'd have all the usual suspects in the AAA/ PAP/ Socialist Party/ Sinn Féin giving out stink and organising street protests.

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